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I had just built a rig with 2nd hand parts.

I was testing my i7 4790k igpu by playing dota 2 (2nd to lowest default settings)  and it crashes mid game.

I checked the temperature and saw that it has reached 100 °C.

I tried playing again by using the lowest default settings and using vsync and I finished the same game and two more without crashing.

 

I am just using the stock fan at the moment and planning to replace it with GAMMAXX 400 this weekend (I have no thermal paste available at the moment).

 

Is this tempetature just because of the stockfan or should I get this processor delidded since it is a secondhand processor?

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mostly because of the stock crap heatsink from Intel, but also because of paste underneath. Delidding is not worth the effort until you get the best of air or liquid cooling though

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Your using a shitty cooler on a Pretty hot CPU :P Your not replacing it with something thats a lot better, you need a decent cooler on it. Having a flagship CPU but putting the cheapest cooler on it is never a good combo

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Gammaxx 400 should come with thermal paste

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Hunt for deals first.

Do better than the Gammax400 if you can.

More heatpipes per dollar if possible.

 

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Yeah, normal for a Cooler that some other companys only ship with lower end 65W TDP units. 

 

And even with a good Cooler the Temps are probably pretty shit...

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what stock are you using, tall, short (normal) or slim? It's bad ok but it shouldn't be THAT bad.

 

get some paste

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2 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

what stock are you using, tall, short (normal) or slim? It's bad ok but it shouldn't be THAT bad.

 

get some paste

this one

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1 hour ago, potatobuilder said:

I was testing my i7 4790k igpu by playing dota 2 (2nd to lowest default settings)  and it crashes mid game.

I checked the temperature and saw that it has reached 100 °C.

silly question, is the stock cooler fans spinning/ overclocked?

just on dota2 shouldnt crash anything with that stock cooler.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, potatobuilder said:

this one

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OOOOOF

 

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

just on dota2 shouldnt crash anything with that stock cooler.

that heatsink is for a 35W CPU with no iGPU.

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2 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

silly question, is the stock cooler fans spinning/ overclocked?

just on dota2 shouldnt crash anything with that stock cooler.

 

 

fans are spinning including hsf and it is not overclocked

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4 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

that heatsink is for a 35W CPU with no iGPU.

oh so that's why it crashed?

It seems to be ok when just browsing and watching movies, and when I lower the graphics settings and use vsync.

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30 minutes ago, potatobuilder said:

oh so that's why it crashed?

It seems to be ok when just browsing and watching movies, and when I lower the graphics settings and use vsync.

Well it's ok for idle modes and simple tasks but not for gaming that stresses the chip.

 

don't run the CPU at those temps for long periods, things crashing means the CPU is thermal throttling to avoid damage, a 4790K needs the BXTS15A aka tall heatsink (or any mid end aftermarket solution)

 

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yours is a compact model made for slim PC cases, it wasn't even shipped with the 4790K so I guess whoever sold it to you decided to keep or lost the big one and give you that

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4 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

yours is a compact model made for slim PC cases, it wasn't even shipped with the 4790K so I guess whoever sold it to you decided to keep or lost the big one and give you that

No, there is only one Boxed Heatsink (OK, two: One with Copper inside, the other full aluminium) and that's the one you see there.

Here a Video about it:

 

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40 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

Well it's ok for idle modes and simple tasks but not for gaming that stresses the chip.

 

don't run the CPU at those temps for long periods, things crashing means the CPU is thermal throttling to avoid damage, a 4790K needs the BXTS15A aka tall heatsink (or any mid end aftermarket solution)

 

 

36 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, there is only one Boxed Heatsink (OK, two: One with Copper inside, the other full aluminium) and that's the one you see there.

 

so this will work right?

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Just now, potatobuilder said:

so this will work right?

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Not Particularly well...

But since you wasted like 250€ or so on an 5 Year old CPU...


I'd look at higher end/better Coolers like an EKL Brocken or something in that area...

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2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

But since you wasted like 250€ or so on an 5 Year old CPU...

I got it for 140€.

 

3 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

I'd look at higher end/better Coolers like an EKL Brocken or something in that area...

ok I'll look it up

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1 minute ago, potatobuilder said:

I got it for 140€.

That's acutally not too bad..

1 minute ago, potatobuilder said:

ok I'll look it up

Brocken 3 is the newest one.

Scythe Ashura I'm not sure about.

Thermalright Macho

be quiet Shadow Rock Slim 

 

Some of those.


Someone might disagree that's just something in the pretty good area that I can think of out of my head.

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2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

That's acutally not too bad..

Brocken 3 is the newest one.

Scythe Ashura I'm not sure about.

Thermalright Macho

be quiet Shadow Rock Slim 

 

Some of those.


Someone might disagree that's just something in the pretty good area that I can think of out of my head.

I'm currently looking at this list - 

 

 

gammax 400 is at Tier 6 - Better Hyper 212's


so i guess Tier 5 - 140mm's & High-End 120mm's will be ok?

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3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

What's your budget and location/currency?

I live in the Philippines, budget will be not over than for 3,000 php or 60$ for now.

if I really need a more budget than that, I can add more next month and use the emaxx 400 for now.

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7 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

D15 is the best on the list there by Noctua.  The Dark Rock Pro 3 is what I'd pick second.  A lot on there I'm not familiar with.

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/cooling-solutions/products/noctua-nh-d15-cpu-cooler  I'd get this next month.

thank you!

 

I think I'll buy this one next month.

 

Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler

 

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7 minutes ago, potatobuilder said:

If you don't mind.. can you pick some cooler you prefer on this list? ?

 

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/cooling-solutions/CPU-Cooler

 

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/cooling-solutions/products/noctua-nh-u12s-performance-cooler

 

The gammaxx 400 is already an excellent cooler but the nh u12 is better.

 

You live in a tropical country so its gonna be pretty hot all the time. A massive heatsink alone isn't gonna be enough. 

 

If your case doesn't have enough airflow it'll overheat anw. 

 

What's your system like?

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3 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/cooling-solutions/products/noctua-nh-u12s-performance-cooler

 

The gammaxx 400 is already an excellent cooler but the nh u12 is better.

 

You live in a tropical country so its gonna be pretty hot all the time. A massive heatsink alone isn't gonna be enough. 

 

If your case doesn't have enough airflow it'll overheat anw. 

 

What's your system like?

My case is Trendsonic Styx ATX.

 

image.jpeg.5a131179413d07efa46fceabffcf9027.jpegImage result for styx fc-st06a

 

fans on the (1)back and (2)top is pushing air out of the case.. the two fans at the front is pulling air from outside the case

 

I'll take a picture of it later when I get home. I'm currently in the office.

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47 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

TBH I missed that one scanning through.  Also, apparently someone at the company messed up.  Look at the dark rock pro 3 listing closely.

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/cooling-solutions/products/bequiet-dark-rock-pro-3-cpu-cooler Isn't that picture the normal 3?  <.<

 

Yea that looks like the non pro version

 

42 minutes ago, potatobuilder said:

My case is Trendsonic Styx ATX.

 

image.jpeg.5a131179413d07efa46fceabffcf9027.jpegImage result for styx fc-st06a

 

fans on the (1)back and (2)top is pushing air out of the case.. the two fans at the front is pulling air from outside the case

 

I'll take a picture of it later when I get home. I'm currently in the office.

 

Do you feel that it has adequate airflow?

 

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