(16core added)AMD 3000 specs! 4.7 GHZ, R9 3950x, R7 3700x, 3800x.

[TheSLSAMG]

2 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

How you like Adored now? 

3800x/3700x will definitely be my new proc. Gotta read/watch reviews closely in the next few months

Today we can finally confirm that Adored is an untrustable schmuck.

[S w a t s o n]

Just now, Drak3 said:

So, no source.

The computex stream we all just watched??

 

[Rune]

Gonna look forward to launch date on these though. Going to be nuts at work...

[Drak3]

Just now, TheSLSAMG said:

Today we can finally further confirm that Adored is an untrustable schmuck.

FTFY.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

The computex stream we all just watched??

Ignoring the context of my last reply. Nice.

 

 

Get back to me when you have multiple independent, verifiable sources.

[Humbug]

1 minute ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Not sure why AMD is staying away from laptops. Quad Zen 2 and Navi would be pretty amazing for laptops. If it's a branding issue, would probably be good to get that marketing department some midnight oil to burn.

Better than that they could actually easily make 6-core APUs with Zen2 cores and Navi graphics if they wanted to. On performance at a given TDP Intel would have no answer considering the new architectures and 7nm combined.

I'm pretty sure it is not a branding issue. They probably do not feel confident that there is enough 7nm capacity to do desktop CPUs, GPUs and laptops simultaneously. So they pushed laptops to 2020...

[S w a t s o n]

Just now, Drak3 said:

Ignoring the context of my last reply. Nice.

 

 

Get back to me when you have multiple independent, verifiable sources.

Dude what, it's fine to wait for review to purchase but it's obviously clear that AMD is not exactly trying THAT hard. You literally ask me for a source and then complain about the only source in existence.

IPC is matched up to intel, just accept it

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

You literally ask me for a source

I asked you for a source that AMD is sandbagging. You have none.

I asked you for a source that AMD has decided to not release a 16 core CPU on AM4 despite being able to. You have none.

3 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

IPC is matched up to intel, just accept it

Actually, according to AMD, they surpass it. Intel has a ~5% lead over current Ryzen, and Ryzen 3 supposedly brings a 15% increase.

 

But no one should believe that until verified by multiple independent sources. We've gotten many of these claims over the years, and they turned out to be false.

[BiG StroOnZ]

Supposed sneak peek footage of the "16-core Zen 2" @ 4:05:

 

 

https://youtu.be/MkO4R10WNUM?t=243

 

The ES sample hit just shy of a 4.3GHz all-core overclock. 

 

[Zodiark1593]

9 minutes ago, Humbug said:

Better than that they could actually easily make 6-core APUs with Zen2 cores and Navi graphics if they wanted to. On performance at a given TDP Intel would have no answer considering the new architectures and 7nm combined.

I'm pretty sure it is not a branding issue. They probably do not feel confident that there is enough 7nm capacity to do desktop CPUs, GPUs and laptops simultaneously. So they pushed laptops to 2020...

For the majority of consumers (not counting gamers or anylne else with regular. Heavy workloads), I feel even quad core with SMT is pretty overkill, let alone hex core. I think a small die approach with modest iGPU (more than enough for casual games + running AAA titles at reduced settings) and excellent power consumption characteristics would excel here while costing relatively little and not asking overly much of fabs to produce.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

3700x /3800x / 3900x  okay, but where are the non-X of these chips?

also we dont have Wraith spore with RGB LED

[Humbug]

4 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Actually, according to AMD, they surpass it. Intel has a ~5% lead over current Ryzen, and Ryzen 3 supposedly brings a 15% increase.

 

But no one should believe that until verified by multiple independent sources. We've gotten many of these claims over the years, and they turned out to be false.

Yep. It looks to me like AMD has gone slightly ahead on IPC.

But for single threaded workloads Intel can offset that with higher clockspeeds (5Ghz) as long as they are willing to throw noise/efficiency/heat etc out of the window. But Intel has to at least do that because they are losing badly in multi-threaded where they have no chance.

