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Huawei to find alternative to play store

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Source: Tweakers (Dutch), Dinheirovivo (portugese)

 

Huawei seems to be in negotiation with Aptoide, Huawei has it's own app download store with AppGallery, but Aptoide has a larger selection with around 900,000 apps. Aptoide cannot offer an alternative to other Google services such as Play Services and SafetyNet, as a result of which many Android apps will not work or will only work on smartphones without those services.

 

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The Portuguese company Aptoide, which has one of the largest alternatives to the Google Play content store, is negotiating a partnership with Huawei after the suspension of services by Google. The information was confirmed to DN Insider by Paulo Trezentos, executive director of Aptoide. "We see this news as an interesting market opportunity to create a partnership with Huawei and solve this problem that has arisen for them. These contacts have already come from behind, I myself have met with one of the heads of Huawei and my colleague responsible for the Shenzhen office (China) has been in contact. When the news came out we talked again to see if there was an opportunity for collaboration here," explains the CEO.

 

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US government to Huawei CEO:

 

”I’m going to blow Huawei” 

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This will kill them off, surely. I can't imagine a smart phone with no direct access to google services can survive.

 

Yeah, you can run Youtube in a browser, but it genuinely sucks compared to the app.

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2 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Yeah, you can run Youtube in a browser, but it genuinely sucks compared to the app.

 

I don´t get why people are obsessed with apps. I much rather use the browser for twitch and youtube than their stupid app.

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13 minutes ago, floofer said:

US government to Huawei CEO:

 

”I’m going to blow Huawei” 

"It's my way or Huawei."*

 

*not my joke, have been seeing it everywhere

The ability to google properly is a skill of its own. 

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INB4 Huawei saves so much on licensing from Google and Arm they sell flagships for $250 and make it stupid easy to flash to android 

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All the crap with politics and spying aside, this highlights the monopoly google has over smart phones if a company can't sell a phone without them.

 

Remember all that shit in the apple thread about ios and monopolies.  This is the same thing.  Google refuses to allow them access to the play store and all of a sudden it is significantly harder to sell your product. 

 

Time will tell if they can or cannot produce an alternative to the play store, my guess is likely not seeing as MS couldn't compete in the same market. 

 

As far as I am concerned the whole industry needs a shake up. 

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17 minutes ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

This will kill them off, surely. I can't imagine a smart phone with no direct access to google services can survive.

 

Yeah, you can run Youtube in a browser, but it genuinely sucks compared to the app.

It will kill them outside China, but I understand you can't use the play store inside China anyway? And China is probably the largest phone market, so Huawei wounded, but not fatally. If China takes retaliatory action against US phone manufactures, notably Apple, Huawei could end up selling more phones than they do now.

 

I am a little sad though, Honor phones are great value, and it looks like I won't be having another. 

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im pretty sure xiaomi uses its own store in china and it workes worldwide. My phone keeps offering me to switch to MI store as default for some time now, and its not that bad, but ive stayed strong with play store and sideloads... Perhaps its time to sideload only

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15 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

"It's my way or Huawei."*

 

*not my joke, have been seeing it everywhere

Keep these coming, they're Huawei-rious! ?

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Whats actually really scary is what happens to the markets when the USA inevatibly looses this tech war, huawei wont fall

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26 minutes ago, mr moose said:

All the crap with politics and spying aside, this highlights the monopoly google has over smart phones if a company can't sell a phone without them.

 

Remember all that shit in the apple thread about ios and monopolies.  This is the same thing.  Google refuses to allow them access to the play store and all of a sudden it is significantly harder to sell your product. 

 

Time will tell if they can or cannot produce an alternative to the play store, my guess is likely not seeing as MS couldn't compete in the same market. 

 

As far as I am concerned the whole industry needs a shake up. 

Actually, it's nowhere near the same. With Apple, you know from the get go that you can't have iOS on your own devices, so no real harm there as you don't even pursue that business connection. Imagine you create an international brand like Huawei is for smartphones around Google's ecosystem and one day they decide to revoke it. And that's what Huawei is facing right now. It's a really shitty situation.

 

I also find it quite a bit ironic how US of A is throwing tantrums around about spying, yet they are the same fuckers pretending to be the "good guyz". I'm not sure who scares me more, Chinese spying on me or the Americans... Frankly, I think all this shit around Huawei is immature as hell. If they know they are spying, then present the fucking evidence or shut up. If it's so clear, I don't see how it's so hard to present it to the public instead of acting like children. People who may dislike potential spying simply won't use Huawei just like I don't trust Google anymore which is why I'm not using it either. Let people decide who they trust or don't if you're not planning to release evidence that clearly convicts Huawei of spying or any wrongdoing.

 

Then again I've seen how same US of A accused Russian Kaspersky Lab when they caught NSA's contractor working with hack tools... It was a frigging joke and US was pretty much furious for getting caught while Kaspersky was literally just doing their expected job with a sensory system in their product that worked exactly as it is intended and expected. But entire US media blew it out of proportions with almost bizarre way of portraying the situation. I'm having suspicions this isn't any different with Huawei and this is me, who also has trust issues with certain Chinese things...

