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Choosing a high-end X470 Motherboard

Hey, Guys. I am in the process of acquiring a new X470 Motherboard as an update to my current X370 Motherboard (check my signature). I have a Ryzen 5 1600 (Will upgrade to a new Ryzen 7 3000 series as soon as they come out) and would like to buy a decent motherboard that provides me with good overclocking options and quality. Currently, my X370 from MSI is doing just fine as it is, but when it comes to overclocking, especially RAM, I can't really do any stable overclocking on RAM at all. I had a 3000MHz kit that would only run at 3066MHz stable, at best, and now have a Samsung B-Die kit that runs at 3200MHz XMP and also can't run it any higher than it (I can change the timings and sub-timings, though). I watched Buildzoid's review on my current motherboard and it was mentioned that the motherboard was indeed very overpriced and will not be the best for overclocking. I know that silicon lottery plays a HUGE part in overclocking, but I also have some issues with the MSI BIOS on my board, one being the voltages either running slightly higher than the set voltage, or reading the voltage wrong, which in either case, is bad, and the fact that I'm not able to set the exact voltage I want. I am only able to, on the CPU, for example, I set it to 1.27, and it sets itself to 1.265 because 1.27 is not really a thing for it. I'm buying a new motherboard so I have a higher quality one with potentially better overclocking abilities ready for my Ryzen upgrade. The two options I'm considering are the ASUS X470 Crosshair VII Hero and the MSI X470 Gaming M7 AC. The MSI is more expensive, but looks better, in my opinion, however, if the BIOS is the same as mine, I'd go for the ASUS. The ASUS, on the other hand, is cheaper, still looks great and has a much better BIOS. What are your guys thoughts on these two boards? I can also accept suggestions for other models. 

 

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My thought is that you should wait for the X570s instead. It's not like the R5 1600 has that much potential for overclocking, and X570 boards could be much better performing than X470 ones. Even if they end up too expensive for you (doubt this since you're talking about flagship boards anyway) they will lower X470 board prices.

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

My thought is that you should wait for the X570s instead. It's not like the R5 1600 has that much potential for overclocking, and X570 boards could be much better performing than X470 ones. Even if they end up too expensive for you (doubt this since you're talking about flagship boards anyway) they will lower X470 board prices.

Thanks a lot for your reply. I don't paying that much for a motherboard, as not only they are better quality and often provide good features, but they also tend to hold up a lot of value when selling used. If you notice, on eBay, higher end boards tend to still be expensive, even used and after a few years. Either way, I'll probably wait for X570 to come out. I guess I'm just curious to find out whether or not the motherboard is limiting my overclocking. 

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7 minutes ago, bruny06 said:

I'm just curious to find out whether or not the motherboard is limiting my overclocking. 

You've got a good board, what makes you think it is?

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To be h onest:
This close before the new Ryzen 3000 series and X570, I wouldn't want to spend too much on a new Motherboard.

And that is as someone who wants a new Board.


The thing is that I expect it to happen within the next 4-6 Weeks, maybe 8. (OK and another couple of weeks for the Boards to be widely available, the price to settle).

 

If you know that and still want a high end Board, go for it...

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13 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

You've got a good board, what makes you think it is?

Well, if you watch Buildzoid's video, while it isn't a bad board, it certainly is overpriced. Also, I have some issues with voltages. The DDR voltage always runs at 0.1V higher than the one set to (I set to 1.35, for example, and it records 1.36) and the voltage increments are a bit too high, meaning you can't set certain values such as 1.269V, for example, and when you set the CPU voltage to 1.27V, it sets itself to 1.265. The voltage control is crap, basically.

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14 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

To be h onest:
This close before the new Ryzen 3000 series and X570, I wouldn't want to spend too much on a new Motherboard.

And that is as someone who wants a new Board.


The thing is that I expect it to happen within the next 4-6 Weeks, maybe 8. (OK and another couple of weeks for the Boards to be widely available, the price to settle).

 

If you know that and still want a high end Board, go for it...

Yeah, I might as well just wait. I'm not desperate, to be honest.

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You already have a X370, like every one mentioned waiting for the X570 release makes better sense than rush and buy a X470, I'd even go as far as get the CPU first and see how it plays out with the X370.

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5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You already have a X370, like every one mentioned waiting for the X570 release makes better sense than rush and buy a X470, I'd even go as far as get the CPU first and see how it plays out with the X370.

I might also do that, as Ryzen 1st gen doesn't have a great memory controller, meaning a new CPU could allow me to overclock RAM better. Also, one of the reasons as to why I'm considering upgrading is the voltage control of the BIOS of my current motherboard. But yeah, I agree, it's best if I wait. Silly post from my part.

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