Building a desktop for building games

[darkphoenix1994]

hey guys I need help. I want to build a desktop computer for designing games. my old laptop a hp notebook that is two years old is not cutting it. and i have no idea where to start for building a desktop myself. any suggests will be helpful. i need it to hold large amounts of data such like more than a 1 tb building games can take a lots of memory. please note i am not tech smart when i come to the tech words or phrase.

[LukeSavenije]

hm... couple things

• budget
• country
• programs

[Dedayog]

Would be nice if the mods helped out with a template or standard way of having folks supply all the needed information to help them out...

 

Oh... Yeah, we need a lot more, if you can add similar to what is in the below thread.

 

 

 

 

[DavidKalinowski]

My general experience in life, I have noticed it tends to apply to every thing; Whatever you think you need, double it, then add one more. But honestly, if you are trying to be a game creator and are asking for help on building your workstation, you might want to get more up on hardware/take some classes because you need to understand your hardware so you can design/build your games accordingly. 

 

 

[darkphoenix1994]

6 minutes ago, DavidKalinowski said:

My general experience in life, I have noticed it tends to apply to every thing; Whatever you think you need, double it, then add one more. But honestly, if you are trying to be a game creator and are asking for help on building your workstation, you might want to get more up on hardware/take some classes because you need to understand your hardware so you can design/build your games accordingly. 

 

 

ok i will do that

[darkphoenix1994]

4 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... couple things

• budget
• country
• programs

OK i need something that can run music editing, video editing. being able to store all the data from the music and video files. being able to run adobe and unity programs. compatibly with my wiacom tablet for drawing. 

i live in the states, my budget currently is 5000

[DavidKalinowski]

If any one wants to check my work, I think this would cover anything OP would be doing..

I changed the HDD on the thread ripper to two 6GB Seagates as found by

LukeSavenije

Who honestly seems to know more about this than I do lol.

 

intel based:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zs2tP3

 

ThreadRipper: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6Js9J

 

[LukeSavenije]

59 minutes ago, darkphoenix1994 said:

my budget currently is 5000

hm... only tower?

 

i can do it for less

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor	$500.00
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - X470 Taichi Ultimate ATX AM4 Motherboard	$239.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$104.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$669.99 @ Amazon
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2214.67
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$2164.67
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 12:17 EDT-0400

another 4 cores can be had for around 250 dollars extra, but will come in september, unlike the 3900x and below (7/7). with that come x570 boards that enable pcie 4.0, I'd personally recommend you the x570 creative from asrock

[DavidKalinowski]

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... only tower?

 

i can do it for less

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor	$500.00
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - X470 Taichi Ultimate ATX AM4 Motherboard	$239.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$104.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card	$669.99 @ Amazon
Case	Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case	$89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2214.67
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$2164.67
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 12:17 EDT-0400

another 4 cores can be had for around 250 dollars extra, but will come in september, unlike the 3900x and below (7/7). with that come x570 boards that enable pcie 4.0, I'd personally recommend you the x570 creative from asrock

I some how missed those segates when I looked. thats a nice price for that storage cap. Good find.

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, DavidKalinowski said:

intel based:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zs2tP3

aio? unreliable for this work. maximus hero has a midrange vrm for a way too high price. 9900k would make much more sense here, but rather zen 2 would be my choice. 1300 is quite a lot for a 2080 ti. two 2x16 kits would be cheaper, high current pro 1000 is overkill, 970 evo is quite expensive and might not even have a huge benefit over for example a ex920

 

5 minutes ago, DavidKalinowski said:

ThreadRipper: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6Js9J

again aio, and not even enough for that chip, why a kit with ram coolers? 200 for a 750 watt psu? taichi might hold it, but i wouldn't start going anything over stock with it, only a meg creation can handle that well (sweet sweet infineons)

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, DavidKalinowski said:

I some how missed those segates when I looked. thats a nice price for that storage cap. Good find.

