ASRock X570 Tachi "BIOS Flashback" vs Gigabyte X570 Aorus PRO Wifi "Q-Flash Plus"

[graberweg]

Is the ARock "BIOS Flashback" feature the same thing as Gigabyte's "Q-Flash Plus"? Both indicate you can flash your BIOS without a CPU or RAM in the board or is there more to it than just that?

[SPARTAN VI]

Yes, basically the same thing:

 

And this is ASRock's BIOS Flashback:

[thx1138]

https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/

 

From what I know...All BIOS flash style features are the same as each other.

 

Though if you look at AsRocks Cpu Compatibility on their mb page. they suggest almost all of their boards are compatible with 3000 series no matter the BIOS

 

though I generally do not like AsRock.

[graberweg]

Yea I had confusion initially thinking that "Flashback" meant something cool like if you accidentally update your BIOS and it breaks something that worked fine before, the feature would let you revert the the previous version but I just made that up in my head I think

 

This answers my question though. I was conflicted between the 2 boards for a Ryzen 3000 series machine I'm planning to build in the coming months.

[asand1]

I've heard from multiple YouTubers that ASRock has the worst VRMs in the B450 series, while MSI has the best.

 

I've not heard anything about 570 though.

[graberweg]

Just now, asand1 said:

I've heard from multiple YouTubers that ASRock has the worst VRMs in the B450 series, while MSI has the best.

I'm not sure. Toms hardware seemed to like the Gigabyte board I mentioned but that's just their opinion I suppose.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-x570-aorus_pro-wi-fi-review,6285.html

At the moment I have my eyes set on a Ryzen 3700X with this board possibly.

[thx1138]

VRM info

 

[thx1138]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$327.89 @ B&H
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Inland Premium 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$159.99 @ Newegg
Case	Silverstone RL06 ATX Mid Tower Case	$91.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$75.99 @ SuperBiiz
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1095.61
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$1060.61
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-24 16:17 EDT-0400

 

Edited August 24, 2019 by thx1138
swapped the 3600 for the op's 3700x

[thx1138]

45 minutes ago, graberweg said:

Yea I had confusion initially thinking that "Flashback" meant something cool like if you accidentally update your BIOS and it breaks something that worked fine before, the feature would let you revert the the previous version but I just made that up in my head I think

 

This answers my question though. I was conflicted between the 2 boards for a Ryzen 3000 series machine I'm planning to build in the coming months.

so some gpus and such have two bios chips??  

 

 just in-case you f--k something up on a flash(mining rigs.) I am not extremely familiar, but def see why you would think that from the name....

 

again i am not familiar...just have heard about it on older  gpus during the mining craze...so.....

[graberweg]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($327.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($144.99 @ Walmart)
Total: $1589.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-24 16:17 EDT-0400

Preliminary parts list but subject to change. Maybe I'll get the Gigabyte its cheaper but better? I'm on the fence about it still somehow

[graberweg]

I've changed my parts list so many times and I don't have a solid budget but going over $2k is where I might draw the line

[graberweg]

My current machine has an intel E6750 with 8 GB RAM and a 2 TB Mechanical hard drive. 10 years strong but its age is totally showing in performance

[thx1138]

8 hours ago, graberweg said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($327.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($289.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($144.99 @ Walmart)
Total: $1589.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-24 16:17 EDT-0400

Preliminary parts list but subject to change. Maybe I'll get the Gigabyte its cheaper but better? I'm on the fence about it still somehow

This looks pretty awesome....

Though I would say the GPU is not price/perf. You can get a Vega 56 at that price.

and I would recommend a 5700xp Aftermarket cooler for 420$ or even a 2070$uper for $500+ 

also...PSU?

[graberweg]

2 hours ago, thx1138 said:

This looks pretty awesome....

Though I would say the GPU is not price/perf. You can get a Vega 56 at that price.

and I would strongly recommend a 5700xp Aftermarket cooler for 420$ or even a 2070$uper for $500+

also...PSU?

Yea I forgot the PSU but wouldn't *any* be pretty OK?

 

The GPU I'm not married to anything. I'll check out the Vega 56. I'm prob not gonna game much but I'm open to doing some gaming.

[GamerDude]

2 hours ago, graberweg said:

Yea I forgot the PSU but wouldn't *any* be pretty OK?

 

The GPU I'm not married to anything. I'll check out the Vega 56. I'm prob not gonna game much but I'm open to doing some gaming.

Just make sure to get a VEGA 56 with a good 3rd party cooler from one of the AIB's - like PowerColor, Sapphire, Gigabyte, Asus. I'm a big fan of PowerColor Red Devil series myself and am waiting for a Red Devil NAVI 21/23.