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Linus Scammed? I hope not.... love Linus tech tips! Your thoughts please!

Super fan and love Linus and his amazing team! This post is in support of his dedication to making great content. But.... please note the following...  

 

Super excited about the Century 2.0 case, review, product, and amazing Linus review!

Loved the review and ready to purchase! I would even wait a month or two. 

 

But I feel miss led and a bit scammed from the Century group and their new case. Think that Linus was giving an honest review of a case that would be on the market soon, but no! Linus, do you feel scammed? Please call the out! 

 

See here! Not available until DECEMBER 2019!!!  And MAYBE and as an Indiegogo Launch! Poor form if Linus was not informed.  I trust we would have heard the release date in the review if provided. Linus is that good! 

 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sentry-2-0-evolution-of-console-sized-gaming-case#/

 

So they get the great promotional, for free, was Linus in the dark about this? I think so....

 

Somehow I think Linus would not have made the review 9 months before available. 

 

This is contemporary marketing  MANIPULATION! please comment. Hope together we can promote transparency and truth!

 

 

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Cases need time to produce - there was nothing really irregular about this. LTT often covers material that can take years to get to the consumer.

The Zaber sentry 2 is basically an optimization of their first case. If you're unwilling to wait, you can buy one of their older ones.

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2 minutes ago, Imbellis said:

If you're unwilling to wait, you can buy one of their older ones.

actually there's nowhere to get a Sentry 1.0, I'd love to be able to but it is no longer made, to be replaced by the 2.0.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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The guy who makes them is active on the forum. Long story short. It's HARD to mass produce quality and unique PC cases that aren't $1000 a piece

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23 minutes ago, matthej3 said:

Super fan and love Linus and his amazing team! This post is in support of his dedication to making great content. But.... please note the following...  

 

Super excited about the Century 2.0 case, review, product, and amazing Linus review!

Loved the review and ready to purchase! I would even wait a month or two. 

 

But I feel miss led and a bit scammed from the Century group and their new case. Think that Linus was giving an honest review of a case that would be on the market soon, but no! Linus, do you feel scammed? Please call the out! 

 

See here! Not available until DECEMBER 2019!!!  And MAYBE and as an Indiegogo Launch! Poor form if Linus was not informed.  I trust we would have heard the release date in the review if provided. Linus is that good! 

 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sentry-2-0-evolution-of-console-sized-gaming-case#/

 

So they get the great promotional, for free, was Linus in the dark about this? I think so....

 

Somehow I think Linus would not have made the review 9 months before available. 

 

This is contemporary marketing  MANIPULATION! please comment. Hope together we can promote transparency and truth!

 

 

Manipulation? What did he manipulate lol.

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17 hours ago, matthej3 said:

Super fan and love Linus and his amazing team! This post is in support of his dedication to making great content. But.... please note the following...  

 

Super excited about the Century 2.0 case, review, product, and amazing Linus review!

Loved the review and ready to purchase! I would even wait a month or two. 

 

But I feel miss led and a bit scammed from the Century group and their new case. Think that Linus was giving an honest review of a case that would be on the market soon, but no! Linus, do you feel scammed? Please call the out! 

 

See here! Not available until DECEMBER 2019!!!  And MAYBE and as an Indiegogo Launch! Poor form if Linus was not informed.  I trust we would have heard the release date in the review if provided. Linus is that good! 

 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sentry-2-0-evolution-of-console-sized-gaming-case#/

 

So they get the great promotional, for free, was Linus in the dark about this? I think so....

 

Somehow I think Linus would not have made the review 9 months before available. 

 

This is contemporary marketing  MANIPULATION! please comment. Hope together we can promote transparency and truth!

 

 

 

Linus (as every other reviewer who go the case) was informed that this is going to be crowdfunded, specifically that we're launching campaign soon. It was fairly obvious to anyone who's in tech industry that it's not going to be there right away. Also the price was told to everyone, it's just that bitwit being betwit converted it inaccurately to USD (230 EUR is pretty much 260 USD and not 250 USD as bitwit said).

 

We sent the samples to reviewers specifically for the sake of you, potential clients, not being in the dark about the existence of the case. Between end of the previous campaign and the current one, we had literally hundreds of people mailing us that they did not know about the case being crowdfunded, so we made sure to let people know it's coming. The fact that not everyone said it's going to be crowdfunding campaign was not on our side and in the live stream Linus might have simply forgotten to stress this out.

 

We gave everyone the case with no strings attached, without stating what they have to say, with single requirement: read the manual before making the build and tell people there's info about the manual on the box. That was our single requirement from the reviewers. We were sending them some DM's and mails though when we realised something wasn't clear enough in the manual if they did stuff differently than we expected, so that was our meddling with that, but not too much, I think, just sending them heads up about updates in the manual and notes on hardware picked being incompatible.

