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Make ANY PC Into a Hackintosh!

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What if the Linux and Mac OS are ruining on the same GPU? (I currently have a GTX1050 Ti) I only need Mac for development purposes + I don't own a Macbook but have an ISO...

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9 hours ago, LinusTech said:

Don't forget we used an AMD CPU :)

Zen-platform CPUs have been natively supported solely through Clover patching for a while now, even with overclocks and other exotic modifications.

I'm typing this on such a machine.

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9 hours ago, Kono said:

Sorry but isn't Linus overselling the "any hardware" thing? The reason they didn't went with Mojave is because there is no support for the 1070 in it. And looking at the current situation of the Nvidia/Apple thing it seems rather questionable to make a video with this combo. This is just a supercharged hackintosh. You might have more support for stuff but your part choice still matter.

He is indeed overselling it. While KVM allows the system platform and CPU to be circumvented (CPUID limitations mainly prevent Ryzen from working under macOS), the GPU will always be limited by the availability of kernel extensions (drivers). In this case, a 1070 will not work properly under any circumstances with Mojave until a new kext is built for it.

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Great video. I’m interested in building a machine like this.

 

what parts did you use (motherboard)? I heard you guys say that one instance that the ASC didnt work so you replaced the motherboard. I want to use Intel CPU’s for Windows games and Mac for productivity.

 

thanks

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2 hours ago, sanatsingh said:

What if the Linux and Mac OS are ruining on the same GPU? (I currently have a GTX1050 Ti) I only need Mac for development purposes + I don't own a Macbook but have an ISO...

That's currently not possible due to the limitations of GPU passthrough.

 

Either the host or the guest has exclusive access to a PCIe device at once; the only method of sharing "accelerated graphics" would be for the guest to send graphics commands to the host through an external data path (which isn't possible yet due to a lack of documentation for writing kernel-level graphics drivers).

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I think this is a really creative solution. I have a friend that doesn’t want to buy another Mac but needs Mac exclusive software. I’m gong to recommend this to him.

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I mainly use Mac for software development, do you guys think I can run docker in this? 

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IMHO as a long time Mac OS user the time and effort of building this not worth it if you’re going to use it for work, and in the future you may have many headaches updating it. If you build a pc put Linux or windows in it, if you need to work with Mac OS buy a Mac. If you want to experiment it’s fine.

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2 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

THE ULTIMATE MAC PRO APPLE REFUSES TO MAKE sounds like a great idea o_o (just need to figure out what benchmarks along with cinebench R20 to run on)

 

and to goad the trashcan pro: two Radeon VIIs, LOL

 

or just the cheesegrater pro sleeper once again

 

EDIT: forgot to ask: does it do Airdrop?

AirDrop can be done to a limited degree over Ethernet (to devices on the same network) using some hacks (and a tun/tap), but without a macOS-compatible wireless adapter passed to the guest machine, it won't work as it does on native Macs.

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6 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

do it on a thin and light laptop

or a slightly thicker laptop like the new Legion from Lenovo

is sr-iov possible on a laptop

could you try to run it using sr-iov in order to just use one gpu

I'm not aware of any laptops with SR-IOV support in hardware, only servers.

 

Even with hardware that has SR-IOV, the guest OS has to support the GPU shared interface, which macOS does not provide support for (it would remain unaccelerated).

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10macs 1 pc or 10 macs 1 cpu or 10 macs 1 gpu etc.

do ti please

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3 hours ago, idmb said:

As for what video updates we’d like to see...

 

I did my first hackintosh as a netbook in 2008 back when they were basically the only thing with SSDs. It works great and was very easy, but the updates were hell. 

 

What I think would be “best” would be infrequent updates on how your hackintosh is doing. The clean installs always work pretty well but even with this VM there’s no way you can go 2-3 years with automatic updates before something fails. Once a year video by a staff member who took the pc home and uses it casually? 

Short answer: It will inevitably break just like a normal Hackintosh due to the use of Clover as the kernel bootstrapper.

