9900k: improved silicon lottery?

[Melodist]

Howdy there,

 

Has the 9900k's silicon lottery improved, buying the processor nowadays?

[Princess Luna]

What do you mean?

 

if anything it should actually be worse because Intel started binning the 9900K wanting to the sell the best ones as i9 9900KS for US$525 MSRP but in light of the R9 3900X behemoth at US$494 they kinda gave up on the plans I think... at least there hasn't been anything about it in a good while.

 

That aside, silicon lottery shouldn't really change unless they are binning stuff on purpose like when Intel did the i7 8086K the i7 8700K's that came after it's released were in fact a tad worse overclockers because all the better silicon got rebranded as 8086K...

 

But production remains the same from start to end of the architecture/generation.

[Melodist]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

What do you mean?

 

if anything it should actually be worse because Intel started binning the 9900K wanting to the sell the best ones as i9 9900KS for US$525 MSRP but in light of the R9 3900X behemoth at US$494 they kinda gave up on the plans I think... at least there hasn't been anything about it in a good while.

 

That aside, silicon lottery shouldn't really change unless they are binning stuff on purpose like when Intel did the i7 8086K the i7 8700K's that came after it's released were in fact a tad worse overclockers because all the better silicon got rebranded as 8086K...

 

But production remains the same from start to end of the architecture/generation.

So the KS are better overclockers? But they also aren't with integrated graphics.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Melodist said:

So the KS are better overclockers? But they also aren't with integrated graphics.

the KS is really fast out of the box so it should overclock better, but maybe it hardly overclocks at all because it's likely pushed to the limit already. What would you need integrated graphics for?

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Melodist said:

So the KS are better overclockers? But they also aren't with integrated graphics.

They have, F stands for non working iGPU, S was going to be "Super" just to distinguish them...

 

like the i9 9900K out of the box is 3.6ghz base, 4.7ghz all cores whilst the i9 9900KS would be 4.0ghz base, 5.0ghz all cores out of the box.

[Melodist]

17 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

They have, F stands for non working iGPU, S was going to be "Super" just to distinguish them...

 

like the i9 9900K out of the box is 3.6ghz base, 4.7ghz all cores whilst the i9 9900KS would be 4.0ghz base, 5.0ghz all cores out of the box.

Well, Intel advertises their 9900k with 5 GHz, so I will keep returning the CPU until I get a stable 5 GHz chip...

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Melodist said:

Well, Intel advertises their 9900k with 5 GHz, so I will keep returning the CPU until I get a stable 5 GHz chip...

That is not how it works, they only have to ensure base clock, and the i9 9900K all cores turbo is like I said 4.7ghz

 

The 5ghz they advertise is "single core" turbo which I suppose is misleading but it's how it works.

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

S was going to be "Super" just to distinguish them...

ffs now S has two meanings, lower base clock and TDP but same max turbo (4460S vs 4460) and Super. cant they just think of different letters?

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

ffs now S has two meanings, lower base clock and TDP but same max turbo (4460S vs 4460) and Super. cant they just think of different letters?

I9 9999KFC

[5x5]

8 minutes ago, Melodist said:

Well, Intel advertises their 9900k with 5 GHz, so I will keep returning the CPU until I get a stable 5 GHz chip...

You'll be returning it forever then. The stock all core turbo is 4.7.

[G00fySmiley]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

ffs now S has two meanings, lower base clock and TDP but same max turbo (4460S vs 4460) and Super. cant they just think of different letters?

consumer confusion is an important part of marketing.I am sure some focus group somewhere only associated G T S X and R or something close for high performance as that is what the car companies and motorcycle companies have come to get us used to. 

[Melodist]

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

That is not how it works, they only have to ensure base clock, and the i9 9900K all cores turbo is like I said 4.7ghz

 

The 5ghz they advertise is "single core" turbo which I suppose is misleading but it's how it works.

Well, based on their misleading advertisement, I will keep sending it back until I get a chip that can run 5 GHz at a reasonable voltage.

 

Buying boxed is definitely safer than buying one tray because these assclowns at online vendors bin the tray chips for higher resale value where with the boxed ones, you'll not  have them finger around.

[Fasauceome]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

ffs now S has two meanings, lower base clock and TDP but same max turbo (4460S vs 4460) and Super. cant they just think of different letters?

The i9 9900W, all cores at 5.2GHz, MSRP $850

 

The W stands for waste of money

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Queen Chrysallis said:

bought

and then leave it at stock

[Jurrunio]

37 minutes ago, Queen Chrysallis said:

you not gonna let that go will ya lmao

I bite

 

dont tell me even the graphics card is running stock