[LEAKED] Intel Gen11 Graphics Lineup

[Results45]

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Translated:

--- Iris Plus 950

• 64EU/512 Shaders
• U-series
• 25W

--- Iris Plus 940 (high-end)

• 64EU/512 shaders
• U-series

--- Iris Plus 940 (low-end)

• 48EU/384 shaders
• U-series

--- Iris Plus 930 (high-end)

• 64EU/512 shaders
• Y-series

--- Iris Plus 930 (low-end)

• 32EU/256 shaders
• Y-series

--- UHD 920

• 32EU/256 shaders
• U-series

--- UHD 910

• 32EU/256 shaders
• Y-series

 

The Mysterious Ones:

Spoiler

--- "UHD Graphics LP GT2" (LP = low-power)

• 48EU/384 shaders
• Y-series

--- "UHD Graphics LP GT2"

• 48EU/384 shaders
• Y-series

--- "UHD Graphics LP GT2"

• 48EU/384 shaders
• U-series

--- "UHD Graphics LP GT2"

• 32EU/256 shaders
• U-series

--- "UHD Graphics LP GT0"

• KF-series???

--- "UHD Graphics LP GT0P5"

• KF-series???

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Iris Pro 980?, Iris Pro 970?, Iris Pro 960?, Iris Plus 955?, UHD 905?, UHD 900?

 

Sources:

• https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gen11-graphics-lineup-specs,38892.html
• https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/288132-intel-details-changes-to-gen-11-graphics-architecture
• https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-ice-lake-gen11-gt2,news-60005.html

[Princess Luna]

yay Iris Pro isn't dead.... yet.

 

I was wondering just the other day how we have been with the UHD630 on desktop for quite a while...

[Taf the Ghost]

18 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

yay Iris Pro isn't dead.... yet.

 

I was wondering just the other day how we have been with the UHD630 on desktop for quite a while...

Because Intel never backported anything. Gen10 is on Cannonlake and Gen11 is on Icelake. Gen12 is on Tigerlake/(Rocket Lake?) and is the first chance you'll see it on desktop.

[Fnige]

1 hour ago, Results45 said:

Slices?

 

Somebody please do a intel GPU pizza

[Spotty]

54 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

I was wondering just the other day how we have been with the UHD630 on desktop for quite a while...

That's not the only thing Intel has been stuck on for a while...

[Bouzoo]

3 minutes ago, Spotty said:

That's not the only thing Intel has been stuck on for a while...

Needs more ++++++++

[Totally Average Gameplay]

36 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Needs more ++++++++

Im surprised they sucked more out of the 14nm's life than it should have.
Yet, again that's not the only thing they sucked out of.

[Dabombinable]

55 minutes ago, Totally Average Gameplay said:

Im surprised they sucked more out of the 14nm's life than it should have.
Yet, again that's not the only thing they sucked out of.

Think about it. Intel's 14nm was and is extremely densely packed compared to TMSC and GloFo's similarly sized nodes. They really haven't needed to switch from 14nm. Though not doing so will have more than likely upset their shareholders. And has sort of put them on the back foot when it comes to marketing spiel.

Still don't know why Intel didn't decide to keep the PCH all on 22nm though...would have certainly helped avoid their severe shortages. And it's not like Intel hasn't had the PCH on 1 or 2 nodes behind in the past.

[thorhammerz]

59 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Still don't know why Intel didn't decide to keep the PCH all on 22nm though...

Backporting some of the more modern features probably required non-trivial R&D costs to realize.

 

Although they did at one point backport their H310 chipset (and renamed it the H310C) to 22nm.

[Soppro]

Now I wanna know what kind of performance we can get out of these 

[Dabombinable]

4 hours ago, thorhammerz said:

Backporting some of the more modern features probably required non-trivial R&D costs to realize.

 

Although they did at one point backport their H310 chipset (and renamed it the H310C) to 22nm.

I'm talking about having never manufactured the PCH on 14nm at all.

