What Memory modules run best with 1st Gen Ryzen APU's

[Johnnnyb]

I am literally making this because I just found out my PC's bandwidth is being cut in half because of my ram modules not being the correct one for the APU I have which is a Ryzen 5 1600. I really need listings of ram that is known to work best with ryzen also the ram needs to be either 3200Mhz or 3000Mhz either one is fine. Also they absolutely need to be a 16GB kit at minimum. I'm asking here because I legitimately don't know what runs best with ryzen.

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, Johnnny167 said:

the APU I have which is a Ryzen 5 1600

The 1600 isn't an APU, an APU has integrated graphics.

 

6 minutes ago, Johnnny167 said:

I just found out my PC's bandwidth is being cut in half because of my ram modules not being the correct one

Your entire PC or just your memory bandwidth? Still, memory bandwidth is very important. What kit do you currently have? And what motherboard, have you tried to overclock?

[mariushm]

The Ryzen 1600 is not an APU .. an APU has integrated graphics.

 

As for your other statements... the only reason why your bandwidth would be cut in half is if you're not installing the memory sticks in dual channel mode. For dual channel mode, you need two memory sticks, or four memory sticks - you simply must install memory sticks in pairs, and they must be installed in the proper slots.

The motherboard manual will tell you in which slots you need to install the memory sticks.

 

Ryzen processors like fast memory, and the 1st gen of Ryzen processors can work easily with memory sticks that go up to 3200 Mhz.

Between 2666 Mhz and 3200 Mhz, there's maybe 2-5% boost in performance, a few extra fps in games. It's not a huge amount of difference, but nevertheless there is some improvement. You DO NOT have to buy 3200 Mhz memory sticks, probably the best performance for the money would be 3000 Mhz sticks.

 

So buy a pair of memory sticks, running at 3000 Mhz or higher... so best would probably be a 2 x 8 GB kit since you want 16 GB minimum. If your motherboard has 4 memory slots, then you can later buy a second pair if you want more than 16 GB.

 

[Johnnnyb]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

The 1600 isn't an APU, an APU has integrated graphics.

 

Your entire PC or just your memory bandwidth? Still, memory bandwidth is very important. What kit do you currently have? And what motherboard, have you tried to overclock?

My ram is what meant

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Johnnny167 said:

My ram is what meant

and what ram is it? (and motherboard)

[Tristerin]

17 minutes ago, Johnnny167 said:

I am literally making this because I just found out my PC's bandwidth is being cut in half because of my ram modules not being the correct one for the APU I have which is a Ryzen 5 1600. I really need listings of ram that is known to work best with ryzen also the ram needs to be either 3200Mhz or 3000Mhz either one is fine. Also they absolutely need to be a 16GB kit at minimum. I'm asking here because I legitimately don't know what runs best with ryzen.

Do you mean to say that your CPU-Z download is showing half the speed (but did you know DDR stands for Double Data Rate, meaning its 2x that speed you see is the actual speed)  And whatever you do, ensure you run dual channel (2 sticks minimum) with Ryzen.  But if your BIOS is showing the speed than that's what the speed is and you need to change your XMP or DOHCP profile

[Johnnnyb]

This is the ram I'm currently using: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jx8H99/team-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlred416g3000hc16cdc01

 

And by the way I did in fact put them in the correct slots I may need to reseat them though.

[Johnnnyb]

Also my mobo is Asrock B450 pro

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Johnnny167 said:

This is the ram I'm currently using: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jx8H99/team-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlred416g3000hc16cdc01

 

And by the way I did in fact put them in the correct slots I may need to reseat them though.

looks like you're all good with that, if you've enabled XMP or DOCP in the BIOS of your motherboard (whichever setting is in your menus)

[Tristerin]

Just now, fasauceome said:

looks like you're all good with that, if you've enabled XMP or DOCP in the BIOS of your motherboard (whichever setting is in your menus)

For that board it will be XMP (have the same board)

[mariushm]

See page 7 : http://asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Manual/B450 Pro4.pdf

 

Your RAM must go in slots A2 and B2.