 

It's generally not a problem if the system is maintained (which is now as simple as swapping files) as the project is continuously updated, and even minor updates (say 10.14.3 -> 10.14.4) will work just fine without any changes.

 

However, in some cases (usually after large kernel changes during major macOS upgrades), Clover will need some fixes to support the latest kernel features, so updating without ever changing Clover or the associated kernel extensions will eventually lead to missing functionality or the inability to boot.

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9 hours ago, MrFixitBlankFace said:

Soooo, what was with the Anthony freeze frame?

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Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this :P 


 

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I'd love to see how bare minimum the host OS can be, if i can do this on say a Ryzen 2400G with most of the resources dedicated to MacOS it'd be a really nice project. 

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14 hours ago, Video Beagle said:

Shanee: Did you use this method in setting up Mojave? Or did you do a full on Hackintosh?

 

(I hackentoshed a Dell Optiplex a bunch of years ago, and it worked well, but oi! :D )

 

No this is a physical install on AMD using the createinstallmedia method from Apple and the default kernel patched from Clover.

Shaneee's Ryzen Pro
Installed Operating Systems:
 macOS Sonoma 14.x - Windows 11 Pro

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X570-F Gaming RAM: 16GB 3200MHz Graphics: ASUS TUF RX 6800 OC
HDD: MP400 1TB - 960 EVO 500GB - Crucial MX500 250GB - 640GB WDC - 500GB WDC

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15 hours ago, Modred189 said:

Alrighty, I am a super noob and am trying to find a good OS for my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro to try something other than Windows. Right now rolling PopOS with some success, but have the itch to try OSx.

 

Anyway, I got through the installation of all the required software and running the kvm service. I have the virtual machine set up with the ISO image and the required clover file. As a linux SUPER noob, this was a big moment for me.

 

However, when I get to the point that it is time to boot the VM, I get an error message (image attached)

 

Any ideas?

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It looks like you might not have the OVMF_VARS.fd file, or else the file path is wrong in your hackintosh XML - Double-check that.

 

13 hours ago, Foxlet said:

Zen-platform CPUs have been natively supported solely through Clover patching for a while now, even with overclocks and other exotic modifications.

I'm typing this on such a machine.

 

He is indeed overselling it. While KVM allows the system platform and CPU to be circumvented (CPUID limitations mainly prevent Ryzen from working under macOS), the GPU will always be limited by the availability of kernel extensions (drivers). In this case, a 1070 will not work properly under any circumstances with Mojave until a new kext is built for it.

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The thing about this method is that you're not limited to a specific platform that may or may not continue to receive support from the hackintosh community. It's true that the virtualized environment is also such a beast, but it's a single platform that supports any combination of system hardware, which should make it more enticing to keep going.

 

As for overselling it, maybe, but we're not actually talking about any specific version, and there are likely going to be GeForce drivers incoming for Mojave anyway. Any CPU with SSE4.1 should be able to run any current macOS release (it's been said that Mojave requires AES instructions, but uh, AFAIK all x86 CPUs with SSE4.1 have AES-NI so...)

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Hi, I created an account to ask this question =)

 

@GabenJr

I have gotten my laptop to previously directly boot into a virtual machine windows hyper-v, where my virtual machine was using the full CPU, GPU and RAM.

My question is whether this is also possible for what you have shown, which would allow say someone with a laptop without a dedicated GPU to directly boot into MacOS and have the option of enabling graphic acceleration (and only thus a useable mac os). You hinted it in the video so I would like to confirm =)

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Hmm, following along, even after making the edit for the resolution in the bios, QEMU just gets stuck at the UEFI Interactive Shell rather than boot the HighSierra.iso.

 

Edit: Never mind, doing this on unraid. appears for whatever reason the qemu_commandline portion got removed. Editted the XML version again via the gui and resolved that. But now I get down to two lines past the Identify Device checksum not implemented, and then I get garbage text with a circle with a line through it.

