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How about another Ryzen 3000 leak? Just for fun.

Go to solution Solved by Fasauceome,

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14059/amd-3rd-gen-ryzen-threadripper-in-2019

More via anandtech, I'm hyped for mobile improvements. Combined with the new open source nature of Thunderbolt (now USB4) we could see some serious market shakeup.

 

this notebookcheck article has a lot to add

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Our-first-AMD-Ryzen-5-3550H-benchmarks-are-in-and-they-give-Intel-s-Core-i5-8300H-a-run-for-their-money.412698.0.html

What I find especially useful is that AMD's integrated graphics solution is so much more effective than Intel's and in a laptop, what's all that PCIe gonna go towards anyways? Might as well use x8 for graphics.

Source:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-specification-price,38731.html

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Singaporean retailer Bizgram recently published a product catalog featuring some surprising newcomers: the Ryzen 3000 series. These CPUs have not been officially announced yet, although these specific model names have been leaked before. 

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More interesting are the CPUs listed, which are identical not only in name but also in the order listed in AdoredTV's leak last year. It's hard to say what's happened here with this listing. Perhaps Bizgram just copied the rumored spec sheet and guessed what pricing would be. Or these CPUs could be authentic, Bizgram accidentally published them in this listing, and AdoredTV's leaked spec sheet is accurate up to model names and prices. Everyone would like for this rumor to be true, but given how little AMD has talked about Ryzen 3000, it's hard to make any sort of judgment at this stage.

What I find unique about this list is how precise and sensible the pricing is for the products. The only parts of these lists I've had doubts about due to the speculative nature is the Navi integrated graphics solution for the G models. Everything else we know about the new Ryzen stuff like what was demoed at CES shows serious promise, and the new efficiency of the Zen 2 microarchitecture will hopefully let up on that tough voltage curve and give overclockers a bit more room. These leaks seem really credible if I'm being honest.

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33 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

 

Also @fasauceome your title says "Ryzen 300 leak", not "Ryzen 3000 leak"

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I want this to be true very much. I'm glad that it matches AdoredTv's leaks that predicted the 3700X at 5Ghz:

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Highly recommend his channel. Excellent analysis of Ryzen 3000 likely specs.

Pricing of this leak is about $50 higher at $379 but even then it would be a killer CPU and for sure my next upgrade.

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Here's hoping it's all true. Lord knows I need this...

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that's twice now, bizgram o_o

 

Late Edit: info in OP is now bunk (source: CES Keynote announcement). Disregard all details from this source (Bizgram) this time round

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In case that document gets removed here is the price list:
AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 3 3300.............151
AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 3 3300G..........196

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 3 3300X..........196

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 5 3600.............271

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 5 3600G......... 303

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 5 3600X......... 349

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 7 3700........... 455

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 7 3700X..........501

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 9 3800X......... 684

AMD Ryzen.............................................Ryzen 9 3850X..........760

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I mean this would be awesome. Though I kinda expect prices more in line what we've had with Ryzen in general. 

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so in the price list (prices in SGD after imports and tax)

  • TR 2920X (12c24t): $944
  • "R9 3800X": $684
  • "R9 3850X": $780

so far the rumors speak at most of a dual-die 12-core Ryzen 3000 CPU (out of a theoretical max of 16 cores). There's a chance the 3850X could be a higher clocked 3800X, but not sure if it's over a 100SGD price premium (vs an actual 16-core part)

 

could be just copying adored too, so...

 

EDIT: the previous leak(?) on 9th gen intel was pretty close to US SRP prices, but i'm going to have to confirm if those were adoredtv numbers, and also what are the local street prices of those CPUs now

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10 hours ago, CommandMan7 said:

Pricing of this leak is about $50 higher

Pricing of this leak is in Singaporean Dollars, not USD. (1 USD = 1.36 SGD)

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okay preface: couldn't find any leak videos from adoredtv regarding intel 9th gen, so I missed the mark there ,_,

 

anyway: Bizgram might be on to something here, since the previous time they did this, they pretty much matched SRP pricing for the 9th gen CPUs ._.

