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The PSU Tier List can now be found here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-101/

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2 hours ago, Spinbot said:

G1+, GQ, G2, P2, and T2 are all in the same tier.

mostly fixed in next update, and g2, p2 and t2 are single rail

 

2 hours ago, Spinbot said:

CX is in the same tier as CXm. 

also fixed in next update

 

2 hours ago, Spinbot said:

MWE Gold above CX. 

 

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18 hours ago, Spinbot said:

You can identify the protection IC from the photos? 

I couldn't find it, but the supervisor IC alone isn't enough to tell you if the protections work.

 

16 hours ago, Tzztr Rrtr said:

Why? ?

Because it's subjective and has inconsistent sorting methodology.

 

Depending on a person's situation they may value different traits of the PSU.

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3 hours ago, Rexper said:

I couldn't find it, but the supervisor IC alone isn't enough to tell you if the protections work.

Then how can you guess the protections? :D

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1 hour ago, Spinbot said:

Then how can you guess the protections? :D

 If I understand correctly, each model of supervisor IC allows for certain protection features, and you can know which ones the PSU doesn't have if the supervisor doesn't support them.

 

However you can buy a supervisor that supports some features and not enable them, not include the necessary components for them.

 

Someone more knowledgeable can answer this better though.

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

Computer Specs:

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Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333

Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

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38 minutes ago, Energycore said:

 If I understand correctly, each model of supervisor IC allows for certain protection features, and you can know which ones the PSU doesn't have if the supervisor doesn't support them.

That was in response to Rexper's original comment, when he stated that he could guess the protections the PSU had, while not knowing what the supervisor IC was. But by now I'm probably beating a dead horse. 

 

Also the PSU can have protections that the IC doesn't support. For example, OEMs get an IC that doesn't support OTP but they integrate it via the fan controller. 

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Hi guys, my 1st post, torn between this PSU, which is better?

 

MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX
AMD R5 2600 + NOCTUA L12S
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT V2 Single Rank grau DDR4-3000 DIMM CL15 Dual Kit
POWERCOLOR RX580 8GB
BE QUIET 801
TRANSCEND 370 256GB

 

550W enough or 650W to be on safe side?

 

ANTEC High Current Gamer HCG750 750W 80PLUS Gold (0-761345-11638-1) 105€
Antec High Current Gamer HCG650 80Plus Gold - 650 Watt 0-761345-11632-9 98€
Corsair RMX Series RMX650 - 650W CP-9020091-EU 117€ most expensive
Seasonic Focus GX 80 Plus Gold, modular - 650W FOCUS-GX-650 95€

Seasonic Focus GX 80 Plus Gold, modular - 550W FOCUS-GX-550 108€
Super Flower Leadex III 80PLUS Gold, modular - 550W SF-550F14HG 85€ cheapest
Super Flower Leadex III 80PLUS Gold, modular - 650W SF-650F14HG 98€

 

want highest TIER, longest warranty....and quality.

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2 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

Corsair RMX Series RMX650 - 650W CP-9020091-EU 117€ most expensive

probably the best, but a bit high priced

 

3 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

Super Flower Leadex III 80PLUS Gold, modular - 550W SF-550F14HG 85€ cheapest

probably your best choice valuewise

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Will be enough for system or have some 100-150W to spare?

 

BeQuiet 801 case with 6 x 140mm fans.

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3 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

Will be enough for system or have some 100-150W to spare?

more than sufficient here, no need for much headroom in my opinion

 

3 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

BeQuiet 801 case with 6 x 140mm fans.

fans don't pull much

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What would be a good psu upgrade from a 750 B2 ? Running an R5 1600 with a RTX 2060. Just want something that's more power efficient.

Specs

 

CPU: R5 1600

GPU : EVGA RTX 2060 XC

RAM: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB 2400Mhz

MB: GIgabyte AB350M

Storage: x1 Saamsung 850 evo 256GB SSD x1 Toshiba P300 3TB HDD

PSU: EVGA 750 B2

Case: Apevia X-Sniper2-BL

Laptops T430,T440p

 

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17 minutes ago, Sol9 said:

What would be a good psu upgrade from a 750 B2 ? Running an R5 1600 with a RTX 2060. Just want something that's more power efficient.

depends completely on your budget and what is available for you

 

so what is at your budget around 550w?

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21 minutes ago, Sol9 said:

What would be a good psu upgrade from a 750 B2 ? Running an R5 1600 with a RTX 2060. Just want something that's more power efficient.

Why would you care about the efficiency...? You're fine. 

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8 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

EVGA G2 750W ok PSU? I can get it for 70€, around 1.5 yr old.

Don't buy a used PSU. If you need anywhere near 750W, spending even €250 on a PSU shouldn't be an issue. If spending a lot of money on a PSU is an issue, you don't need anywhere near 750W. 

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I hear that a lot, wonder why is the issue? What do people do with older ones, then? Threw them away?

With active 8+ yrs warranty?

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22 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

I hear that a lot, wonder why is the issue? What do people do with older ones, then? Threw them away?

With active 8+ yrs warranty?

Warranties are generally not transferrable at all. For G2 750W, the second hand warranty is 3 years from the original purchase from EVGA or an authorised reseller. So if the product is 2 years old, you get a one year warranty. 

