AMD Is Working On A Monster 64-Core Threadripper

[Clueless_Gamer]

"A wild 64-core Ryzen Threadripper 3rd Generation processor leak appears"

AMD Is Working On A Monster 64-Core Threadripper, Landing As Early As Q4 2019

Did you think AMD was done with Threadripper? Well, if that’s what you thought, I have some good news. I have confirmation that the company is preparing an absolutely monstrous 64-core/128-thread Threadripper part for launch in Q4 2019. AMD’s largest HEDT processor right now is the W2990X which tops out at 32-cores. This is nothing to sneeze at and is already the highest core HEDT part around but because the world can’t get enough of these yummy cores, AMD is planning to launch a 64-core version in Q4 2019.

 

 

AMD working on ultra-HEDT X599 platform: Threadripper CPUs with up to 64-cores

The platform is called X599 right now although I am told AMD is considering changing the name to avoid confusion with Intel. This is not really surprising since both Intel and AMD HEDT platforms have the same nomenclature and it can get really confusing. I am also told that they they plan to retain the “99” suffix. AMD is planning to launch the 64-core Threadripper part and the corresponding platform in Q4 2019. In fact, that is when you can expect these motherboards to start popping up from various AIBs.

 

This is pretty exciting news, because knowing AMD, the 64-core Threadripper CPU will probably be priced in the $2500 to $3000 range, making it one of the most affordable workstation processors around with this many threads. Considering Intel’s 18-core retails for around $1800, this is going to be an absolute steal for the retail professional. This processor is also going to be great for homegrown server setups and computing clusters – the applications are practically endless."

 

 

MY THOUGHTS: 

 

IF these leaks were to be believed, this thing will need some serious cooling solutions. AMD is placing themselves in a good position for workstation and server CPU's, if the performance is high and power use is low, they will take some of intel's market share. their products are becoming more appealing given the price point. 

 

 

sources : https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amd-is-working-on-a-monster-64-core-threadripper-landing-as-early-as-q4-2019/

 

https://www.techradar.com/news/a-wild-64-core-ryzen-threadripper-3rd-generation-processor-leak-appears 

 

 

 

[BigDamn]

That release date makes this seem a bit fishy. Wouldn't they have already announced it if we were that close to the release date?

 

But damn if this is real this shits gonna be a beast. Dare I say it could run two instances of Crysis?

[CarlBar]

To be fair i fully expected core counts to rise from TR2, and it wouldn't be a total shock if they did this.

[Trixanity]

3 minutes ago, BigDamn said:

That release date makes this seem a bit fishy. Wouldn't they have already announced it if we were that close to the release date?

 

But damn if this is real this shits gonna be a beast. Dare I say it could run two instances of Crysis?

They announced Ryzen 3000 like 5 weeks before. We're looking at potentially almost 6 months till launch. So it's not close at all. However lots of things do seem fishy regarding this.

[rawrdaysgoby]

LOL, this is like so not surprising to any of us at all... it be more surprising if they didn't have one planned 

[JoeCoke]

Who knows if these leaks are true, hell they're probably not, but just guesses. Easy guesses at that, because would it really be THAT surprising if they had a 64 core threadripper? They have 16 on mainstream boards now.

[Firewrath9]

wccftech is notoriously unreliable.

not suprised if there would be 64 core epyc, its kinda like saying next gen intel HEDT is 28c

[RobFRaschke]

4 core per chiplet on Zen 1 and Zen +; 8 cores per chiplet on Zen 2. First and second gen threadripper came with up to 8 chiplets and 8 time 8 is in fact, 64. They have also already confirmed a 64 core Epyc processor as well. So... Yeah, duh.

[Suika]

5 minutes ago, RobFRaschke said:

4 core per chiplet on Zen 1 and Zen +

I think you're confused. The Zen and Zen+ dies used in EPYC and Threadripper where the same 8 core dies we saw on desktop, they were not 4 core chiplets. 

 

Perhaps you're thinking about individual CCXs?

[Turtle Rig]

I don't even think rendering a video would use up all 128 threads.  You can render 4 videos at the same time and finishing fast and what not.

[RobFRaschke]

10 minutes ago, Suika said:

I think you're confused. The Zen and Zen+ dies used in EPYC and Threadripper where the same 8 core dies we saw on desktop, they were not 4 core chiplets. 