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for reference: a later post from videocardz, although all the prices were above SRP. not sure if preorder placeholder prices or EU import taxation o_o

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and for scoring: this table on wikipedia

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so I guess the numbers in the OP might be worth a look. or at least some form of reference to speculate other aspects upon

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Intel is screwed huehue. Apple ditching intel, AMD crushing intel on desktop and gaining server share.  Intel's FOVEROS stacking wont help them in the server space. I still dont understand their DRAM stacking on chips idea. Maybe those will be low power SOC for laptops and Microsoft stuff, since apple wont use them and neither will desktop people it seems pointless to me.

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me wantey

 

Would be pretty sick to have that many cores on a consumer cpu.

Guess I better start saving up lol.

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40 minutes ago, yian88 said:

Intel is screwed huehue. Apple ditching intel, AMD crushing intel on desktop and gaining server share.  Intel's FOVEROS stacking wont help them in the server space. I still dont understand their DRAM stacking on chips idea. Maybe those will be low power SOC for laptops and Microsoft stuff, since apple wont use them and neither will desktop people it seems pointless to me.

I watched a video on that, Apparently the idea is to reduce latency and increase memory bandwidth to allow for super fast computation, which would be a game changer. Right now Intel and Ryzen offer 16MB of cache, thats not a whole lot compared to system RAM. The video was suggesting upwards of a gig of cache.... thats the game changer. 

 

The problem I have with this approach is, even if it works, whats the price gonna be like, Cause I can't see the yield rates being too high. Intel is already known to have yield problems with its 10nm die shrink, while AMD is looking at a launch of Q2-Q3 of its 7nm die shrink. Stacking a bunch of memory on top? yikes. And then there is heat. I can't imagine that its going to do the CPU or memory to have to pass the heat through the memory to the heatsink. Low power, ok. but high end workloads where CPU's can reach 70s-80s, I can't imagine that doing wonders for the memory. And then how long before the chip fails because the memory its shot and keeps crashing the computer. 

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5.1Ghz 16 cores is nice. I will be getting that

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USD price numbers once more (not doing import & tax removal estimate, because prices of Ryzen 2000 from Bizgram is quite close o_o except for threadripper though)

 

note: numbers from eKatalog (a retailer in russia) has been referenced by WCCF and Adored (Ryzen CES release schedule guesses are wrong; Adored's late interpretation change to Ryzen 3000 being monolithic before CES is wrong), so salt it up

EDIT: other way around. Adored got the numbers and the other two picked it up. my bad.

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
Z1 APU R3 2200G  4c4T G 3.2 / 3.6 99 <-  
Z1 APU R5 2400G  4c8T G 3.6 / 3.9 169 <-  
R5 2600 (Zen+)  6c12T 3.4 / 3.9 199  
R7 2700 (Zen+)  8c16T 3.2 / 4.1 299  
Z+ APU R3 3300G  6c12T? G 3.0 / 3.8 [145] 130
Z+ APU R5 3600G  8c16T? G 3.2 / 4.0 [224] 200

if pricing holds true, the core count increase might be a thing

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R3 2300X 4c4T 3.5 / 4.0 OEM LOL  
Zen 2 R3 3300 6c12T? 3.2 / 4.0 [112] 100
Zen 2 R3 3300X 6c12T? 3.5 / 4.3 [145] 130

not enough Ryzen 2000 data i guess ._.

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R5 2600 6c12T 3.4 / 3.9 199  
R5 2600X 6c12T 3.6 / 4.2 229  
Zen 2 R5 3600 8c16T? 3.6 / 4.4 [200] 180
Zen 2 R5 3600X 8c16T? 4.0 / 4.8 [258] 230

an unnamed 8c16T Ryzen 3000 part was demoed against the 9900K (with MCE enabled; $490-$500 SRP), so if this is an R5 part I'd be mildly surprised actually ._.

my baseless guess would still be on this being an R7 part (AMD can't possibly be splitting the 9900K in two?), but time will tell

 

current 10th gen intel rumors (super super super casual mention) point to desktop parts holding up to 10 cores, so splitting the difference for all the stacks like 9th gen... kinda checks out for both parties?