you were probably filtering on 7200 rpm

[DavidKalinowski]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

aio? unreliable for this work. maximus hero has a midrange vrm for a way too high price. 9900k would make much more sense here, but rather zen 2 would be my choice. 1300 is quite a lot for a 2080 ti. two 2x16 kits would be cheaper, high current pro 1000 is overkill, 970 evo is quite expensive and might not even have a huge benefit over for example a ex920

 

again aio, and not even enough for that chip, why a kit with ram coolers? 200 for a 750 watt psu? taichi might hold it, but i wouldn't start going anything over stock with it, only a meg creation can handle that well (sweet sweet infineons)

honesty I was just picking things quickly with out much thought. those aio where listed on AMDs list of cooling solutions for threadrippers though.  (and yea I was filtering by 7200RPM on the drive. I was just staying in OPs budget, not really putting a lot of thought or research into it. This illistrates my point though, OP needs to do some reasearch and learn more about the hardware and what they really need. I have basically no experience in field OP is trying to get into, I'm more experience in gamming and or basic office systems.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, DavidKalinowski said:

honesty I was just picking things quickly with out much thought. those aio where listed on AMDs list of cooling solutions for threadrippers though

so you think a small 240mm aio can cool a 250w tdp chip? i would rather do a nhd15 or dark rock pro 4

 

my knowledge on usage isn't that good

 

but i know way too much about hardware in general, which kinda solves most errors

[DavidKalinowski]

10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

so you think a small 240mm aio can cool a 250w tdp chip? i would rather do a nhd15 or dark rock pro 4

 

my knowledge on usage isn't that good

 

but i know way too much about hardware in general, which kinda solves most errors

https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper

 

Its listed on there, thats all I was going by. If it was my personal build I would honestly go old school and use either a heater core or a transmission cooler and custom build the whole set up with insulated tubing, probably use two radiators to cool the liquid on the intake and out take from the CPU. I tend to go over kill, that way I'm never lacking

[Dedayog]

Just now, DavidKalinowski said:

https://www.amd.com/en/thermal-solutions-threadripper

 

Its listed on there, thats all I was going by. If it was my personal build I would honestly go old school and use either a heater core or a transmission cooler and custom build the whole set up with insulated tubing, probably use two radiators to cool the liquid on the intake and out take from the CPU. I tend to go over kill, that why I'm never lacking

Overkill makes no sense here tho.  Nice project tho I guess.

 

12TB of storage, Luke?  Why not a few to 4 TB's of nice SATA loving?  Are we really anticipating needing 12TB?  He's got the budget, use it.

 

What monitor?  If you're creating games, which are played in 4K... wouldn't you want a 4K capable machine?  Or are you making web based or Unity games?

 

[DavidKalinowski]

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Overkill makes no sense here tho.  Nice project tho I guess.

 

12TB of storage, Luke?  Why not a few to 4 TB's of nice SATA loving?  Are we really anticipating needing 12TB?  He's got the budget, use it.

 

What monitor?  If you're creating games, which are played in 4K... wouldn't you want a 4K capable machine?  Or are you making web based or Unity games?

 

overkill always makes sense if you stay under budget (which I did lol) any ways, I still think OP is getting in over their head if they don't have any idea what hardware they need.

[Dedayog]

On 6/25/2019 at 12:55 PM, DavidKalinowski said:

overkill always makes sense if you stay under budget (which I did lol) any ways, I still think OP is getting in over their head if they don't have any idea what hardware they need.

Now that second half, I do agree with.

 

We need to know what kind of games she's building, to get an idea of what level of workstation she needs. 

[darkphoenix1994]

On 6/25/2019 at 9:58 AM, jstudrawa said:

Now that second half, I do agree with.

 

We need to know what kind of games he's building, to get an idea of what level of workstation he needs. 

I am building an RPG Crafting game that is 3D i wanted to use pixels but there is alot of hate for them. I mostly use unity to build that other games i have. All the programs my teacher is using are adobe products. I am just starting out. learning as i go. By the way am a girl.