You don't know how the product has been used when you buy used. For all you know, someone could have been mining on it with an 850W ASIC at 45°C ambient 24/7. 

And again, why would you want to buy a used 750W PSU?

35 minutes ago, seon123 said:

If you need anywhere near 750W, spending even €250 on a PSU shouldn't be an issue. If spending a lot of money on a PSU is an issue, you don't need anywhere near 750W. 

 

:)

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makes sense, so 10yrs only for the primary buyer/owner.

 

Super Flower Leadex III 80PLUS Gold, modular - 550W SF-550F14HG 85€ cheapest
Super Flower Leadex III 80PLUS Gold, modular - 650W SF-650F14HG 98€ - want some headroom :)

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My config

 

Ryzen 3600
MSI b450 Tomahawk MAX
GTX 970
x2 ddr4 8gb
x2 1tb 7200rpm
x1 SSD
x3 FAN

Next year I want to update GPU > rtx3060-3070.

 

I want to buy Be quiet Pure power 11 600w, will it be enough? Would it almost always be loaded? Or should I wait until 700w becomes available.

 

ps sorry for my english, i use google translate :)

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6 hours ago, seon123 said:

Why would you care about the efficiency...? You're fine. 

Probably just going to keep using the 750 B2 thanks.

Specs

 

CPU: R5 1600

GPU : EVGA RTX 2060 XC

RAM: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB 2400Mhz

MB: GIgabyte AB350M

Storage: x1 Saamsung 850 evo 256GB SSD x1 Toshiba P300 3TB HDD

PSU: EVGA 750 B2

Case: Apevia X-Sniper2-BL

Laptops T430,T440p

 

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I cannot believe the sheer amount of disrespect y'all are putting on the Seasonic S12 / M12 series. I have used them exclusively for years now building PC's and have had 0 issues. My most recent build had a M12II Evo 520W powering an i9-9900k, a 1080 ti, 3 ssds, 5 fans, rgb led lighting strips, etc. just fine with absolutely no issues. I have multiple friends with similar builds and the same PSU with no issues. I have built several machines with these power supplies during my previous time of employment at a computer repair shop. 0 issues. I've had nothing bad to say about their power supplies whatsoever.

 

/rant

 

But seriously, downgrading PSU's entire tiers because of a fan bearing type or type of internal cabling or external cabling is just plain moronic. It's showing new PC builders that you need to have a $100+ power supply to get your computer powered effectively. Which is simply not true.

 

I'm not an engineer but damn it when I use a product and its been good to me time and time again, I will continue to use and even recommend the product.

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2 hours ago, tyson.b said:

I cannot believe the sheer amount of disrespect y'all are putting on the Seasonic S12 / M12 series. I have used them exclusively for years now building PC's and have had 0 issues. My most recent build had a M12II Evo 520W powering an i9-9900k, a 1080 ti, 3 ssds, 5 fans, rgb led lighting strips, etc. just fine with absolutely no issues. I have multiple friends with similar builds and the same PSU with no issues. I have built several machines with these power supplies during my previous time of employment at a computer repair shop. 0 issues. I've had nothing bad to say about their power supplies whatsoever.

 

/rant

 

But seriously, downgrading PSU's entire tiers because of a fan bearing type or type of internal cabling or external cabling is just plain moronic. It's showing new PC builders that you need to have a $100+ power supply to get your computer powered effectively. Which is simply not true.

 

I'm not an engineer but damn it when I use a product and its been good to me time and time again, I will continue to use and even recommend the product.

 

I have been trying to tell them that for a month now.  It's dead reliable.  The AK47 of power supplies. Before it was a budget PSU, it was the unit you purchased to power SLI, Crossfire, Pentium EE systems, overclocked Thuban X6,  Overclocked Core 2 Duo's and Core I7's, overclocked Bulldozer FX chips, and everything in between, all of which drew a LOT more power than today's systems do. That's where its stellar reputation came from.  Powering hard core gaming machines for over a decade and powering them reliably, just like it does today. You can't fake that kind of performance or reputation. It may not be the best PSU anymore, but it's damn reliable. Most veterans know that already.   I suspect the problem on this board is a large number of posters in their teens and early 20's who know nothing about it.

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4 hours ago, 666Nybras666 said:

My config

 

Ryzen 3600
MSI b450 Tomahawk MAX
GTX 970
x2 ddr4 8gb
x2 1tb 7200rpm
x1 SSD
x3 FAN

Next year I want to update GPU > rtx3060-3070.

 

I want to buy Be quiet Pure power 11 600w, will it be enough? Would it almost always be loaded? Or should I wait until 700w becomes available.

 

ps sorry for my english, i use google translate :)

There are better options than BQ PP11. At least in my country, you can get Bitfenix WhisperM cheaper, Corsair TXM cheaper, SeaSonic Core GM cheaper, than PP11. 

 

Location? Budget? 

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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3 hours ago, tyson.b said:

But seriously, downgrading PSU's entire tiers because of a fan bearing type or type of internal cabling or external cabling is just plain moronic.

i don't do that

 

i tiered it down because it's a 9 year old platform, uses group regulation, lacks 12v undervoltage protection and I'm seriously concerned about your 5v rail with that config

 

where did you even conclude that from?

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