 

Perhaps you're thinking about individual CCXs?

Apparently Mountain Dew simply does not take the place of actual sleep. Though the new Liberty Brew is growing on me.

 

Let's try this again.

 

Threadripper 1 and 2, and their Epyc counterparts used 4 Zen 1 and Zen + chiplets per CPU, allowing up to 32 cores. The new Epyc Rome processors have been confirmed at 64 cores, with 8 chiplets plus an I/O die, as opposed to 4 chiplets sharing the IO on two of them. Thus 8 times 8 is still 64(thank god I didn't screw that up.) Therefore I do suspect we'll get threadripper using essentially these same Epyc dies and layouts, but with certain instruction sets disabled.

 

 

The one bit I don't understand is the new chipset, unless it's just for PCIe Gen4, as they've already confirmed that the new Epyc Rome chips work in existing SP3 motherboards at PCIe Gen 3. Basically the same as x470 vs x570 I suppose.

[XenosTech]

1 minute ago, RobFRaschke said:

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Eypc and TR didn't use chiplets they were the same exact architecture as ryzen but they were their own set of silicon. Zen 2 on the other hand from ruzen right up to TR could come from the same wafer with binning whereas with zen and zen+ they were

[Drak3]

20 minutes ago, RobFRaschke said:

Threadripper 1 and 2, and their Epyc counterparts used 4 Zen 1 and Zen + chiplets per CPU, allowing up to 32 cores

Not quite. TR 1, 2, and EPYC gen 1 are MCM. Multiple monolithic dies. 4 cores per CCX, 2 CCX per die.

 

TR3, Ryzen, and the next gen of EPYC are chiplet designs. Dedicated IO die, but still 4 cores per CCX and 2 CCX per core die.

[cj09beira]

52 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

Eypc and TR didn't use chiplets they were the same exact architecture as ryzen but they were their own set of silicon. Zen 2 on the other hand from ruzen right up to TR could come from the same wafer with binning whereas with zen and zen+ they were

true but only half, epyc and threadripper use one die from ryzen and one that has its bottom layers mirrored to allow fro shorter connections between the dies 

[cj09beira]

i was expecting them to bring out the 48 core first, guess when they said threadripper would go up UP they really meant it, just WOW, 64 lanes probably 4.0 thats going to be insane.

 

btw gamers nexus said that x570 allows for a 8x connection between it and the chipset if you giveup some IO (usbs /sata ports) thats how the asus Ws Ace can have 3 8x slots 

[XenosTech]

2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

true but only half, epyc and threadripper use one die from ryzen and one that has its bottom layers mirrored to allow fro shorter connections between the dies 

Actually forgot about that.

[BigDamn]

2 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

wccftech is notoriously unreliable.

not suprised if there would be 64 core epyc, its kinda like saying next gen intel HEDT is 28c

Isn't there already a 64 core Epyc? Or at least an upcoming one

[illegalwater]

Wow, what a surprise! /s

[Firewrath9]

18 minutes ago, BigDamn said:

Isn't there already a 64 core Epyc? Or at least an upcoming one

yeah, I meant TR lmao srry

[sazrocks]

16 cores and 32 threads per memory channel? This is going to be interesting.

[williamcll]

What's EPYC's current clock speed?

[williamcll]

3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Like 2.2.

So a 3-4Ghz clock doesn't seem to far fetched.

[BigDamn]

1 hour ago, williamcll said:

So a 3-4Ghz clock doesn't seem to far fetched.

Maybe not quite 4ghz but 3ghz wouldn't be a surprise. Many server CPU's come underclocked, so I'm sure you could even overclock Epyc beyond 2.8ghz. That is, if Epyc supports overclocking. Never looked into that tbh

[Deli]

I can only imagine the power draw for a 64 core at 4GHz. The 2990WX draws 350w on PBO. So 700w+ for the 64 cores??

[JoeCoke]

Just now, Deli said:

I can only imagine the power draw for a 64 core at 4GHz. The 2990WX draws 350w on PBO. So 700w+ for the 64 cores??

Well, Zen 2 is supposedly a good bit more efficient, but oh yeah it's still gonna be a massively power hungry CPU.