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The PSU Tier List can now be found here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-101/

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11 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Brands are meaningless, only models matter.

 

Any brand makes good and bad products, the VS is by no means a good unit.

 

I don't know what "people" you're referring to but usually individual experiences hold little importance on the great scheme of things.

Many people recommend vs series to me and i got one, it fried on first day though. Using thermalake tr2 500w since then (1 year) someone who used only laptops for hos whole life, all this stuff can be very confusing to him.

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1 minute ago, Yuvraj Mann said:

Many people recommend vs series to me and i got one, it fried on first day though. Using thermalake tr2 500w since then (1 year) someone who used only laptops for hos whole life, all this stuff can be very confusing to him.

psu's in general are

 

and the vs line has improved, but is in my opinion still far from ideal because the use of a regulation i'd just leave in the past. tr2 has also shown it's problems

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22 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

psu's in general are

 

and the vs line has improved, but is in my opinion still far from ideal because the use of a regulation i'd just leave in the past. tr2 has also shown it's problems

What kind of problems are we talking about? Since i only know that psu supply power to components, that's it.

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1 hour ago, Yuvraj Mann said:

most of those psus in "dont buy" section, people consider those as good branded psus specially the corsair vs series

 

Well, quite a few of them are very good.  The tier lists issues have been a topic of discussion for some time.

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2 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Brands are meaningless, only models matter.

 

Any brand makes good and bad products,

^This.

1 hour ago, Yuvraj Mann said:

Many people recommend vs series to me and i got one, it fried on first day though. Using thermalake tr2 500w since then (1 year) someone who used only laptops for hos whole life, all this stuff can be very confusing to him.

It's a shame how much miss-guidance there is out the in regards to choosing a PSU, which also happens to be one of the most important components. I see it all the time on PC enthusiast Facebook groups, people recommending PSUs based on brand "anything by Seasonic or EVGA." is common, or "anything gold rated". >_<

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10 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

^This.

It's a shame how much miss-guidance there is out the in regards to choosing a PSU, which also happens to be one of the most important components. I see it all the time on PC enthusiast Facebook groups, people recommending PSUs based on brand "anything by Seasonic or EVGA." is common, or "anything gold rated". >_<

To be fair if there is a "buy anything x" brand it would be Seasonic.

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2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

To be fair if there is a "buy anything x" brand it would be Seasonic.

oh, I've seen many others named a lot

 

evga, corsair, seasonic, superflower

 

and heck, even lepa sometimes

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2 hours ago, OrionFOTL said:

I struggle to find any detailed testing of FSP Hydro GE ?

 

Slightly slanted components are ok.

looks like it actually doesn't work anymore, unfortunate but I was curious about it anyway so judging by what i've seen about the fsp hydro ge it doesn't seem to be too bad. I'll just buy another one

 

thanks for the help, I might post it on johnnyguru's forums to see if someone else there has something to say

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Any feedback on the this SilverStone Strider Gold S 650W Fully-Modular. I currently have an i5-9400F and an rx 480 but I'm about to buy an rx 5700 next year. I wanted to buy from the focus series but it's got some bad feedbacks on it. I checked pcpartpicker and I don't see any builds related to it.

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17 minutes ago, PauloRegala said:

Any feedback on the this SilverStone Strider Gold S 650W Fully-Modular. I currently have an i5-9400F and an rx 480 but I'm about to buy an rx 5700 next year. I wanted to buy from the focus series but it's got some bad feedbacks on it. I checked pcpartpicker and I don't see any builds related to it.

I believe that's a Tier A unit. Should be more than good enough. Wattage is plenty for that system, even with a 5700.

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5 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

out of THIS tier d, you name them to me

 

I'm curious now

Gotta poke that bear huh.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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1 hour ago, PauloRegala said:

btw this is the model i'm referring to below. i'm confused if this is the tier a strider gold or tier b strider gs

 

https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=813&area=en

Ah, that's the GS from Tier B. It's fine though. I'd still use it. ;)

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Phanteks AMP 750 review, Seasonic Focus Plus Gold https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/phanteks-amp-750-power-supply-review/

 

KitGuru reviewer Zardon claims it's a "modified" Focus: "This power supply is a Seasonic Design – a modified Focus Plus Gold unit.", but they didn't explain how they think it is modified, and I don't see it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ They didn't bother with identifying any components either, so I wonder how they concluded it's modified.

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20 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

They didn't bother with identifying any components either, so I wonder how they concluded it's modified.

I was going to be a smartass and say something like "It has Phanteks written on the transformer, that's how it's modified"... But nope, not even that.

Only difference I spot between the two is the Seasonic is using Nippon Chemi-con primary hold up cap while the Phantex is using Rubycon caps, but that's not a modification. Besides that I'd have no way of telling the difference between the two just by looking at them. At least the Asus Strix based off the same platform is easy to spot with its ROG heatsinks and black PCB.

 

On the bright side looking at Newegg US prices the 550W Phanteks Amp ($90) is currently $10 cheaper than the Focus Plus Gold ($100). So I guess if you're in the market for a Focus Plus Gold you can save $10 and just buy the Phanteks instead? The 650W and 750W models are priced the same as Seasonic.

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22 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

This power supply is a Seasonic Design – a modified Focus Plus Gold unit

the only thing that comes to mind is that it's based off the GX, but i haven't checked that

 

if you want to yourself, there are shots on Seasonic's website

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The PSU Tier List can now be found here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-101/

My Systems:

Main - Work + Gaming:

Spoiler

Woodland Raven: Ryzen 2700X // AMD Wraith RGB // Asus Prime X570-P // G.Skill 2x 8GB 3600MHz DDR4 // Radeon RX Vega 56 // Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB M.2 SSD // Deepcool DQ650-M // chassis build in progress // Windows 10 // Thrustmaster TMX + G27 pedals & shifter

F@H Rig:

Spoiler

FX-8350 // Deepcool Neptwin // MSI 970 Gaming // AData 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 // 2x Gigabyte RX-570 4G's // Samsung 840 120GB SSD // Cooler Master V650 // Windows 10

 

HTPC:

Spoiler

SNES PC (HTPC): i3-4150 @3.5 // Gigabyte GA-H87N-Wifi // G.Skill 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 // Asus Dual GTX 1050Ti 4GB OC // AData SP600 128GB SSD // Pico 160XT PSU // Custom SNES Enclosure // 55" LG LED 1080p TV  // Logitech wireless touchpad-keyboard // Windows 10 // Build Log

Laptops:

Spoiler

MY DAILY: Lenovo ThinkPad T410 // 14" 1440x900 // i5-540M 2.5GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD iGPU + Quadro NVS 3100M 512MB dGPU // 2x4GB DDR3L 1066 // Mushkin Triactor 480GB SSD // Windows 10

 

WIFE'S: Dell Latitude E5450 // 14" 1366x768 // i5-5300U 2.3GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD5500 // 2x4GB RAM DDR3L 1600 // 500GB 7200 HDD // Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon

 

EXPERIMENTAL: Pinebook // 11.6" 1080p // Manjaro KDE (ARM)

NAS:

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Home NAS: Pentium G4400 @3.3 // Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 // 2x 4GB DDR4 2400 // Intel HD Graphics // Kingston A400 120GB SSD // 3x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 HDDs in RAID-Z // Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000w PSU // Antec Performance Plus 1080AMG // FreeNAS OS

 

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