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[ended] AMD Computex 2019 Keynote Livethread-- REHEARSAL 50 MINUTES AGO?!

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

There is no discussion of substance to be had, good day.

Kinda been that way since the start since you refused to provide any "substance" to back up your 5 GHz claims other than "I KNOW BROS TRUST MEEEEE"

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1 minute ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

I've got a 1700X so I do have a bit of a more valid reason to head for Ryzen 9, but yeah. I wonder what and if AMD has anything to offer that's spectacular for Threadripper next.

I'm doing a lot of game dev projects next year using both Maya and Blender hence why I'm looking to stay on TR for now.  I like my 1080, but a Radeon VII would be better than it for rendering.

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2 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

Kinda been that way since the start since you refused to provide any "substance" to back up your 5 GHz claims other than "I KNOW BROS TRUST MEEEEE"

 

21 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

Alright, when you get done just using circlejerk memes like chip whisperer and adored, maybe educate yourself on the physical properties of the materials and technologies and then we'll have a grown up conversation about how a process node impacts the switching speed of the transistors, ok?

 

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1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

is there any fair comparison done through out 1.5 hours? both navi and zen2

something seems to be hiding

 

Don't trust a corporation when benching their own hw against a competitor they all do shady shit to promote their product.  Intel used chilled water, for example, to push their one CPU against an AMD one.  Just wait for GN, HW Unboxed, Linus, and others to do reviews then compare said reviews.

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1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

maybe educate yourself on the physical properties of the materials and technologies and then we'll have a grown up conversation about how a process node impacts the switching speed of the transistors, ok?

So you wanna put money behind that statement then since you're just soooooo sure about it?

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2 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

So you wanna put money behind that statement then since you're just soooooo sure about it?

We'd never agree to terms. I'm not about to claim 100% of CPUs will do 5GHZ easy. I understand how it works. Silicon lottery will definitely play a role, but 5ghz will be as attainable as say a 9900k minimum.

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17 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Does he have proof?  I keep hearing and seeing contradictory info on that.

the fact that there's an engineer sample that was leaked+the new info today from steve was good enough for me, but from what ive seen the clock speeds arent promising. That and when lisa su showed off the 8 core chip on stage it was 1 chiplet, there's no reason why 2 chiplets won't be 16 cores. The odds are 1 chiplet containing only 6 core is extremely low. I'm not even trying to make it look good for amd, this keynote was disappointing.

 

Anyway from the keynote, it looks like amd still COULD be slower in gaming and they really need that 16core part to justify the potential problems/latency with 2 chiplets over the 9900k.

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32 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I said I hoped the leaks didn't line up.  They did not line up.

 

 

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Where did any of this line up?

 

The first 8 core and the first 12 core both match adoreds leaks in terms of performance specs. The second 8 core has lower frequencies. Pricing and branding are subject to change upto a matter of weeks prior to launch. Especially when both hsi sources and others have noted that AMD wasn't sure whether to launch the 16 core with the rest or wait to launch it. When it arrives was allways going to majorly affect the branding.We allready have independent claims fram Gamers Nexus and Buildzoid that the 16 core part will come eventually.

 

2 out of 3 is actually a really good average for leakers. None of them are 100% accurate.But then thats the isue we've allways had when discussing any of the Ryzen 3000 leaks. All the critics want them to get everything right down to the last detail, rather than getting the major points right in the majority of cases. Which is pretty much all that ever happens with leaks of any description about any subject.

 

 

As far as the argument about final clock: GN reported that the 16 core can pull 300w on water. Thats a lot of power for a mere 16 cores. I'd be amazed if significant frequency upticks aren't possibble.

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1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

never once there'd be a fair comparison from all three teams on presentation days, LOL

The one that blew my mind was how well the Radeon VII benched at the CES keynote, but the thing was under performing and having stability issues for the first 2 months of drivers.

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1 minute ago, xg32 said:

the fact that there's an engineer sample that was leaked+the new info today from steve was good enough for me, but from what ive seen the clock speeds arent promising.

That was just a random twitter post that didn't provide any evidence.  It as a random claim by a leaker through words and no support from AMD, and there was no credible pics/video of it either.