[NumLock21]

2 hours ago, Soppro said:

Now I wanna know what kind of performance we can get out of these 

Can finally achieve solitaire at 4k 30fps

[schwellmo92]

It’s looking likely that Iris Pro will be more powerful than the Vega 8/11 GPU’s they compete with. The UHD range are also getting quite a boost.

[Results45]

On 5/24/2019 at 11:45 PM, Dabombinable said:

Think about it. Intel's 14nm was and is extremely densely packed compared to TMSC and GloFo's similarly sized nodes.

 

Yup. Their "14nm" is actually closer to 10nm:

 

And their "10nm" is pretty comparable in transistor density to competing 7nm processes:

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/25/2019 at 2:12 AM, Soppro said:

Now I wanna know what kind of performance we can get out of these 

 

That depends whether they are making the new iGPUs on 10nm or reusing 14nm++.

 

If the 900-series iGPUs are made with 10nm then compared to the current lineup (600-series) the performance improvement per shader could range anywhere from 40-70%.

 

But if 14nm is reused then we can estimate the performance gains based on today's shader counts -- albeit probably slightly better efficiency and clock speeds:

• [167%+ performance gain] HD 610 (12EU/96 Shaders) ~> UHD 910 (32EU/256 shaders)
• [33%+ performance gain] UHD 620 (24EU/192 Shaders) ~> UHD 920 (32EU/256 shaders)
• [33-83%+ performance gain] HD 630 (24EU/192 Shaders) ~> Iris Plus 930 (32-64EU/256-512 shaders)
• [15-33%+ performance gain] Iris Plus 640 (48EU/384 shaders) ~> Iris Plus 940 (48-64EU/384-512 shaders)
• [33%+ performance gain] Iris Plus 650 (48EU/384 shaders) ~> Iris Plus 950 (64EU/512 shaders)

 

Though wild cards still remain: successors* to the Iris Pro 580, Iris Plus 655, HD 615, UHD 605, and UHD 600 

 

 

*increased to 96EUs, 64-72EUs, 32EUs, 24EUs, and 20EUs respectively

 

 

Edit: Gen11 is being manufactured on 10nm.

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-gen-11-gpu-lineup-iris-plus-graphics-950-detailed/

 

And here's the officially claimed performance gains over Gen9.5 (and Vega 8/10):

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-computex-2019-preview-5ghz-all-core-i9-9900ks-and-ice-lake/

[Guest]

I think the high end and low end models will confuse customers a little bit, they might wonder why if they have the same model, they might get substantially better or worse performance.

[Results45]

UPDATE ~ Gen11 will also support Variable Rate Shading via DX12:

 

 

VRS Explained:

https://developer.nvidia.com/vrworks/graphics/variablerateshading

https://pcper.com/2019/03/microsoft-announces-variable-rate-shading-for-directx-12/

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[Kisai]

On 5/25/2019 at 4:50 AM, NumLock21 said:

Can finally achieve solitaire at 4k 30fps

Some days I wonder why Intel even bothers. They clearly do it so they can cut AMD and nVidia out of the rubbish-tier laptop/ultrabook/SFF space, but this space couldn't possibly be that profitable, and the customers end up with a product they need to throw away after 2-3 years. The most logical reason to have ANY video core on the die at all is so that the system can boot up without a GPU for troubleshooting, safe mode, but beyond that, it's completely wasted. Intel then said "hey quicksync, just turn on the iGPU", and yeah AMD and nVidia pretty much beat them to that.

 

Right now the only practical application for even having the iGPU turned on at all is to use mixed-adapter GPU mode, and use the second screen on the iGPU for debugging games running on the main screen. If you do not have an expansion card GPU, then good luck using the iGPU in anything meaningful.

 

Relative FPS, what a weasel marketing gimmick.

[thorhammerz]

39 minutes ago, Kisai said:

Some days I wonder why Intel even bothers. They clearly do it so they can cut AMD and nVidia out of the rubbish-tier laptop/ultrabook/SFF space, but this space couldn't possibly be that profitable,

If it wasn't profitable, then they wouldn't do it .

