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5 minutes ago, SpiritOfRevenge said:

İts about sale and currency stuff so 1800x is not overpriced at all

 

If all you'll do is game your priority should be the GPU not the CPU.

 

See how much you can save up going with the Ryzen 5 1600 and shift that money into a better GPU like a GTX 1660.

I am trying to get a computer build up and I need to know are these parts good deal or not

Screen 59 Hz 1920x1080

Rx 570 4GB ( no oc )

Ryzen 7 1800x

2x8 3200 megaherzt

600 power supply

AX-370 Gaming Motherboard

 

 

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What will you be using it for?

What specific PSU is that?

What is your budget?

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I will be using it for casual gaming 

I don't have much info for the psu 

My budget its a different currency so let's say middle budget

 

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Is this for gaming only? The Ryzen 7 1800X would be an overpriced choice for a gaming CPU with a RX 570.

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İts about sale and currency stuff so 1800x is not overpriced at all

 

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570 is a bad idea tbh. should get a rx580 at the absolute minimum.

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you should be spending about 1.5x your cpu price on you gpu. do a £150 cpu means a £225 gpu. In your case, it would be fair to pair an 1800x with a gtx 1070 or higher. I would reccomend getting a 2600x and a rx590 or 1070

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4 minutes ago, SpiritOfRevenge said:

I will be using it for casual gaming 

I don't have much info for the psu 

My budget its a different currency so let's say middle budget

 

WTF does middle budget mean?

 

We have people on this forum all over the world, they can help in any currency in any amount.  What's your budget?

 

 

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5 minutes ago, SpiritOfRevenge said:

İts about sale and currency stuff so 1800x is not overpriced at all

 

If all you'll do is game your priority should be the GPU not the CPU.

 

See how much you can save up going with the Ryzen 5 1600 and shift that money into a better GPU like a GTX 1660.

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3500 Turkish Lira ( Budget ) 

I am getting sale for giving away my old parts too

From our Localish seller ( Vatan Computer ) this build is around 6500 Turkish Lira

And I am buying this computer from a 3rd party seller so I dont have much of a variation

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If all you'll do is game your priority should be the GPU not the CPU.

 

See how much you can save up going with the Ryzen 5 1600 and shift that money into a better GPU like a GTX 1660.

I will take a look if these parts are available thanks

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28 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If all you'll do is game your priority should be the GPU not the CPU.

 

See how much you can save up going with the Ryzen 5 1600 and shift that money into a better GPU like a GTX 1660.

Depends on the games.

 

Most MMOs, and a lot of F2P Asian games, care more about single threaded CPU performance, and a high end GPU won't matter unless #1 is met.

 

Same for AAA games, low thread count games will be a stuttering mess

 

Just don't want people to start pairing $400 GPUs with athlon 200s or pentiums and expect good gaming results

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Most MMOs care more about single threaded CPU performance, and a high end GPU won't matter unless #1 is met.

A Ryzen 7 1800X has the same single threaded potential of a Ryzen 3 1200 if matched clock for clock therefore this only furthers prove my point.

1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Same for AAA games, low thread count games will be a stuttering mess

This is for old 2c/4t i3's and 4c/4t i5s, a Ryzen 5 1600 like I have suggested with it's 6c/12t can keep pretty much any game perfectly fed for stable 60fps which is OP's target.

 

2 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Just don't want people to start pairing $400 GPUs with athlon 200s or pentiums and expect good gaming results

Nobody told any one to do this, what was advised was to better balance the build focusing on what's most important for games still, the GPU.

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12 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

A Ryzen 7 1800X has the same single threaded potential of a Ryzen 3 1200 if matched clock for clock therefore this only furthers prove my point.

This is for old 2c/4t i3's and 4c/4t i5s, a Ryzen 5 1600 like I have suggested with it's 6c/12t can keep pretty much any game perfectly fed for stable 60fps which is OP's target.

 

Nobody told any one to do this, what was advised was to better balance the build focusing on what's most important for games still, the GPU.

Your are citing specifics in this reply, but -

 

The green selected post was without context, and if I were someone googling this I might look at your generalized statement, "If all you'll do is game your priority should be the GPU not the CPU."  and just assume it is always the case for everything.

 

I just wanted to point out that isn't always the case. Many people consider free Asian games and MMOs as "casual/potato games" and most of those would run better with more money allocated towards CPU than GPU.

 

There an numerous threads on the WoW forums of people upgrading from 1050s to 2060s with no appreciable gains when it matters (raids), and people who "upgrade" from unlocked i5s to Ryzens only to see performance losses.

 

It depends on the games.

 

 

 

 

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Your are citing specifics in this reply, but -

not really. he is more or less pointing to every game ever. 

4 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

"If all you'll do is game your priority should be the GPU not the CPU."  and just assume it is always the case for everything.

if you go from a position of knowing nothing to something. this is honestly what you should be assuming for almost any PC. too many PCs have super inbalanced CPU to GPU ratio. 

 

like someone buying a 9900k with a 1060 6GB

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18 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

not really. he is more or less pointing to every game ever. 

if you go from a position of knowing nothing to something. this is honestly what you should be assuming for almost any PC. too many PCs have super inbalanced CPU to GPU ratio. 

 

like someone buying a 9900k with a 1060 6GB

It depends on the game.

 

I would 100% rather play WoW, FFXIV, TERA, etc on an OC 9600k and a 1060 than a Ryzen 5 2600 with a 2070.

 

I'd also rather play on a Ryen 3 1200 and a 570 than an FX 8350 and a Vega 64.

 

There are exceptions to the "rule" and just because you don't think they don't exist doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

And "pointing to every game ever" is hyperbole, as there are millions of people playing these MMOs

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

It depends on the game.

 

I would 100% rather play WoW, FFXIV, TERA, etc on an OC 9600k and a 1060 than a Ryzen 5 2600 with a 2070.

 

There are exceptions to the "rule" and just because you don't think they don't exist doesn't mean they don't exist.

exceptions excist. doesnt mean they shouldnt start with the better baseline. nothing is wrong with what he said.

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4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

exceptions excist. doesnt mean they shouldnt start with the better baseline. nothing is wrong with what he said.

And there's nothing wrong with what I said, either. It is true and really depends on the game.

 

I was making a clarifying point and there's no need to attempt to discredit me by me pointing out something missed by a generalized statement.

 

 

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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As an example, I've had guildmates who upgraded their GPUs expecting to improve raid fps only to see no gains at all, and when asked why they made their purchasing choice, it was because "I just thought games needed more GPU, why can't this 1080 ti do 60fps in raids?"

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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