Just now, CarlBar said:

 

The first 8 core and the first 12 core both match adoreds leaks in terms of performance specs. The second 8 core has lower frequencies. Pricing and branding are subject to change upto a matter of weeks prior to launch. Especially when both hsi sources and others have noted that AMD wasn't sure whether to launch the 16 core with the rest or wait to launch it. When it arrives was allways going to majorly affect the branding.We allready have independent claims fram Gamers Nexus and Buildzoid that the 16 core part will come eventually.

 

2 out of 3 is actually a really good average for leakers. None of them are 100% accurate.But then thats the isue we've allways had when discussing any of the Ryzen 3000 leaks. All the critics want them to get everything right down to the last detail, rather than getting the major points right in the majority of cases. Which is pretty much all that ever happens with leaks of any description about any subject.

 

 

As far as the argument about final clock: GN reported that the 16 core can pull 300w on water. Thats a lot of power for a mere 16 cores. I'd be amazed if significant frequency upticks aren't possibble.

The 3700x is not a 12 core it's an 8c/16t, the 3800x is not a 16c/32t.  Not sure if the 3900x is the official name since it just said Ryzen 9, unless I missed a part of the keynote, and that's a 12c/24t.  Not one of these was shown off at CES, and the only price that lined up, based on the keynote, was the 3700x.  The most we have gotten, proof wise, is that Lisa keeps holding up a 16 core ES.  Everything else seems to be just contradictory information.  GN says it's real, AMD partners say maybe yet can't confirm nor deny due to NDAs, and then you have that one twitter post that lacks proof.  I mean it would be neat if it were real, but let's be honest.  That thing is not going to be cheap.  The one unnamed Ryzen 9 12 core is already 500.  That's pretty close to a TR 16 core gen 1 in terms of pricing. If the pricing isn't good on the 16 core zen 2, if it exists, won't be cheap at all.  Plus, if the one Ryzen 9 is the 3900x then wtf are they going to call this one?

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3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

That was just a random twitter post that didn't provide any evidence.  It as a random claim by a leaker through words and no support from AMD, and there was no credible pics/video of it either.

The 3700x is not a 12 core it's an 8c/16t, the 3800x is not a 16c/32t.  Not sure if the 3900x is the official name since it just said Ryzen 9, unless I missed a part of the keynote, and that's a 12c/24t.  Not one of these was shown off at CES, and the only price that lined up, based on the keynote, was the 3700x.  The most we have gotten, proof wise, is that Lisa keeps holding up a 16 core ES.  Everything else seems to be just contradictory information.  GN says it's real, AMD partners say maybe yet can't confirm nor deny due to NDAs, and then you have that one twitter post that lacks proof.  I mean it would be neat if it were real, but let's be honest.  That thing is not going to be cheap.  The one unnamed Ryzen 9 12 core is already 500.  That's pretty close to a TR 16 core gen 1 in terms of pricing. If the pricing isn't good on the 16 core zen 2, if it exists, won't be cheap at all.  Plus, if the one Ryzen 9 is the 3900x then wtf are they going to call this one?

It's still a high probability (i'd put money on it) that the 16 core part exists and isn't announced, let's just agree to disagree.

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Just now, xg32 said:

It's still a high probability that the 16 core part exists and isn't announced, let's just agree to disagree.

We'll see I just don't trust a lack of proof or hype.  Would be neat to see a non-TR that high in c/t count, but as I said, that's not going to be cheap.

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I will actually have to agree with @S w a t s o n for once.

5GHZ will be possible on 7nm, and it should be possible on water cooling.

That is because ryzen 3000 is on a better process than the last ryzens, meaning that the max overclock isn't tied to the boost clock of the processor. They don't boost to 5ghz out of the box because of power constraints (because AMD's  TDP actually means something).

But as you can see from all the motherboards having 24 +8 +8 cpu power, they are very overclocking oriented.

 

Also the 16core 3950x will come out end of year, when intel comes out with their 12 cores.

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7 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

The 3700x is not a 12 core it's an 8c/16t, the 3800x is not a 16c/32t.  Not sure if the 3900x is the official name since it just said Ryzen 9, unless I missed a part of the keynote, and that's a 12c/24t.  Not one of these was shown off at CES, and the only price that lined up, based on the keynote, was the 3700x.  The most we have gotten, proof wise, is that Lisa keeps holding up a 16 core ES.  Everything else seems to be just contradictory information.  GN says it's real, AMD partners say maybe yet can't confirm nor deny due to NDAs, and then you have that one twitter post that lacks proof.  I mean it would be neat if it were real, but let's be honest.  That thing is not going to be cheap.  The one unnamed Ryzen 9 12 core is already 500.  That's pretty close to a TR 16 core gen 1 in terms of pricing. If the pricing isn't good on the 16 core zen 2, if it exists, won't be cheap at all.  Plus, if the one Ryzen 9 is the 3900x then wtf are they going to call this one?

