2080 or used 1080 ti?

[djpabz23]

I've been wanting to upgrade my 980 ti and I wasn't too sure which card I should upgrade to. 

I was checking out r/hardwareswap and I've seen a few used 1080 ti's popping up for about $600-$650 while you can get a brand new 2080 for around $699.

I'm aware that the 1080ti has more VRAM and no raytracing, but I'm just worried it won't last as long compared to a new card.

 

Which would be the best card to get?

[Shreyas1]

I wouldn't worry too much about the life of the cards as long as they were used properly and not mining 24/7 or something.

 

The 2080 is only worth it if you play games with raytracing and intend to use the feature 

[Mira Yurizaki]

Ignoring the expected lifespan factor, the 1080 Ti would be a better for things as they stand now.

 

Though if you like to keep up with the latest and greatest and thus, would want to have access to that technology in the future, then the 2080 would be better.

[Acid Panda]

well i think it depends if ray tracing really takes off and is supported by devs. and if you care about it

1080ti and 2080/ti all perform in a relatively similar form.

 

i would go for the 1080ti personally since it absolutely performance proven and power efficient for what it it.

plus for less you can go for SLI and get great performence. (in game that support it)

[djpabz23]

12 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

I wouldn't worry too much about the life of the cards as long as they were used properly and not mining 24/7 or something.

 

The 2080 is only worth it if you play games with raytracing and intend to use the feature 

 

11 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Ignoring the expected lifespan factor, the 1080 Ti would be a better for things as they stand now.

 

Though if you like to keep up with the latest and greatest and thus, would want to have access to that technology in the future, then the 2080 would be better.

If I do decide to go for an EVGA 1080 ti, does the warranty transfer over?

[Jurrunio]

I prefer 2080 personally, even $100 isn't much on a high end card compared to knowing what the card has been through imo. On 2080 especially, you'd want that warranty because all Turing cards are prone to artifacting.

[djpabz23]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I prefer 2080 personally, even $100 isn't much on a high end card compared to knowing what the card has been through imo. On 2080 especially, you'd want that warranty because all Turing cards are prone to artifacting.

The 2xxx cards are still facing problems to this day?

[Mira Yurizaki]

8 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

If I do decide to go for an EVGA 1080 ti, does the warranty transfer over?

As EVGA puts it: "The warranty covers the product, not the person." Which means yes.

 

https://www.evga.com/articles/00671/

[Jurrunio]

44 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

The 2xxx cards are still facing problems to this day?

Yes. Even 1660ti is still doing it.

[djpabz23]

4 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Yes. Even 1660ti is still doing it.

One last question, I plan on playing at 1080p on a 144hz monitor. I currently have a 4690k but plan on buying a used 4790k shortly. Will the 4790k hold back the 1080ti or the 2080 if I decide to go for one of those?

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

One last question, I plan on playing at 1080p on a 144hz monitor. I currently have a 4690k but plan on buying a used 4790k shortly. Will the 4790k hold back the 1080ti or the 2080 if I decide to go for one of those?

depends on the game but it is possible. Also check the prices, 4790k used can sometimes cost more than 8600k new, in that case there's no reason to stay on the old platform even though new platform requires new board and memory.

[djpabz23]

15 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

depends on the game but it is possible. Also check the prices, 4790k used can sometimes cost more than 8600k new, in that case there's no reason to stay on the old platform even though new platform requires new board and memory.

That's the thing, buying new RAM + board would be out of my budget unless I stick with the 980ti.

[xg32]

34 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

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the 4790k will likely hold back both cards, but for 50dollars more on a new 2080, buying a 1080 ti would be ridiculous, the 2080 is actually a bit faster and on some newer games like apex/division 2 it blows the 1080 ti out of the water.

 

Assuming it's the same performance (which it isn't), a used card would be about 25% off, which would price the 1080 ti at about 525-550 at most regardless of what ebay prices are.

[djpabz23]

Just now, xg32 said:

the 4790k will likely hold back both cards, but for 50dollars more on a new 2080, buying a 1080 ti would be ridiculous, the 2080 is actually a bit faster and on some newer games like apex/division 2 it blows the 1080 ti out of the water.

Should I aim for a lower tiered card? Like a 2070 or a 2060 and use the remaining money to buy a new-gen chip, board, and RAM? Or should I stick with the 4790k and just get the 2080 as I would be getting warranty?

[xg32]

2 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

Should I aim for a lower tiered card? Like a 2070 or a 2060 and use the remaining money to buy a new-gen chip, board, and RAM? Or should I stick with the 4790k and just get the 2080 as I would be getting warranty?

for 1080p 144hz the 2060 is likely enough unless u play on max. 2070 is just a terrible deal which is about 12% faster than the 2060. I think if u plan on sticking with the monitor, i'd go with the 2080 then save up some more and upgrade to zen 2 whenever you feel like it, since upgrading to a 2060 and the cpu atm would leave u with 2 meh parts. You could also go with the 2060 now and zen 2 later.

[Jurrunio]

28 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

That's the thing, buying new RAM + board would be out of my budget unless I stick with the 980ti.

then stay with the 4690k and build up the budget again. I didn't rule this out.

[i_build_nanosuits]

980ti is absolutely flawless for 1080p gaming...no upgrade needed for you this generation..

[djpabz23]

17 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

980ti is absolutely flawless for 1080p gaming...no upgrade needed for you this generation..

I want to be able to take advantage of my 144hz monitor though, if that's even possible. In the newer games, I get around 60fps on max except on the last 2 Assassins Creed, I get usually 40-50 fps on those.

