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mutazoid
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I upgraded systems in the past but never built one from scratch so am I missing anything?

Any part do you recommend to be changed?

Im not trying to make a super powerful PC.

The most powerful game I play rocket league otherwise Im not a gamer other than board games on websites ;)

Should I buy exhaust fan?

I have also 2 SATA drives (1 SSD 2.5" and 1 HDD 3.5")

Thanks for any tips

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $168.25 @ Vuugo
Motherboard Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $66.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply EVGA 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $61.50 @ Vuugo
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $486.72
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 10:03 EDT-0400  

 

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Go for a better PSU if you want it to last long.

Also, i've heard that your motherboard isn't the best so maybe look for a better mobo too.

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor $189.75 @ Vuugo
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.42 @ Vuugo
Memory OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $66.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Canada Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $534.14
  Mail-in rebates -$45.00
  Total $489.14
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 10:22 EDT-0400  

well i got this this is kinda better

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-Motherboard is fine - 2400g won't stress it to its limits

-Better power supply is recommended(visit psu tier list to determine psu quality)

-high speed ram(3000mhz and higher) is almost a necessity with ryzen, especially the APUs

-no need for such a case, there are cheaper options with much better airflow

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $168.25 @ Vuugo
Motherboard ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $82.42 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $94.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $9.99 @ Memory Express
Case Fan ARCTIC ACFAN00119A 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan $9.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $515.62
  Mail-in rebates -$45.00
  Total $470.62
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 10:27 EDT-0400  
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.75 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.42 @ Vuugo) may need a BIOS update.
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($90.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $458.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 10:51 EDT-0400

No real need for more case fans considering you're just running a 3400G, but you can add a couple cheap 120mm fans if you want.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Thanks guys this helped my decision process a lot :)

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Should I expect the CPU to have thermal paste already applied?

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9 minutes ago, mutazoid said:

Should I expect the CPU to have thermal paste already applied?

the cooler has it already applied.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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thanks thats what I would expect.

Im thinking about getting the 3400G cpu.

Should I be worried about the BIOS warning or will that be an upgrade I can apply without an full OS?

 

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Powerful PC in that budget...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($88.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.42 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card  ($159.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Rosewill SCM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $455.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 12:37 EDT-0400

 

PC that can easily run rocket league for cheap.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($108.75 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.42 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Rosewill SCM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $316.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 12:40 EDT-0400

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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@Vexicus Thanks for the budget option but the CPU is important to me also, just not a gaming rig.

I feel like a Ryzen 3 is too low and the reducing the ram isnt a bad option for what I do but Ill probably stick with 16 just cause its cheap and its always good to have more ram

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13 minutes ago, mutazoid said:

thanks thats what I would expect.

Im thinking about getting the 3400G cpu.

Should I be worried about the BIOS warning or will that be an upgrade I can apply without an full OS?

 

remember to quote people when replying so they know you replied, click the left-pointing arrow below each reply to quote

 

AFAIK only certain b450 motherboards allow for BIOS update without CPU installed. If I'm not wrong all MSI motherboards support it

Basically you update the BIOS without a CPU installed

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor $189.75 @ Vuugo
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-M2 V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $97.50 @ Vuugo
Memory OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $90.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $54.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Canada Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $493.22
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $473.22
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 12:55 EDT-0400  

 

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7 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

remember to quote people when replying so they know you replied, click the left-pointing arrow below each reply to quote

Thanks for this and your PC profile :) 

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57 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

 

     
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-M2 V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $97.50 @ Vuugo
     

That motherboard does not support bios flashback.

 

Not all msi motherboards support BIOS flashback.

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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55 minutes ago, mutazoid said:

@Vexicus Thanks for the budget option but the CPU is important to me also, just not a gaming rig.

I feel like a Ryzen 3 is too low and the reducing the ram isnt a bad option for what I do but Ill probably stick with 16 just cause its cheap and its always good to have more ram

2200g is on par with 2400g in gaming if you add in a discrete gpu. Because currently most games utilize 4 cores at Max. 

Also you can go with the r3 1200 + rx570 build that I have mentioned above. It'll blow away the igpu of 3400g.

 

 

1 hour ago, VEXICUS said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($88.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($82.42 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($56.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card  ($159.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Rosewill SCM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($27.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $455.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 12:37 EDT-0400

 

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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15 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

Because currently most games utilize 4 cores at Max.

maybe 4 years ago sure, definitely not now. 

15 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

2200g is on par with 2400g in gaming if you add in a discrete gpu

extra 4 threads help significantly unless you're playing older titles that don't need many cores. I wouldn't recommend the 1200, maybe 2200g in place of it will be fine

Also, quite certain the video you linked is from a channel that's completely bullshit. I'd stick with reviews from reputable sources or one that at least shows gameplay with the hardware being tested

16 hours ago, _d0nut said:

remember to quote people when replying so they know you replied, click the left-pointing arrow below each reply to quote

 

AFAIK only certain b450 motherboards allow for BIOS update without CPU installed. If I'm not wrong all MSI motherboards support it

Basically you update the BIOS without a CPU installed

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor $189.75 @ Vuugo
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-M2 V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $97.50 @ Vuugo
Memory OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $90.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $54.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Canada Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $493.22
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $473.22
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-29 12:55 EDT-0400  

 

@mutazoidMy bad, didn't know this motherboard didn't support bios flashback. You'd lose a few % of performance with a 2400G(cheaper though) but it should be 100% compatible

 

 

 

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