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Vega 56 vs 2060 Which has more bang for its buck?

Lilninjsways

So I had a post a week or 2 back asking about what would be a good graphics card for under 400 usd and it was between the vega 56 and the 2060 I am stuck between these two 

 

I really like the nvidia updater and shadow play but i would rather get a card that games and handles multiple monitors better than just a card that has the software I prefer I would also like a good deal (maybe come with a game or two but it is not a need) I have recently gotten into abunch of battlefield games (have always played them but am now playing it hardcore but only battlefield 4 and 1) along side anthem and division 2 of course I play many different games but those have been my main games at the moment

 

I'd love to play new releases without having to worry about not having the good specs to run it so whatever will also be good for a while without having to worry I would be very very pleased! :)

 

thank you for suggesting models or leaving your recommendations! 

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I would go for the 2060. It is faster out of the box and has much lower power consumption. 

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Just now, Brooksie359 said:

I would go for the 2060. It is faster out of the box and has much lower power consumption. 

I am sorry if this is a stupid question I've never really searched for high end products ( in my opinion) what are the benefits to lower power consumption?

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I was toying with the idea of getting a vega 56 as well, but spec wise the RTX 2060 was hands-on better out of the box, so I got that instead, and I am quite happy with its performance. I should add though, then when I was looking the vega 56 was probably a bit pricier than it is now, so my choice of the RTX was, at the time, a no brainer. Even with the current price reduction of the vega 56, i still think the RTX 2060 is a better choice, especially if you consider future proofing your system. 

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1 minute ago, Lilninjsways said:

I am sorry if this is a stupid question I've never really searched for high end products ( in my opinion) what are the benefits to lower power consumption?

for me as a european i guess around 100 euro's per month on the powerbill extra

 

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1 minute ago, Lilninjsways said:

I am sorry if this is a stupid question I've never really searched for high end products ( in my opinion) what are the benefits to lower power consumption?

It doesn't heat up your room and you dont have to pay as much on your electrical bill. For me not making my room a sauna during the summer is important to me. The vega 56 has a pretty ridiculous heat output. 

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What VEGA are you talking about??

Personally I'd get the VEGA because +2GiB VRAM and in some instances 3 pretty nice games.

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3 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

for me as a european i guess around 100 euro's per month on the powerbill extra

 

Lmfao that is not even close to accurate, 100 euros a month extra to run an Vega 56 over a RTX 2060?

 

If they are the same price I would get the RTX 2060, if Vega is cheaper I would get that, plus you get free games with Vega which helps the value proposition.

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2 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

for me as a european i guess around 100 euro's per month on the powerbill extra

 

coughs a year…. a year!!!! 1 year ;) and maybe 150 ? 

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What's your PSU? YOu need to check and make sure if your PSU has enough wattage to handle either video card. As far as I know, the RTX 2060 has a better TDP than the vega 56, so if you have a sub 500W PSU you may want to go with nVidia (or get a new PSU)

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1 minute ago, ranulph_drywell said:

What's your PSU? YOu need to check and make sure if your PSU has enough wattage to handle either video card. As far as I know, the RTX 2060 has a better TDP than the vega 56, so if you have a sub 500W PSU you may want to go with nVidia (or get a new PSU)

I am pretty sure mine is around 650 I have to double check

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The RTX 2060 is 160w rates and RX Vega 56 is 210w rated, so 50w difference. Power is approx 0.18 euro/kwh.

 

If you are maxing out both cards all day every day, the Vega 56 would use 50w*24h = 1,200w extra in a day. Times that by 365 days in a year = 438,000wh (or 438kwh). 438kwh * 0.18euro = 78.84 euro a year. The Vega 56 would use an extra 78.84 euro of electricity in a year if you ran both cards at 100% utilisation for every single second of the year. So if you for example would game 4 hours per day on average over a year you could divide the 78.84 euro by 6 to get 13~ euro extra per year (again at 100% utilisation though).

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5 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

The RTX 2060 is 160w rates and RX Vega 56 is 210w rated, so 50w difference. Power is approx 0.18 euro/kwh.

 

If you are maxing out both cards all day every day, the Vega 56 would use 50w*24h = 1,200w extra in a day. Times that by 365 days in a year = 438,000wh (or 438kwh). 438kwh * 0.18euro = 78.84 euro a year. The Vega 56 would use an extra 78.84 euro of electricity in a year if you ran both cards at 100% utilisation for every single second of the year. So if you for example would game 4 hours per day on average over a year you could divide the 78.84 euro by 6 to get 13~ euro extra per year (again at 100% utilisation though).

no no no no.... There is also more pressure on the motherboard and the cpu ;) 

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13 minutes ago, Lilninjsways said:

I am sorry if this is a stupid question I've never really searched for high end products ( in my opinion) what are the benefits to lower power consumption?

Generally it means a slightly lower power bill (or a lot lower power bill if electricity is expensive in your country).

4 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

The RTX 2060 is 160w rates and RX Vega 56 is 210w rated, so 50w difference. Power is approx 0.18 euro/kwh.

TDP is not power consumption though.

 

AMD considers power consumption as a different figure which it calls TBP or Typical Board Power.

 

TDP is Thermal Design Power which is how much heat is generated by the graphics card.