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

In the newer games, I get around 60fps on max except on the last 2 Assassins Creed, I get usually 40-50 fps on those.

Use high frequency memory and lower settings to high preset then. My desktop (spec in signature) can do 75fps average and don't dip below 60.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, djpabz23 said:

I want to be able to take advantage of my 144hz monitor though, if that's even possible. In the newer games, I get around 60fps on max except on the last 2 Assassins Creed, I get usually 40-50 fps on those.

i5-4690K will hold your framerates back a fair amount in some games so if you're not reaching your desired performance your CPU might be your issue because the GTX 980ti can easily achieve high framerates at 1080p...At 1080p with nicely tweaked high settings, ultra textures...some low cost anti-aliasing and you should be good to go...i had one for 1440p and it was doing amazing in BF1 for example, this was shot on the machine:

 

 

(THIS IS 2560x1440p ultra preset with 980ti)

 

You could try to optimize and overclock your CPU and memory...but you need more threads than 4 for many modern games.

 

I had a 4770K 4.3ghz just a month ago now i got the 8700K because even overclocked 4c/8t will run hard in battlefield 5 multiplayer and modern ubisoft open world games (looking at you far cry 5 and AC)

 

If i was you...i would wait for next gen AMD Ryzen CPU's to launch which is in just a couple months i think.

Then upgrade your CPU/ram/board and sell what you have online.

 

Then sell the 980ti and buy a better GPU and a VR headset and maybe even a new 1440p 27'' high refresh rate monitor...

[ch3w2oy]

Zotac 2080 for $659 with 3 games. This actually makes it the same price as a used 1080 ti (a cheaper one, anyway). Good looking games, too. Take it from me, I just bought and sold my 1080 ti Aorus Xtreme within 2 days.

https://www.theverge.com/good-deals/2019/3/6/18253134/devil-may-cry-5-microsd-cards-rtx-2080-amazon-deals-sale

 

I just ordered one. If I didn't already have the 3 games AMD is offering I would have gotten the Radeon VII. I really wanted a VII, too..

[i_build_nanosuits]

8 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Zotac 2080 for $659 with 3 games. This actually makes it the same price as a used 1080 ti (a cheaper one, anyway). Good looking games, too. Take it from me, I just bought and sold my 1080 ti Aorus Xtreme within 2 days.

https://www.theverge.com/good-deals/2019/3/6/18253134/devil-may-cry-5-microsd-cards-rtx-2080-amazon-deals-sale

 

I just ordered one. If I didn't already have the 3 games AMD is offering I would have gotten the Radeon VII. I really wanted a VII, too..

He need a better CPU and monitor to take advantage of such a GPU...doesn't make sense.

OP is using a core i5 and a 1080p monitor...

 

$659 you say? If YOU had a GTX 980ti...would rather overclock it and get this before a new GPU? ...personally i would

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($164.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $689.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-06 21:57 EST-0500

 

Sell core i5-4690K with motherboard and memory, keep 1080p monitor for secondary display

[ch3w2oy]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

He need a better CPU and monitor to take advantage of such a GPU...doesn't make sense.

 

I mean, I would upgrade my other components too..

 

He can always upgrade the other components later, too.

 

I was just answering his question and throwing that deal out there for anyone else that may be interested.. I just went through a similar dilemma myself..

[djpabz23]

1 hour ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

He need a better CPU and monitor to take advantage of such a GPU...doesn't make sense.

OP is using a core i5 and a 1080p monitor...

 

$659 you say? If YOU had a GTX 980ti...would rather overclock it and get this before a new GPU? ...personally i would

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($164.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $689.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-06 21:57 EST-0500

 

Sell core i5-4690K with motherboard and memory, keep 1080p monitor for secondary display

I forgot to mention that I'm running 2 1080p monitors, I apologize for leaving that out.

58 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

I mean, I would upgrade my other components too..

 

He can always upgrade the other components later, too.

 

I was just answering his question and throwing that deal out there for anyone else that may be interested.. I just went through a similar dilemma myself..

Okay, let me ask you this....

If you had $1,000 to spend, this being the only chance you have of upgrading for next 3+ years, and had this build:

• CPU
  Intel i5 4690k Devil's Canyon
• Motherboard
  MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
• RAM
  16GB Avexir Core Series DDR3 - 2400
• GPU
  EVGA GeForce GTX 980Ti SC+ AXS 2.0+
• PSU
  EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80+ Gold 750W

   

  What would you upgrade?

[Cereal5]

12 minutes ago, djpabz23 said:

Okay, let me ask you this....

If you had $1,000 to spend, this being the only chance you have of upgrading for next 3+ years, and had this build:

• CPU
  Intel i5 4690k Devil's Canyon
• Motherboard
  MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
• RAM
  16GB Avexir Core Series DDR3 - 2400
• GPU
  EVGA GeForce GTX 980Ti SC+ AXS 2.0+
• PSU
  EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80+ Gold 750W

   

  What would you upgrade?

Wait for Zen 2 and get one of those CPUs, and think about a GPU upgrade then. Most likely a 1080 Ti, since they're about $500 used. You should be able to sell your parts for a decent price also. You can keep the PSU, it's a nice high quality unit. All together, a GPU, CPU, MoBo, and 16GB of RAM would probably come out to $900-1000 and then subtract whatever you get for your old parts. That said, no point in buying such a high end GPU if you only have a 1080p or 1440p 60Hz monitor. A 980 Ti would be perfect for those resolutions.