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On 4/19/2019 at 1:28 PM, GabenJr said:

The thing about this method is that you're not limited to a specific platform that may or may not continue to receive support from the hackintosh community. It's true that the virtualized environment is also such a beast, but it's a single platform that supports any combination of system hardware, which should make it more enticing to keep going.

 

As for overselling it, maybe, but we're not actually talking about any specific version, and there are likely going to be GeForce drivers incoming for Mojave anyway. Any CPU with SSE4.1 should be able to run any current macOS release (it's been said that Mojave requires AES instructions, but uh, AFAIK all x86 CPUs with SSE4.1 have AES-NI so...)

I agree with the first remark. I've documented the KVM technique for High Sierra and Mojave, and that's the very reason I used a KVM setup to debug and develop Ryzen kernels for the AMD enthusiast community.

 

I'll mention the tutorial itself is not up to date, as the Q35 (ICH9) platform in QEMU/KVM works nowadays, adding modern USB and PCIe support which is lacking in the i440FX board.

 

However, it's always good to note the caveats. Not every SSE 4.x CPU will be supported since you've limited yourself to machines that support Intel's VT-X (most) or AMD's SVM (most), but also that have an iommu for PCIe passthrough (less common in older machines). In addition, some FX and Core 2 CPUs will have issues not with the kernel, but with Metal graphics drivers that use new instructions missing with those CPUs (the relevant Core 2-era Macs were dropped in Mojave, so it's not a target anymore).

 

Disk speed is limited to bus emulation (which is less accentuated with SATA controllers) and sometimes sound may suffer from buffer underruns, which is why an USB sound card is useful.

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58 minutes ago, DasTacoMann said:

Hmm, following along, even after making the edit for the resolution in the bios, QEMU just gets stuck at the UEFI Interactive Shell rather than boot the HighSierra.iso.

 

Edit: Never mind, doing this on unraid. appears for whatever reason the qemu_commandline portion got removed. Editted the XML version again via the gui and resolved that. But now I get down to two lines past the Identify Device checksum not implemented, and then I get garbage text with a circle with a line through it.

It's more likely your disk isn't rooting properly, macOS either didn't find the disk or the relevant drivers couldn't probe the device for some reason.

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56 minutes ago, LordHeXD said:

Hi, I created an account to ask this question ?

 

@GabenJr

I have gotten my laptop to previously directly boot into a virtual machine windows hyper-v, where my virtual machine was using the full CPU, GPU and RAM.

My question is whether this is also possible for what you have shown, which would allow say someone with a laptop without a dedicated GPU to directly boot into MacOS and have the option of enabling graphic acceleration (and only thus a useable mac os). You hinted it in the video so I would like to confirm ?

The issue with IGD laptops is that the graphics subsystem is generally not a passable PCIe device due to a lack of an iommu, but if it can be passed, then you could technically unload X and set up the framebuffer and patches needed for Intel Graphics.

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would this still work if we were trying to do it on a laptop???

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9 minutes ago, jshp1111 said:

would this still work if we were trying to do it on a laptop???

Only very specific configurations. Assuming it has an iommu, a dual-GPU laptop using something like Optimus will not work, but one with a discrete graphics switch could possibly work without X11 running. It could also potentially work with an eGPU assuming it's compatible (display output on the card).

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18 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

THE ULTIMATE MAC PRO APPLE REFUSES TO MAKE sounds like a great idea o_o (just need to figure out what benchmarks along with cinebench R20 to run on)

 

and to goad the trashcan pro: two Radeon VIIs, LOL

 

or just the cheesegrater pro sleeper once again

 

EDIT: forgot to ask: does it do Airdrop?

The real hackintoshes work natively. If you follow the guides on the tony website (for example) they work great. IDK why they didn’t go through that route, or why they installed High Sierra.

 

Its easier to and you don’t need to be working within a VM, which I just don’t like.

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11 hours ago, Shaneee said:

 

No this is a physical install on AMD using the createinstallmedia method from Apple and the default kernel patched from Clover.

AH...obviously the Hackintosh world has moved on since I did anything ...7? wow..7 years ago, as AMD wasn't supported then.  Cool!

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