 

As for December 2019 deliveries - we've assumed that everyone got used to the fact that crowdfunding takes time, and people want to get actual realistic estimates on when will they get the product rather than being said that they'll get stuff quick and afterwards campaigner will keep saying sorry for being late. Noteworthy is that already three months are taken by campaign itself, funds disbursement from the campaign and order lead times for component manufacturing. So manufacturing time is actually up to 6 months (may be faster, we don't know yet, we have set estimate based on what we know from our previous campaign deliveries).

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17 hours ago, matthej3 said:

Super fan and love Linus and his amazing team! This post is in support of his dedication to making great content. But.... please note the following...  

 

This is contemporary marketing  MANIPULATION! please comment. Hope together we can promote transparency and truth!

There was no offer to purchase this case made by the cases manufacturer, so I'm really not sure what you're on about. Maybe we should all get angry at 9to5mac.com whenever they report on possible leaks of Apple products because they aren't purchasable the moment we hear about them. The case will be ready when it's ready; these things take time. If you have a factory or at least a CNC machine, you can totally get started making your own case.

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Super transparent.... it was visiting you website with a clock count down with no indication to crowd sourcing. If I visited your information and I could see it would be cloud sourced I would have been all in. But a clock to another 9 month wait felt deceptive.  Just my true feeling. Love the case and Linus. Just truly trying to give honest feedback.  I appreciate your response and reaching out to me. If Linus and other discussed the crowd sourcing in the review it would have given me a better senses of expectation and relation to your restraints. Frankly I was soooo excited about your design and felt I did not have an accurate time line and ultimately not communicated to with transparency. Keep up the great work and design excellence. The case is amazing and fits my needs so well. Hope the crowd sourcing goes beyond expectations. 

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7 hours ago, SaperPL said:

 

Linus (as every other reviewer who go the case) was informed that this is going to be crowdfunded, specifically that we're launching campaign soon. It was fairly obvious to anyone who's in tech industry that it's not going to be there right away. Also the price was told to everyone, it's just that bitwit being betwit converted it inaccurately to USD (230 EUR is pretty much 260 USD and not 250 USD as bitwit said).

 

We sent the samples to reviewers specifically for the sake of you, potential clients, not being in the dark about the existence of the case. Between end of the previous campaign and the current one, we had literally hundreds of people mailing us that they did not know about the case being crowdfunded, so we made sure to let people know it's coming. The fact that not everyone said it's going to be crowdfunding campaign was not on our side and in the live stream Linus might have simply forgotten to stress this out.

 

We gave everyone the case with no strings attached, without stating what they have to say, with single requirement: read the manual before making the build and tell people there's info about the manual on the box. That was our single requirement from the reviewers. We were sending them some DM's and mails though when we realised something wasn't clear enough in the manual if they did stuff differently than we expected, so that was our meddling with that, but not too much, I think, just sending them heads up about updates in the manual and notes on hardware picked being incompatible.

 

As for December 2019 deliveries - we've assumed that everyone got used to the fact that crowdfunding takes time, and people want to get actual realistic estimates on when will they get the product rather than being said that they'll get stuff quick and afterwards campaigner will keep saying sorry for being late. Noteworthy is that already three months are taken by campaign itself, funds disbursement from the campaign and order lead times for component manufacturing. So manufacturing time is actually up to 6 months (may be faster, we don't know yet, we have set estimate based on what we know from our previous campaign deliveries).

 
 

 

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Super transparent.... it was visiting you website with a clock count down with no indication to crowd sourcing. If I visited your information and I could see it would be cloud sourced I would have been all in. But a clock to another 9 month wait felt deceptive.  Just my true feeling. Love the case and Linus. Just truly trying to give honest feedback.  I appreciate your response and reaching out to me. If Linus and other discussed the crowd sourcing in the review it would have given me a better senses of expectation and relation to your restraints. Frankly I was soooo excited about your design and felt I did not have an accurate time line and ultimately not communicated to with transparency. Keep up the great work and design excellence. The case is amazing and fits my needs so well. Hope the crowd sourcing goes beyond expectations. 

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I have a case that looks pretty much like this that was free and made in the late 90s... what an inovation lol

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10 hours ago, matthej3 said:

Super transparent.... it was visiting you website with a clock count down with no indication to crowd sourcing. If I visited your information and I could see it would be cloud sourced I would have been all in. But a clock to another 9 month wait felt deceptive.  Just my true feeling.

 

I don't understand what you are saying here. Which website? Theirs? I don't know when you visited, but now it says its being crowdfunded and that they aren't giving out final shipping dates.

 

10 hours ago, matthej3 said:

Love the case and Linus. Just truly trying to give honest feedback.  I appreciate your response and reaching out to me. If Linus and other discussed the crowd sourcing in the review it would have given me a better senses of expectation and relation to your restraints.

 

Linus didn't say anything about it being review. Its literally just showcase of them building in it. Level1 is more review-like, but even with Wendel, you get him saying to go "check it out". It literally means "I like this thing, but you should do your own research". So for me it sounds like you got excited but didn't bother reading the fine print.