 

Again pricing and what they name the chips can and will change right upto release. Thats product release 101. Whats actually important is things like clock speeds and power draw because they're set much further out.

 

He claimed they would be releasing an 8c/16t part with 3.6ghz base, 4.2ghz boost and a 65w TDP. Thats exactly what AMD just announced. Ditto for the 12c. He claimed 12c/24t 3.8Ghz base, 4.4ghz Boost and a 105w TDP. Thats exactly what AMD just announced.

 

At this point i'm starting to wonder if you even understand what pricing and product names even means.

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17 minutes ago, CarlBar said:

 

Again pricing and what they name the chips can and will change right upto release. Thats product release 101. Whats actually important is things like clock speeds and power draw because they're set much further out.

 

He claimed they would be releasing an 8c/16t part with 3.6ghz base, 4.2ghz boost and a 65w TDP. Thats exactly what AMD just announced. Ditto for the 12c. He claimed 12c/24t 3.8Ghz base, 4.4ghz Boost and a 105w TDP. Thats exactly what AMD just announced.

 

At this point i'm starting to wonder if you even understand what pricing and product names even means.

The names didn't change and the pricing did not change.  AMD never released the names and pricing until now.  They just didn't line up with what he claimed minus maybe 2 things at most.  

Jim hyped up a Ryzen 7 3700x 12c/24t wthat would have 4.2 on stock that boosts up to 5ghz.  The moved down 3900x is the only proven 12c/24t and the clocks are 3.8 with a boost of 4.6.  That would mean he was wrong, and AMD did not provide that he got it from another leak while claiming his source was from AMD and that I would see in the coming months why he was right.  Sure, it's nice that there is a 12 core with 24 threads with those, but they hype didn't match what AMD actually delivered.  So again, no the naming and pricing didn't change.  Jim was just wrong and AMD did nothing there other than deliver a product.  They had no involvement in his chart.

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3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

The names didn't change and the pricing did not change.  AMD never released the names and pricing until now.  They just didn't line up with what he claimed minus maybe 2 things at most.  

 

You do realise companies routinely start discussing this kind of things months in advance. Working out a rough early draft and updating that draft based on a combination of in house product performance data and evolving market conditions. They don;t sit down a few weeks before hand and sort all this out. AMD will have had the product names of the Zen 2 processors, (and probably the core counts), penciled in before Zen 1 even publicly launched. they probably had penciled in price points, though that tends to be more nebulous.

 

The fact that something is unreleased does not make it not subject to change internally and it doesn't mean that it hasn't allready been written out to some degree of detail, (often late in the process in quite a lot of detail), internally. Unreleased to the public does not mean they haven't been working on and roadmapping it all internally. And any leak is going to be from that internal data. And when it comes to pricing and branding, (especially on a low packaging product), that internal data routinely changes right upto launch.

 

I'm increasingly getting the feeling that you have zero clue about how business is actually conducted inside any kind of corporate office environment.

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23 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

5GHZ will be possible on 7nm, and it should be possible on water cooling.

On 7nm, yes.

 

On Ryzen 7nm is yet to be seen. Just because the node is capable of 5GHz doesn't mean the architecture is (and versa vice as seen with Ryzen 1).

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17 minutes ago, CarlBar said:

 

You do realise companies routinely start discussing this kind of things months in advance. Working out a rough early draft and updating that draft based on a combination of in house product performance data and evolving market conditions. They don;t sit down a few weeks before hand and sort all this out. AMD will have had the product names of the Zen 2 processors, (and probably the core counts), penciled in before Zen 1 even publicly launched. they probably had penciled in price points, though that tends to be more nebulous.

 

The fact that something is unreleased does not make it not subject to change internally and it doesn't mean that it hasn't allready been written out to some degree of detail, (often late in the process in quite a lot of detail), internally. Unreleased to the public does not mean they haven't been working on and roadmapping it all internally. And any leak is going to be from that internal data. And when it comes to pricing and branding, (especially on a low packaging product), that internal data routinely changes right upto launch.

 

I'm increasingly getting the feeling that you have zero clue about how business is actually conducted inside any kind of corporate office environment.

