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What pisses you off with PC building?

Just wanted to ask everyone what pisses them off about PC building can anything doesn't matter how big/small..

 

I'll  start off

  1. products that don't have magnetic screws!
  2. Forgetting to put the IO shield (why can everyone just have it premounted is beyond me!)
  3. PC parts that still use Molex connectors - it's useless!!! SATA works just perfectly and there is an actual reason for it in a modern build
  4. the fact that you have to install at least 3 different application just to manage you RGB on a normal build (unlike most tech youtuber that get everything from the same vendor)

There is a bunch more but that's enough from me... :)

 

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Thermal compound application.

 

Every time I apply thermal compound even though I know exactly how much I should be applying, I always get paranoid about whether the compound shifted around whilst I bolt down the cooler.

 

Thermal compound is also the one liquid that I've experienced with in PC building, so I'm cautious about getting it on my hands and other objects, it's icky to work with.

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4 minutes ago, MorbidNature said:

Just wanted to ask everyone what pisses them off about PC building can anything doesn't matter how big/small..

 

I'll  start off

  1. products that don't have magnetic screws!
  2. Forgetting to put the IO shield (why can everyone just have it premounted is beyond me!)
  3. PC parts that still use Molex connectors - it's useless!!! SATA works just perfectly and there is an actual reason for it in a modern build
  4. the fact that you have to install at least 3 different application just to manage you RGB on a normal build (unlike most tech youtuber that get everything from the same vendor)

There is a bunch more but that's enough from me... :)

 

  1. Get a magnetic screw driver
  2. Every motherboard has different IO layout.You can't have it pre-mounted. Although some motherboard now started to have it mounted on the motherboard itself.
  3. Molex connector is cheaper, and provides a better connection than SATA power. SATA power was designed for easy plug and unplug for hot swappable drives (hence the extra pins). It is also smaller. You don't want it to unplug in the case. Molex doesn't unplug itself if properly connected. With M.2 drive taking the place of drives, why should we still have SATA power cable?
  4. Every manufacture wants you to be locked in to their products. How about not using RGB?
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On 5/30/2019 at 8:25 AM, seoz said:

Thermal compound application.

 

Every time I apply thermal compound even though I know exactly how much I should be applying, I always get paranoid about whether the compound shifted around whilst I bolt down the cooler.

You can spread it. Use a clean card (or whatever similar that can act as a spreader) to spread an even coat of the thermal paste on both sides (CPU and heatsink). This guarantees a full coverage of the chip.

 

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Trying to reach anything on the top part of a mobo after fitting a big air cooler. I still have the scars to show for it...

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Just now, GoodBytes said:

You can spread it. Use a clean card or clean brush to spread an even coat of the thermal paste on both sides. This guarantees a full coverage of the chip.

I've heard this method tends to lead to air bubbles so I've always just relied on the cooler pressure doing the work for me, which now that I think of it, is quite detrimental to my application.

My Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut came with a spreader splatula but I've been afraid to use it.

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Just now, GoodBytes said:
  1. Get a magnetic screw driver
  2. Every motherboard has different IO layout.You can't have it pre-mounted. Although some motherboard now started to have it mounted on the motherboard itself.
  3. Molex connector is cheaper, and provides a better connection than SATA power. SATA power was designed for easy plug and unplug for hot swappable drives (hence the extra pins). It is also smaller. You don't want it to unplug in the case. Molex doesn't unplug itself if properly connected. With M.2 drive taking the place of drives, why should we still have SATA power cable?
  4. Every manufacture wants you to be locked in to their products. How about not using RGB?

1. I have several magnetic screwdrivers, some PC part comes with NON-MAGNETIC (which is why i said it that why) screws. An example i recently bought a PCI express to 2 USB 3.0 Header (since my MB only has one), and it came with NONmagnetic screws that regardless of how much you try they will not stick.

2. the fact reminds that a lot of high-end board have their IO shield built it, why isnt that the standard what reason should there to mount it?!

4. I don't but turning it off especially where there is a power outage requires 3 types of software

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A board without enough fan headers. As a result I need to use a fan hub, which causes a cable mess (only 3 headers with speed control, but I have 8 fans).

 

18 minutes ago, MorbidNature said:

Forgetting to put the IO shield (why can everyone just have it premounted is beyond me!)

the one that comes with my board doesnt fit my case anyway, I just leave that out for ventilation

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16 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Those power and reset cables.  So small; my hands are too meaty.

This!  So glad some motherboards come with the adapter thing now.  I could always guarantee I'd get one or two of them wrong when doing them in the past :(

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Screws that look the same but have different thread. It's technically not so bad - allows you to choose what kind of screws you want to use (I'm pretty deep in Thumbscrew Master Race these days), so perhaps I should instead be upset that different parts use different threads? Anyway, don't make me pay attention, gosh darn it! Flips an IO shield with cut, bloody fingers!

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- When a case is made without ample room for cable management (mainly for the 24 pin cable)

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not having enough space for your hands to fit in the case if things go wrong and you already installed everything. 

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Building is OK but configurating my PC is tiring tbh. 

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34 minutes ago, seoz said:

I've heard this method tends to lead to air bubbles so I've always just relied on the cooler pressure doing the work for me, which now that I think of it, is quite detrimental to my application.

My Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut came with a spreader splatula but I've been afraid to use it.

Only if you put a thick layer. You just want a layer thin enough to hide the text on the chip.

 

Note: The suggested method assumes you are using a heatsink with flat bottom.

Example:
Heatsink_Bottom2_02.jpg

 

If you are using the ones that has exposed heatpipes one, then this method, from my testing is not good (probably can cause issue due to the uneven base plate. Or you probably need to put a layer that is thicker to cover the crack between the plate and heatpipes.. not sure, its been to long)

 

 

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Bad CPU Cooler mounting mechanics.

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Too many fan and RGB cables. And too many RGB controllers that need stupid molex to power it. 

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I also agree with cable management being the worst part of building PCs.

 

Otherwise... troubleshooting why a brand new pc doesn't work would tick me off as well. (Luckily this has never happened... yet)

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37 minutes ago, MorbidNature said:

1. I have several magnetic screwdrivers, some PC part comes with NON-MAGNETIC (which is why i said it that why) screws. An example i recently bought a PCI express to 2 USB 3.0 Header (since my MB only has one), and it came with NONmagnetic screws that regardless of how much you try they will not stick.

Oh... that is interesting...

 

37 minutes ago, MorbidNature said:

2. the fact reminds that a lot of high-end board have their IO shield built it, why isnt that the standard what reason should there to mount it?!

Well it costs money to have it pre-mounted on the motherboard, if you getting a more budget friendly motherboard, then corner have to be cut, sadly. Sure, you might favor having it built-in over having another feature or 2, but I think the general public would not mind the minor inconvenience once in every.. say.. typically 5 years over gaining 1 or 2 features.

 

37 minutes ago, MorbidNature said:

4. I don't but turning it off especially where there is a power outage requires 3 types of software

Get a soldering iron and pull out the LED's or get a enclosed cased, lol.

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30 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Oh... that is interesting...

 

Well it costs money to have it pre-mounted on the motherboard, if you getting a more budget friendly motherboard, then corner have to be cut, sadly. Sure, you might favor having it built-in over having another feature or 2, but I think the general public would not mind the minor inconvenience once in every.. say.. typically 5 years over gaining 1 or 2 features.

 

Get a soldering iron and pull out the LED's or get a enclosed cased, lol.

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If someone told me, Pay 5 bucks extra to have the IO shield mounted I would pay that in a heartbeat (probably costs them a lot less than that) as would most folks i think.

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