EU Vote in Favour of Article 13

[Drak3]

7 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Does free speech exist in Europe? 

On paper, yes.

 

In practice, never has, and at this rate, probably never will.

[AlTech]

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[cj09beira]

guess its time to start the portugexit movement

[Retorak]

My biggest concern is geo blocking.
In order to not provide these new rules on their own sites, it could be possible that many websites instead just geo block EU-citizens. Well, we could avoid this with a vpn connection but that's just dumb.

I wish I'd live in canada or somewhere else where the government shares the best of europes systems like free health care.
Who knows, maybe Linus does need a programmer to make his own game where you get points if you drop expensive hardware?
>>Just message me<<

[AlTech]

8 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

guess its time to start the portugexit movement

It looks like there might be an opportunity to have this reversed but I doubt the politicians who voted this in will be willing to change their tone to that of what the people want.

[CiBi]

2 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Most of them barely even know what the internet is, lol

Didn't they refer to a music streaming service that only existed between 2001 and 2003? LOL

[ATFink]

3 hours ago, RejZoR said:

What idiot at EU barn thought this would actually work in any meaningful way?

Sadly it seems not one, but 348 idiots thought this was a good idea.

[jagdtigger]

This is very bad news....

 

 

BTW TF also covered this:

https://torrentfreak.com/eu-parliament-adopts-copyright-directive-including-article-13-190326/

Edited March 26, 2019 by jagdtigger

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

This was merely one step towards turning it into a law.  The big day will be in 2 weeks when the European Council votes. 

I wouldn't be surprised if we in the meantime have another major internet strike like in the SOPA days. 

[Fasterthannothing]

This is the most messed up thing ever who do these people think they are? I am literally seeing the end of the internet right before my eyes holy crap!!

[Chett_Manly]

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Advocates of the directive say it will balance the playing field between US tech giants and European content creators

US tech giants should make a deal with Trump, they will stop targeting conservatives and implement policies that reflect the 1st amendment, if he starts targeting the EU with economic sanctions and defense withdrawal. Time to bend these EU bureaucrats over and spank them.

[DrMacintosh]

Y'all EU people need to stop electing out of touch dudes. 

[peanuts104]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Y'all EU people need to stop electing out of touch dudes. 

It doesn't help that many countries in Europe only have you vote for a party and not a candidate, though I don't know the specifics for election to the EU parliament.  Do EU citizens even have any say who sits on the EU parliament?

[Mihle]

In this case there have been quite a bit of missinformation from both sides.

[cj09beira]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Y'all EU people need to stop electing out of touch dudes. 

last time the turnout was like 36%, even general elections here barely reach 50%, part of the problem is people are not paying attention, the media here isn't much better than us media which certainly doesn't help

[thorhammerz]

4 hours ago, XR6 said:

It's bad enough that it actually got approved in the first place, but IMO the worst part about all this is that the politicians who voted to approve this have absolutely no idea how much this will affect the internet.

The ones writing the legislation (the people who actually do the writing, not the salesmen puppets "elected" into the EU "parliament", which is functionally little more than a rubber stamper) quite likely have a rather good idea of what they're trying to achieve with "legislation" such as this.

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Seems like the beginning of the end of an internet without censorship.

Free speech is great for the masses. Not so great for anyone needing to control information to maintain wealth and power though  (sheep will not revolt if they do not know they can or should revolt in the first place).

[cj09beira]

5 minutes ago, thorhammerz said:

The ones writing the legislation (the people who actually do the writing, not the puppets "elected" into the EU "parliament", which is functionally little more than a rubber stamper) quite likely have a rather good idea of what they're trying to achieve with "legislation" such as this.

Free speech is great for the masses. Not so great for anyone needing to control information to maintain wealth and power though  (sheep will not revolt if they do not know they can or should revolt in the first place).

thats why they started by controlling the media, and now they are going for the alternatives

[thorhammerz]

3 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

thats why they started by controlling the media, and now they are going for the alternatives

Knowledge (or rather, the control thereof) is power. Quite literally. 

[Guest]

RIP @Pewdiepie 

[Ergroilnin]

[Sauron]

Meh, hopefully they'll realize soon enough that it's basically unenforceable and they'll amend it to target what they actually want to get rid of

[Cheezdoodlez]

50 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:

It doesn't help that many countries in Europe only have you vote for a party and not a candidate, though I don't know the specifics for election to the EU parliament.  Do EU citizens even have any say who sits on the EU parliament?

I'm not sure if the voting process differs from country to country. But here in Sweden we can vote on a specific person. 

 

So the process is something like this. The LTT party are running with a list of 20 or so people. They put this in a priority order. 

 

As a voter you can then choose to vote for the LTT party without deciding on a person. Then it defaults to the first name on the list (or if they get two seats the two first names gets in). 

 

But if a majority of people who decided to vote for the LTT party cross in Coltons name, who is last, then he gets the seat. 

[Sauron]

5 hours ago, chiller15 said:

This doesn't look promising, even if the most controversial aspect has been removed (the 'upload filter'). Who knows what the future of content creation is going to be like after this has been implemented and the dust settles.

It hasn't:

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A last-minute proposal to remove the law’s most controversial clause — Article 13 or the ‘upload filter’ — was narrowly rejected by just five votes.

 

[Sakkura]

5 hours ago, XR6 said:

Guess it's time to buy a VPN subscription then..

It's bad enough that it actually got approved in the first place, but IMO the worst part about all this is that the politicians who voted to approve this have absolutely no idea how much this will affect the internet.

Seems like the beginning of the end of an internet without censorship.

A VPN does nothing to mitigate the effects of this.

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, peanuts104 said:

It doesn't help that many countries in Europe only have you vote for a party and not a candidate, though I don't know the specifics for election to the EU parliament.  Do EU citizens even have any say who sits on the EU parliament?

Criticises voting system, promptly admits not knowing anything about said voting system.

 

Brilliant.