4 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

If you are maxing out both cards all day every day, the Vega 56 would use 50w*24h = 1,200w extra in a day. Times that by 365 days in a year = 438,000wh (or 438kwh). 438kwh * 0.18euro = 78.84 euro a year. The Vega 56 would use an extra 78.84 euro of electricity in a year if you ran both cards at 100% utilisation for every single second of the year. So if you for example would game 4 hours per day on average over a year you could divide the 78.84 euro by 6 to get 13~ euro extra per year (again at 100% utilisation though).

Wow, that is expensive electricity.

Just now, Christiaan21-03 said:

no no no no.... There is also more pressure on the motherboard and the cpu ;) 

What do you mean?

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Assuming you PSU has an 80 plus rating, you should be golden for either card. Another thing to consider if whether you want to overclock your GPU at some stage. My Gigabyte RTX 2060 came factory overclocked but I was able to get it running at around 2050 MHz base clock before I started running into instability running benchmarks. I honestly don't know what overclock headroom you would have with a vega 56, but I have the impression the nVidia card is a bit better in that respect. Of course, as Linus says "your mileage may vary". Also, what resolution do you want to run it at? I guess 8gb on the vega would better if you want to game at 4K, but a 6gb card will handle any resolution lower than that without much issue. 

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1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Generally it means a slightly lower power bill (or a lot lower power bill if electricity is expensive in your country).

TDP is not power consumption though.

 

AMD considers power consumption as a different figure which it calls TBP or Typical Board Power.

 

TDP is Thermal Design Power which is how much heat is generated by the graphics card.

Wow, that is expensive electricity.

What do you mean?

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Just now, Christiaan21-03 said:

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No? The CPU is still using as much power as before?

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8 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

The RTX 2060 is 160w rates and RX Vega 56 is 210w rated, so 50w difference. Power is approx 0.18 euro/kwh.

 

If you are maxing out both cards all day every day, the Vega 56 would use 50w*24h = 1,200w extra in a day. Times that by 365 days in a year = 438,000wh (or 438kwh). 438kwh * 0.18euro = 78.84 euro a year. The Vega 56 would use an extra 78.84 euro of electricity in a year if you ran both cards at 100% utilisation for every single second of the year. So if you for example would game 4 hours per day on average over a year you could divide the 78.84 euro by 6 to get 13~ euro extra per year (again at 100% utilisation though).

Although I would agree it likely isn't super significant I would like to note that it will increase the amount of power required to cool your house so it would cost more than simply the difference in power consumption. 

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1 minute ago, ranulph_drywell said:

Assuming you PSU has an 80 plus rating, you should be golden for either card. Another thing to consider if whether you want to overclock your GPU at some stage. My Gigabyte RTX 2060 came factory overclocked but I was able to get it running at around 2050 MHz base clock before I started running into instability running benchmarks. I honestly don't know what overclock headroom you would have with a vega 56, but I have the impression the nVidia card is a bit better in that respect.Of course, as Linus says "your mileage may vary". Also, what resolution do you want to run it at? I guess 8gb on the vega would better if you want to game at 4K, but a 6gb card will handle any resolution lower than without much issue. 

okay I game on a 1080p monitor ( i know these may seem overkill at that resolution but i would like to upgrade to 1440p in the future) i just want to make sure I can run the games :) 

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14 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

Lmfao that is not even close to accurate, 100 euros a month extra to run an Vega 56 over a RTX 2060?

 

If they are the same price I would get the RTX 2060, if Vega is cheaper I would get that, plus you get free games with Vega which helps the value proposition.

Aftermarket 2060 have higher power limit though, depend on model but usually between 180w-190w. 

 

Undervolted Vega 56 actually use 200w and some even lower.

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1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Generally it means a slightly lower power bill (or a lot lower power bill if electricity is expensive in your country).

TDP is not power consumption though.

 

AMD considers power consumption as a different figure which it calls TBP or Typical Board Power.

 

TDP is Thermal Design Power which is how much heat is generated by the graphics card.

Wow, that is expensive electricity.

What do you mean?

and i thought that there was a consensus about TDP anyway ? still the vega rates at 256watt full power non oc and the 2060 at 166w according to Tom's hardware figures @schwellmo92

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Linus, JayzTwocents, Paul's Hardware, etc. ran performance comparisons between the RTX card and others, including the vega 56 when the RTX 2060 was first released. My impression was that the RTX card was better at all resolutions compared to the vega 56. Linus also talks about the bang for your buck. I would check on YouTube for the relevant videos as well. This will likely be helpful to you making your choice.

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1 minute ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

and i thought that there was a consensus about TDP anyway ?

There is? Most people refer to it as how much heat a gpu produces.

1 minute ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

still the vega rates at 256watt full power non oc and the 2060 at 166w according to Tom's hardware figures @schwellmo92

Yes although the 2060 potentially may cost more depending on where you are although in some situations the opposite may be true.

 

If the 2060 is more expensive then the cost of the electricity bill increase is somewhat offset.

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33 minutes ago, Lilninjsways said:

So I had a post a week or 2 back asking about what would be a good graphics card for under 400 usd and it was between the vega 56 and the 2060 I am stuck between these two 

If you could give us the exact pricing and model for both cards that'll be great. 

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3 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

If you could give us the exact pricing and model for both cards that'll be great. 

they gave no models or anything for the 2060 but they did give me a link to the vega 56 and it had very very very poor ratings it was this one ( https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XRqhP6/gigabyte-radeon-rx-vega-56-8gb-video-card-gv-rxvega56gaming-oc-8gd )

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