RTX 2070 or GTX 1080 Ti

[dionkoffie]

Hi,

 

I'm looking to replace my 1060 and I'm still debating what I should get. I found a good MSI 1080 Ti used for 550 euros, but a brand new RTX 2070 is also 550 euros.

 

I'll probably never even use the RTX features so I don't need an RTX card, but if the performance of the 2070 is the same (or even better), why not?

[seon123]

The 2070 performs closer to the 1070 Ti. The 1080 Ti performs significantly better

[Mholes]

Like @seon123 said GTX 1080 Ti is much faster than 2070 it's even faster than 2080 in some cases.

 

So i'd pick 1080 Ti.

[porina]

For non-RTX/DLSS gaming 1080Ti is faster, as 2070 is more comparable to 1080. Increasing DLSS support might change that for newer titles even if you don't care about RTX.

 

Do check if the 1080Ti is in good condition and is there any warranty on it in any form?

[dionkoffie]

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The 2070 performs closer to the 1070 Ti. The 1080 Ti performs significantly better

 

Just now, Mholes said:

Like @seon123 said GTX 1080 Ti is much faster than 2070 it's even faster than 2080 in some cases.

 

So i'd pick 1080 Ti.

Thanks! I'll pick up the 1080 Ti then.

 

Just now, porina said:

For non-RTX/DLSS gaming 1080Ti is faster, as 2070 is more comparable to 1080. Increasing DLSS support might change that for newer titles even if you don't care about RTX.

 

Do check if the 1080Ti is in good condition and is there any warranty on it in any form?

Until January next year.

[Nocte]

21 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The 2070 performs closer to the 1070 Ti. The 1080 Ti performs significantly better

The 2070 is faster than the 1080. Definitely not close to the 1070 Ti. The RTX 2060 performs close to that.

The 1080 Ti performs close to a 2080. So, as other have said, the 1080 Ti is a better pick at the same price point.

[alatron978]

23 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The 2070 performs closer to the 1070 Ti. The 1080 Ti performs significantly better

The 2070 is faster then the 1080 by 4-8%, even up to 20% in vulkan.

[MeatFeastMan]

Never get the 2070. It makes no sense and it's a complete joke. It's overpriced. Unfortunately you live in the Netherlands, so the 2070 is the only option at that price point when buying new (Vega 64 isn't even on the new market in the Netherlands so we can rule that out). Since you can't get a nice cheap vega 64, you are left with only one option and that is a used 1080ti as you say. Anything to avoid the awful 2070.

[ewitte]

Its not the same class you want to compare the 2080 to the 1080ti.  Those two trade blows.  Older games tend to favor the 1080ti and newer the 2080.  Certain functions such as asynchronous compute and concurrent fp/integer operations can see the 2080 get as much as 30% better fps though.

 

EDIT: I side graded to a Strix 2080 but it was a really good open box deal it was cheaper than the basic cards

[porina]

3 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Never get the 2070. It makes no sense and it's a complete joke. It's overpriced. Unfortunately you live in the Netherlands, so the 2070 is the only option at that price point when buying new (Vega 64 isn't even on the new market in the Netherlands so we can rule that out). Since you can't get a nice cheap vega 64, you are left with only one option and that is a used 1080ti as you say. Anything to avoid the awful 2070.

Why the hatred? It's basically better than a 1080 for what was 1080 money in gaming, and even further ahead when it comes to some compute cases.

[MeatFeastMan]

11 minutes ago, porina said:

Why the hatred? It's basically better than a 1080 for what was 1080 money in gaming, and even further ahead when it comes to some compute cases.

Cheapest 2060 in netherlands is 389 euros. Cheapest 2070 is 559 euros. What do we get for that extra 170 euros (170!!!). We get around 10-15% better performance and 2gb more vram. Brilliant...not. That is pathetic. I will not apologise for opposing Turing. Pascal was very good, Turing is awful. They have left the midrange out in the cold. Nobody wants to pay that price tag for a 2070. But nobody wants to struggle on 6gb vram in the future either using a 2060. Nvidia have done it on purpose. You either pay the big tax for 8gb or you buy the 2060 and are forced to buy next generation. I'm sorry but I am not standing for that and I will not pass that onto people wanting to buy cards. I hope others follow that and oppose the 2070. If he wants to buy new, that's what the 2060 is for.

 

The used 1080ti costs the same and pummels the 2070. It's a no-brainer. I would have recommended the vega 64 but they don't sell it in the netherlands, therefore used pascal is the only sensible way to go. We should not give into Turing and let them get away with this generation after generation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ewitte]

Turing has good improvements the price points are what is bad.

[Nocte]

12 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

We should not give into Turing and let them get away with this generation after generation.

As if DIY market actually matters for NVIDIA. We need competition to get better prices, and currently there is no competition above RTX 2060.

Sure, the Vega 64 is a thing but it's power hungry and becomes a limiting factor when upgrading old builds (does not matter for newer ones as you can just buy an appropriate 550-600W PSU).

 

Navi will lower the prices, but surely I do not believe in the rumours of "1080 performance for $249". Rumours about a cheap Radeon VII turned out to be anything but true.

 

Anyhow, it does not really matter because people will buy NVIDIA just for the brand. That's the only reason they can get away with pricing the 1650 lower than the RX 570, even though it performs way worse.