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R7 2700 8c16T 3.2 / 4.1 299  
R7 2700X 8c16T 3.6 / 4.1 329  
Zen 2 R7 3700 12c24T? 3.8 / 4.6 [336] 300
Zen 2 R7 3700X 12c24T? 4.2 / 5.0 [370] 330

Price probably checks out, but with the comment I made earlier I'm still reserving judgement

 

    c/t GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R7 2700X 8c16T 3.6 / 4.1 329  
TR 1900X 8c16T 3.8 / 4.0 549  
TR 2920X 12c24T 3.5 / 4.3 649  
TR 2950X 16c32T 3.5 / 4.4 899  
Zen 2 R9 3800X 16c32T?! 3.9 / 4.7 [505] 450
Zen 2 R9 3850X 16c32T?! 4.3 / 5.1 [561] 500

my initial guess would be Ryzen capping out at 12 cores, but if it's indeed 16 cores, there might be core-count increases for the lowest end Threadripper 3000. a 16c32t TR3000 part costing 700-770 USD would be too easy (also 16 cores over 8 dies? would they go back to spacers over 4 dies? (6 spacers would be too much I think o_o))

 

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10 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

my initial guess would be Ryzen capping out at 12 cores, but if it's indeed 16 cores, there might be core-count increases for the lowest end Threadripper 3000. a 16c32t TR3000 part costing 700-770 USD would be too easy (also 16 cores over 8 dies? would they go back to spacers over 4 dies? (6 spacers would be too much I think o_o))

In terms of a product stack, I feel like it makes no sense to cannibalize the HEDT line so early in Zen's life, but from a technological standpoint, the dual chiplet space does allow for 16 cores so it would be a waste to artificially reserve core count.

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17 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

 

note: numbers from eKatalog (a retailer in russia) has been referenced by WCCF and Adored 

 

Wait, what? Adored numbers as you link to there was not from a retailer. It was from someone contacted Adored directly, but wanted to be anonymous (he says), most likely from a board partner or AMD itself, but no one knows exept maybe Adored. The eKatalog thing happened AFTER adored leak.

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19 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

my initial guess would be Ryzen capping out at 12 cores, but if it's indeed 16 cores, there might be core-count increases for the lowest end Threadripper 3000. a 16c32t TR3000 part costing 700-770 USD would be too easy (also 16 cores over 8 dies? would they go back to spacers over 4 dies? (6 spacers would be too much I think o_o))

With the new architecture there is no need to go to 8 Dies, you can do that with whatever you like.

Most likely it would be 4 Dies with 4 Cores each.

 

Because they have a central I/O Die with the Memory Controllers, SATA and the other stuff to wich you connect the dies to.

 

And AMD already demonstrated that you don't need all the dies for it to work at CES.

 

So a 1 Die Threadripper would also be possible :)

But I'd say that they go Threadripper from 16-32 Cores, just like this time.

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23 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

In terms of a product stack, I feel like it makes no sense to cannibalize the HEDT line so early in Zen's life, but from a technological standpoint, the dual chiplet space does allow for 16 cores so it would be a waste to artificially reserve core count.

I'm kinda looking from EPYC/Threadripper's standpoint though.

... actually if they do a 2x8c ryzen compared to a possible 4x4c threadripper, they could price the TR up just for using two extra functional dies o_o

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12 isn't that far actually (8 cores per die, and then 6 active cores to make the 12)

and the least they'll bin would be that for a R3, which is rumored to be 6c12t (I'd be more than willing to believe they'd still do 4c8t, or maybe 6c6t). I doubt they'll make 2c dies for use in threadripper

if the R3 still has 4 cores, that'll make a 4x4c threadripper (16c32T with 4 spacers) which is still doable. I doubt they'd be using 8c chips on their lowest model threadripper (also 6 spacers o_o)

 

and if we do go with 6c bits, then it'll be 4x6c (24c48t with 4 spacers), and/or 8x6c (48c96t no spacers) CPUs (which... that number of cores on a "consumer"-side HEDT scares me actually o_o I think AMD wouldn't want to drop-in full 64 cores for threadripper so soon o_o)

 

either way I'm looking forward to August/September/etc

 

19 minutes ago, Mihle said:

Wait, what? AdoredTVs numbers as you link to there was not from a retailer. It was from someone contacted Adored directly, but wanted to be anonymous (he says), most likely from a board partner or AMD itself, but no one knows exept maybe Adored. The eKatalog thing happened AFTER adored leak.

oh whoops LOL ,_, editing in a bit

 

8 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

With the new architecture there is no need to go to 8 Dies, you can do that with whatever you like.