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4 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Actually, it's nowhere near the same. With Apple, you know from the get go that you can't have iOS on your own devices, so no real harm there as you don't even pursue that business connection. Imagine you create an international brand like Huawei is for smartphones around Google's ecosystem and one day they decide to revoke it. And that's what Huawei is facing right now. It's a really shitty situation.

 

I also find it quite a bit ironic how US of A is throwing tantrums around about spying, yet they are the same fuckers pretending to be the "good guyz". I'm not sure who scares me more, Chinese spying on me or the Americans... Frankly, I think all this shit around Huawei is immature as hell. If they know they are spying, then present the fucking evidence or shut up. If it's so clear, I don't see how it's so hard to present it to the public instead of acting like children. People who may dislike potential spying simply won't use Huawei just like I don't trust Google anymore which is why I'm not using it either. Let people decide who they trust or don't if you're not planning to release evidence that clearly convicts Huawei of spying or any wrongdoing.

 

Then again I've seen how same US of A accused Russian Kaspersky Lab when they caught NSA's contractor working with hack tools... It was a frigging joke and US was pretty much furious for getting caught while Kaspersky was literally just doing their expected job with a sensory system in their product that worked exactly as it is intended and expected. But entire US media blew it out of proportions with almost bizarre way of portraying the situation. I'm having suspicions this isn't any different with Huawei and this is me, who also has trust issues with certain Chinese things...

Company enforces restrictions that cause a loss to another entity,  it's exactly the same.

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Huawei like this gif..

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3 hours ago, Teddy07 said:

I don´t get why people are obsessed with apps. I much rather use the browser for twitch and youtube than their stupid app.

I can see your point, but there are some things that I find easier in the app, such as changing video quality.

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3 hours ago, Monkey Dust said:

And China is probably the largest phone market, so Huawei wounded, but not fatally.

Ehhhh. China might have more people, but how many of them are dirt poor and can afford a phone? Plus I would expect the more expnesive devices to have higher margins. Which would mean a loss in profit. As technically speaking the US is the "Largest" market in the world. We buy more shit than any other country in the world. So not being able to sell in the US, hurts. 

 

Though Huawei is in no danger of death. As its a Government owned company after all. Thats the whole thing with Communism, when the state is backing you, you really cant go out of business. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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Aptoide is literally a cesspool of pirated apps. There's plenty of premium apps for free up for grab on there, uploaded by regular users.

As an example, a great calculator app, HiPER Calc Pro, cost 4$ on the playstore, it was uploaded to aptoide and is up for grab free of charge(I've literally downloaded it to make sure, and yes, it truly is the genuine pro version)... Lets not even mention fake versions that require extra permissions that the original doesn't...

 

If Huawei choose Aptoide, it will just show that they are just your usual chinese company and doesn't care about copyrights.

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Well, if they allow unlocking bootloader again this won't be so much of an issue anymore.

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7 hours ago, mr moose said:

Company enforces restrictions that cause a loss to another entity,  it's exactly the same.

No, it's not. You don't lose on something you don't ever have meaning you're not even investing into that in the first place. Where with Android+Google, Huawei built a huge business around and sacking it basically screwed them entirely. How is that the same?

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good riddance to the Chinese technology theft machine, not that it'll slow them down that much

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2 hours ago, RejZoR said:

No, it's not. You don't lose on something you don't ever have meaning you're not even investing into that in the first place. Where with Android+Google, Huawei built a huge business around and sacking it basically screwed them entirely. How is that the same?

because:

 

10 hours ago, mr moose said:

Company enforces restrictions that cause a loss to another entity,  it's exactly the same.

 

It's really not that complicated. 

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Lol, no its not. Jesus. They already invested into business around Google's shit, spent billions on it, created a brand. And then they got cut off literally over night. That's very much different than not working with it since the beginning because that would mean you're already going after a different market segment that isn't affected by that from the get go. But hey, whatever makes you feel better...

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31 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Lol, no its not. Jesus. They already invested into business around Google's shit, spent billions on it, created a brand. And then they got cut off literally over night. That's very much different than not working with it since the beginning because that would mean you're already going after a different market segment that isn't affected by that from the get go. But hey, whatever makes you feel better...

Do you realise that your not making much sense?  In both cases both apple and google have demonstrated an absolute control over the ability for another to function using their services.  Whether you like it or not apple having absolute control (to the point of pulling actual current working apps from ios devices) is exactly the same thing as google preventing a whole company from using their services.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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How does Apple's absolute control of iOS affects Huawei? It doesn't. At all. Google's ban out of the blue (although not initiated by them, but US government) after years of working together and depending heavily on them at this point is basically a death for a smartphone brand. Where having absolutely zero relations with Apple and it's ecosystem didn't hinder them at all in any way. So, I don't know what kind of logic you're pulling here...

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