[Ithanul]

2 hours ago, ONOTech said:

I wonder how the dual die will affect latency on the 3900X. They said it was a good gaming chip based on the PUBG clip, but I'm taking it with a grain of salt until I see independent benches.

I'm curious about that as well.  Hopefully some layouts of the internals show up later.

Maybe those will get similar modes like TRs have with distributed and local mode with memory access.

[S w a t s o n]

13 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I asked you for a source that AMD is sandbagging. You have none.

I asked you for a source that AMD has decided to not release a 16 core CPU on AM4 despite being able to. You have none.

Actually, according to AMD, they surpass it. Intel has a ~5% lead over current Ryzen, and Ryzen 3 supposedly brings a 15% increase.

 

But no one should believe that until verified by multiple independent sources. We've gotten many of these claims over the years, and they turned out to be false.

As i said before matched MINIMUM.

The 12 core CPU's are 16 core cpu's. Be real now, you think they dont have working 8 core chiplets? Nice meme dude

[Drak3]

7 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

As i said before matched MINIMUM.

Which doesn't line up with AMD's IPC numbers and boost clocks.

 

8 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

The 12 core CPU's are 16 core cpu's.

13 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

Be real now, you think they dont have working 8 core chiplets?

That's irrelevant. We're not talking about whether or not AMD has 8 core chips. We're talking about AMD's mythical 16 core AM4 chip never showing up.

[S w a t s o n]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

 

It's not like AMD isnt allowed to announce more sku's later as they undoubtedly will lmao

[Drak3]

Just now, S w a t s o n said:

It's not like AMD isnt allowed to announce more sku's later as they undoubtedly will lmao

Source for AMD having ever planned a 16 core chip, if you would Jim.

[S w a t s o n]

Just now, Drak3 said:

Source for AMD having ever planned a 16 core chip, if you would Jim.

they make 8 core chiplets, they can put 2 chiplets on am4, the mobo makers are making vrm's to support extreme overclocking and/or high score counts, steve from gamers nexus seems to have information as well.
 

 

[ravenshrike]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Source for AMD having ever planned a 16 core chip, if you would Jim.

Apparently MSI just vastly over-engineered the VRMs on the 570's for shits and giggles.

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Source for AMD having ever planned a 16 core chip, if you would Jim.

Well there are 2 sides to the AMD 16 core.

 

It is technically very possible, and there have been engineering samples, BUT, it would be a 16 core chip on dual channel memory...

I don't know how much that would affect performance, but that can't be good at all.

I think that 16 would be better suited for quad channel memory.

[leadeater]

4 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

It's not like AMD isnt allowed to announce more sku's later as they undoubtedly will lmao

Unless the chiplets are different then they contain 8 cores each, information you can gather by the EPYC lineup.

[S w a t s o n]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Unless the chiplets are different then they contain 8 cores each, information you can gather by the EPYC lineup.

yes,

22 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

the 12 core CPU's are 16 core cpu's.

 

[melete]

4 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

they make 8 core chiplets, they can put 2 chiplets on am4, the mobo makers are making vrm's to support extreme overclocking and/or high score counts, steve from gamers nexus seems to have information as well.
 

 

Hmm. Do I listen to Steve Burke, or contrarians on the internet?

[Drak3]

Just now, S w a t s o n said:

they make 8 core chiplets, they can put 2 chiplets on am4,

Give us an actual source. Not excuses. Not hearsay.

 

1 minute ago, Origami Cactus said:

It is technically very possible

I don't care that it's technically possible. That's irrelevant to the question of whether AMD was even planning on one to begin with.

 

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

had another table done, this time to include R5 and the related R3 rumor

 

one of the 8c16T part seems to be spot on. maybe because THAT's what the CPU was during the CPU teaser demo at CES

 

lol that price optimism