 

Which implies full well that it does in fact, help generate sufficient revenue to justify its existence. At least up until a certain performance tier (and market segment) like the 9900KF/9400F .

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and the customers end up with a product they need to throw away after 2-3 years.

I take it you aren't familiar with the life expectancy of a business laptop?

 

Some people go through them like toilet paper - IT spec's the bare minimum knowing this full well.

[Zodiark1593]

52 minutes ago, Kisai said:

Some days I wonder why Intel even bothers. They clearly do it so they can cut AMD and nVidia out of the rubbish-tier laptop/ultrabook/SFF space, but this space couldn't possibly be that profitable, and the customers end up with a product they need to throw away after 2-3 years. The most logical reason to have ANY video core on the die at all is so that the system can boot up without a GPU for troubleshooting, safe mode, but beyond that, it's completely wasted. Intel then said "hey quicksync, just turn on the iGPU", and yeah AMD and nVidia pretty much beat them to that.

 

Right now the only practical application for even having the iGPU turned on at all is to use mixed-adapter GPU mode, and use the second screen on the iGPU for debugging games running on the main screen. If you do not have an expansion card GPU, then good luck using the iGPU in anything meaningful.

 

Relative FPS, what a weasel marketing gimmick.

Harsh words there. 

 

At least Intel's iGPUs are actually usable for gaming. The old GMA series were hardly suitable for even (relatively) old games of the time, even at minimal settings, most anything within a couple years not running fluently at all. Even decoding video was a stretch for anything but the GMA 4500MHD. Intel HD users today have it quite good, tbh.

 

Also, games are far from the only application of a good iGPU. Intel's graphics are perfectly competent in accelerating Photoshop, Lightroom, Blender and many similar productivity applications. The fact that you can now perform these tasks in a cheap laptop (or prebuilt desktop I suppose) without a dGPU is fantastic for students and hobbyists, you know, the kind of people that aren't able to throw around many hundreds of dollars.

 

Obviously, Zen based APUs are also included here.

[Kisai]

2 hours ago, thorhammerz said:

 

I take it you aren't familiar with the life expectancy of a business laptop?

 

That's day job. Replacing laptops with slightly newer laptops. That said, it's typically replacing Haswell and Skylake this year with Coffee Lake. Last year there were still people using Ivy Bridge systems.

 

[thorhammerz]

15 minutes ago, Kisai said:

That's day job. Replacing laptops with slightly newer laptops. That said, it's typically replacing Haswell and Skylake this year with Coffee Lake. Last year there were still people using Ivy Bridge systems.

 

Kudos to your guys who've managed to not kill their laptops in less than 3 years.

[Oalei]

is this something worth to care about? well iris seems like a good CPU if the price is not nonsense.

[8uhbbhu8]

lol people talking about businesses replacing laptops every year or two. Most replace every 5+ years. A place i'm at now still has c2d laptops in service as standard.

[schwellmo92]

On 5/26/2019 at 4:46 AM, Results45 said:

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The stats you’re quoting for Intel 10nm is actually wrong and is based off their original target of 2.7x density, it was revised early last year to 2.4x. And that’s 2.4x their 14nm++ which is already less dense than their original 14nm.

 

Also in the graph on node sizes is that the original Intel 14nm? Or the less dense current 14nm++?

 

If Intel hit 2.4x density over 14nm++ for their 10nm node it would sit right between TSMC 10nm and 7nm, being 15-20% denser than 10nm but 15-20% less dense than 7nm.

[Results45]

Came across these today -- the official Gen11 graphics architecture.......

 

In-depth presentation:

• [GDC 2019] https://software.intel.com/en-us/videos/the-architecture-of-11th-generation-intel-processor-graphics
• [slides only] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-gen11-graphics-architecture-gdc,39009.html

 

and whitepaper: https://software.intel.com/sites/default/files/managed/db/88/The-Architecture-of-Intel-Processor-Graphics-Gen11_R1new.pdf