 

10 hours ago, matthej3 said:

Frankly I was soooo excited about your design and felt I did not have an accurate time line and ultimately not communicated to with transparency. Keep up the great work and design excellence. The case is amazing and fits my needs so well. Hope the crowd sourcing goes beyond expectations. 

These you should direct toward Dr Zaber. Its their product after all.

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16 hours ago, matthej3 said:
 
 

 

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Super transparent.... it was visiting you website with a clock count down with no indication to crowd sourcing. If I visited your information and I could see it would be cloud sourced I would have been all in. But a clock to another 9 month wait felt deceptive.  Just my true feeling. Love the case and Linus. Just truly trying to give honest feedback.  I appreciate your response and reaching out to me. If Linus and other discussed the crowd sourcing in the review it would have given me a better senses of expectation and relation to your restraints. Frankly I was soooo excited about your design and felt I did not have an accurate time line and ultimately not communicated to with transparency. Keep up the great work and design excellence. The case is amazing and fits my needs so well. Hope the crowd sourcing goes beyond expectations. 

I'm not really sure why are you so angry about this specific thing. Yes, we did not say it's going to be crowdfunded above the clock. The case was crowdfunded for first version, we were talking with others on the forums about crowdfunding and we told reviewers about campaign coming soon. There's a FAQ on our product page answering the question on whether it's going to be in retail stating it'll be crowdfunded as well. Bitwit mentioned it'll be crowdfunded as well etc etc.

 

You could have literally ask us through mail or on the forums/reddit/twitter if Sentry 2.0 was going to be available in retail worldwide, but it seems like you did not bother doing so.

 

12 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

I have a case that looks pretty much like this that was free and made in the late 90s... what an inovation lol

Wait what? One thing is that yes, there could have been cases looking similar on the outside. What we did is the optimisation of layout and space efficiency.

 

Also a free case? How free? Like who gave out a free product like this?

 

I get that it's not obvious why it's something costing $260, but either the case itself makes sense as something new because there are people backing our campaign, or we are doing outstanding job at marketing something that you could get for free in the 90s.

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1 minute ago, SaperPL said:

Wait what? One thing is that yes, there could have been cases looking similar on the outside. What we did is the optimisation of layout and space efficiency.

 

Also a free case? How free? Like who gave out a free product like this?

 

I get that it's not obvious why it's something costing $260, but either the case itself makes sense as something new because there are people backing our campaign, or we are doing outstanding job at marketing something that you could get for free in the 90s.

I got the case as it was about to be thrown out. The outside is about the same size, it can take a dual slot card and an ITX board along with two 3.5 HDDs and an SFX PSU. Think it was a Fujitsu computer

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally)...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ActuallyMediocreOC said:

Am curious about the case aswell ; - ; @Bananasplit_00... photo?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTFTT5cJNCiEam856

That's my best pic of it, the PSU that it comes with isn't SFX but you can throw on in there no problem. Front panel isn't especially similar though

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally)...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTFTT5cJNCiEam856

That's my best pic of it, the PSU that it comes with isn't SFX but you can throw on in there no problem. Front panel isn't especially similar though

This has about as much in common as most tower desktops have in common... I'm confused as to why the sarcasm ; - ;

You're esentially comparing this to this

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25 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

I got the case as it was about to be thrown out. The outside is about the same size, it can take a dual slot card and an ITX board along with two 3.5 HDDs and an SFX PSU. Think it was a Fujitsu computer

The fact that someone was throwing away a case doesn't mean it was free to begin with, that's just random.

19 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTFTT5cJNCiEam856

That's my best pic of it, the PSU that it comes with isn't SFX but you can throw on in there no problem. Front panel isn't especially similar though

Do you realise there's a huge difference in size/volume between this case and Sentry?

 

Also I don't get the similarity apart from the fact that both can be used horizontally and vertically...

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2 minutes ago, SaperPL said:

The fact that someone was throwing away a case doesn't mean it was free to begin with, that's just random.

Anyone that has any balls in most cities could probably get a very similar one by just asking.

3 minutes ago, SaperPL said:

Do you realise there's a huge difference in size/volume between this case and Sentry?

 

Also I don't get the similarity apart from the fact that both can be used horizontally and vertically...

no? internal layout is about the same, size seems about the same, vents are similar

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally)...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Anyone that has any balls in most cities could probably get a very similar one by just asking.

no? internal layout is about the same, size seems about the same, vents are similar

I did not know it's called having balls... Anyway that doesn't mean those were made/sold for free, and doesn't mean you can get exactly the same thing without a problem.

 

Anyway, we have no idea what the layout of this case looks like because you did not show us a photo of the interior or even back of the case. You know what's inside, we don't. Show us a photo of the back if you don't want to tear it down. Cases looking like this were standard, but they had various different layouts. The looks were just the trend.

 

As for the vents being similar - these are round holes. they are not placed similarly as in our case, at least on the photo. Just on one side. What's similar about that? the hole layout? The hole shape? What that has to do with being similar? These are venting holes, something that was tested and optimised by intel long time ago, and there's nothing much you can do about the shape of it.

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