Then you may have to go in BIOS and enable XMP or manually set the memory sticks to 3000 Mhz, otherwise the BIOS may default to 2133 Mhz or 2400 Mhz.

 

[Tristerin]

53 minutes ago, Johnnny167 said:

I am literally making this because I just found out my PC's bandwidth is being cut in half because of my ram modules not being the correct one for the APU I have which is a Ryzen 5 1600. I really need listings of ram that is known to work best with ryzen also the ram needs to be either 3200Mhz or 3000Mhz either one is fine. Also they absolutely need to be a 16GB kit at minimum. I'm asking here because I legitimately don't know what runs best with ryzen.

 

Going to ask once more just to ensure this isn't the issue (see above) 

 

Is your BIOS showing half the speed?  Or is it a software (CPU-Z for example) because in BIOS it will show the actual mhz.  In software applications it will show up as, as you noted, HALF, because DDR stands for Double Data Rate - so the actual speed is 2x the speed shown in CPU-Z for example.

 

Here is my 3600mhz

 

 

 

[Johnnnyb]

3 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Do you mean to say that your CPU-Z download is showing half the speed (but did you know DDR stands for Double Data Rate, meaning its 2x that speed you see is the actual speed)  And whatever you do, ensure you run dual channel (2 sticks minimum) with Ryzen.  But if your BIOS is showing the speed than that's what the speed is and you need to change your XMP or DOHCP profile

Well basically what I failed to mention is that in my bios it shows that its running at the rated speed and thats with XMP enabled (I made sure) BUT on windows it says 1500Mhz in task manager IDK why it says that but that immediately confused me to why that was happening 

[Johnnnyb]

3 hours ago, mariushm said:

See page 7 : http://asrock.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com/Manual/B450 Pro4.pdf

 

Your RAM must go in slots A2 and B2.

Then you may have to go in BIOS and enable XMP or manually set the memory sticks to 3000 Mhz, otherwise the BIOS may default to 2133 Mhz or 2400 Mhz.

 

Yep I've done that all is done right just some confusion from windows

[Tristerin]

Just now, Johnnny167 said:

Well basically what I failed to mention is that in my bios it shows that its running at the rated speed and thats with XMP enabled (I made sure) BUT on windows it says 1500Mhz in task manager IDK why it says that but that immediately confused me to why that was happening 

You are running at 3000mhz, all good to go then

[Johnnnyb]

2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

 

Going to ask once more just to ensure this isn't the issue (see above) 

 

Is your BIOS showing half the speed?  Or is it a software (CPU-Z for example) because in BIOS it will show the actual mhz.  In software applications it will show up as, as you noted, HALF, because DDR stands for Double Data Rate - so the actual speed is 2x the speed shown in CPU-Z for example.

 

Here is my 3600mhz

 

 

 

This is a thing I'm seeing in task manager for whatever reason and it showed as being at 1500Mhz rather than 3000Mhz

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Johnnny167 said:

This is a thing I'm seeing in task manager for whatever reason and it showed as being at 1500Mhz rather than 3000Mhz

The whatever reason:

 

DDR4 (Double Data Rate is what the DDR stands for) - means its 1500mhz (double that) = 3000 MHz, its this way always on software side far as I know

[Johnnnyb]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

You are running at 3000mhz, all good to go then

Question? Is it normal for windows to show a lower frequency than what the ram is actually running at? Because that's what is mainly confusing me here. I can screenshot what I see if you want?

[Johnnnyb]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

The whatever reason:

 

DDR4 (Double Data Rate is what the DDR stands for) - means its 1500mhz (double that) = 3000 MHz, its this way always on software side far as I know

k thx for the help bro

[MadmanRB]

Just now, Johnnny167 said:

Question? Is it normal for windows to show a lower frequency than what the ram is actually running at? Because that's what is mainly confusing me here. I can screenshot what I see if you want?

It can, windows can be a bit inaccurate at detecting things.

[Tristerin]

Just now, Johnnny167 said:

k thx for the help bro

No problem, had to learn this myself questioning the SAME thing LOL.

[Johnnnyb]

Just now, MadmanRB said:

It can, windows can be a bit inaccurate at detecting things.

k....Interesting