Now, you're putting words into my mouth.  Jim does not work for AMD his chart was based on some bs he bought into then claimed his source was good, that his uncle works at Nintendo, all the usual shit Jim spouts for his click bait bs.  


AMD did not just give him this info, nobody at AMD gave him this info, and his info was wrong.  Jim was wrong.  Where exactly did AMD come out and start telling everyone this crap?  When did AMD personally handle this, or anyone at AMD, give this info directly to Jim?  They didn't!

They might have said there was a CPU at 3.8 with a boost of 4.6 that has 12 cores and 24 threads.  But, there is no proof of that let alone any proof that they said it would be the 3700x.  That was speculation by Jim who also told us that it would be shown off at CES.  Also, that doesn't change the name it just means the info Jim had was bad and didn't line up with what he kept claiming.  It also doesn't mean the info is directly from the inside either.  If it did then he would have gotten updated info rather than sit around telling us how right he was.  Jim like to mix leaked info with his own shitty speculation then says all that is accurate, and then says it's all right and how we will see in the coming months why he was right.  Point is the hype he and others built up did not line up.  AMD literally did nothing to do this, and that's all on Jim.  I highly doubt AMD did a name and price change last minute to change this much.  It was just bad hyping as usual for Jim.


1.  See the source image

2.  "You will see in the coming months why I was right!"

 

3.  "Names and prices might change!"

 

So, first he asserts incorrect information then tells us how right he will be, and then damage controls.  Ya, he's really credible.  I'm not arguing that the core counts on some and the clocks weren't wrong, but when you say you will be right/act like you're information is all correct then add that bit in a later video you pretty much lost me.  He hyped up how right he was going to be to the point that AMD themselves even thanked him for the hype.  But, his hype bs didn't live up to what was delivered.  That's on him and no AMD didn't just change this later on.  It's just his info was bad as usual.  He even admitted to parts of it being wrong on twitter.

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2 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Since Ryzen is getting more single-thread performance than Intel now, at lower max clock speeds, does that means AMD now has a higher IPC than Intel?

how's the IPC comparisons for Zen+ vs whateverlake Intel's at right now? o_o if they're the same, I think it's safe to guess AMD has the upper ground now

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6 hours ago, valdyrgramr said:

Now, you're putting words into my mouth.  Jim does not work for AMD his chart was based on some bs he bought into then claimed his source was good, that his uncle works at Nintendo, all the usual shit Jim spouts for his click bait bs.  


AMD did not just give him this info, nobody at AMD gave him this info, and his info was wrong.  Jim was wrong.  Where exactly did AMD come out and start telling everyone this crap?  When did AMD personally handle this, or anyone at AMD, give this info directly to Jim?  They didn't!

They might have said there was a CPU at 3.8 with a boost of 4.6 that has 12 cores and 24 threads.  But, there is no proof of that let alone any proof that they said it would be the 3700x.  That was speculation by Jim who also told us that it would be shown off at CES.  Also, that doesn't change the name it just means the info Jim had was bad and didn't line up with what he kept claiming.  It also doesn't mean the info is directly from the inside either.  If it did then he would have gotten updated info rather than sit around telling us how right he was.  Jim like to mix leaked info with his own shitty speculation then says all that is accurate, and then says it's all right and how we will see in the coming months why he was right.  Point is the hype he and others built up did not line up.  AMD literally did nothing to do this, and that's all on Jim.  I highly doubt AMD did a name and price change last minute to change this much.  It was just bad hyping as usual for Jim.


1.  See the source image

2.  "You will see in the coming months why I was right!"

 

3.  "Names and prices might change!"

 

So, first he asserts incorrect information then tells us how right he will be, and then damage controls.  Ya, he's really credible.  I'm not arguing that the core counts on some and the clocks weren't wrong, but when you say you will be right/act like you're information is all correct then add that bit in a later video you pretty much lost me.  He hyped up how right he was going to be to the point that AMD themselves even thanked him for the hype.  But, his hype bs didn't live up to what was delivered.  That's on him and no AMD didn't just change this later on.  It's just his info was bad as usual.  He even admitted to parts of it being wrong on twitter.

have you noticed you are the one making huge assumptions 

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so it seems amd went with the same tdps as they had previosly to maintain compatibility with the older boards (main problem was probably b350 and a320),

will like to see what they will do with the 6 cores and the non x skus 

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