Most likely it would be 4 Dies with 4 Cores each.

 

Because they have a central I/O Die with the Memory Controllers, SATA and the other stuff to wich you connect the dies to.

 

And AMD already demonstrated that you don't need all the dies for it to work at CES.

 

So a 1 Die Threadripper would also be possible :)

But I'd say that they go Threadripper from 16-32 Cores, just like this time.

 

I can't imagine a threadripper with... 7 spacers? o_o (although if TSMC is to have yield issues on their 7nm fab down the road I think there might not be a choice ._.)

 

.... actually they could leave 4 positions empty and not have to use that many spacers.... yeah I think that makes more sense

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8 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

and if we do go with 6c bits, then it'll be 4x6c (24c48t with 4 spacers), and/or 8x6c (48c96t no spacers) CPUs (which... that number of cores on a "consumer"-side HEDT scares me actually o_o I think AMD wouldn't want to drop-in full 64 cores for threadripper so soon o_o)

 

If they do 64 core Threadripper, I bet it will definitely come out way later than the other ones.

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6 minutes ago, Mihle said:

If they do 64 core Threadripper, I bet it will definitely come out way later than the other ones.

I'd believe if they point to next year even ._. although 2020 is when development on the AM4 socket would run out (not sure if Jan or Dec ._.), so kinda unsure if TR4 would follow suit or just stay around for one more year

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44 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

I'd believe if they point to next year even ._. although 2020 is when development on the AM4 socket would run out (not sure if Jan or Dec ._.), so kinda unsure if TR4 would follow suit or just stay around for one more year

epyc socket sp3 is confirmed to stay the same until zen 3, so threadripper should do the same 

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Honestly, if the 3700X comes to be a 12c/24t CPU, then I wonder how cheap the Threadripper parts could get. I could use the 16c/32t one.

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On 3/3/2019 at 12:30 PM, VegetableStu said:

USD price numbers once more (not doing import & tax removal estimate, because prices of Ryzen 2000 from Bizgram is quite close o_o except for threadripper though)

 

note: numbers from eKatalog (a retailer in russia) has been referenced by WCCF and Adored (Ryzen CES release schedule guesses are wrong; Adored's late interpretation change to Ryzen 3000 being monolithic before CES is wrong), so salt it up

EDIT: other way around. Adored got the numbers and the other two picked it up. my bad.

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
Z1 APU R3 2200G  4c4T G 3.2 / 3.6 99 <-  
Z1 APU R5 2400G  4c8T G 3.6 / 3.9 169 <-  
R5 2600 (Zen+)  6c12T 3.4 / 3.9 199  
R7 2700 (Zen+)  8c16T 3.2 / 4.1 299  
Z+ APU R3 3300G  6c12T? G 3.0 / 3.8 [145] 130
Z+ APU R5 3600G  8c16T? G 3.2 / 4.0 [224] 200

if pricing holds true, the core count increase might be a thing

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R3 2300X 4c4T 3.5 / 4.0 OEM LOL  
Zen 2 R3 3300 6c12T? 3.2 / 4.0 [112] 100
Zen 2 R3 3300X 6c12T? 3.5 / 4.3 [145] 130

not enough Ryzen 2000 data i guess ._.

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R5 2600 6c12T 3.4 / 3.9 199  
R5 2600X 6c12T 3.6 / 4.2 229  
Zen 2 R5 3600 8c16T? 3.6 / 4.4 [200] 180
Zen 2 R5 3600X 8c16T? 4.0 / 4.8 [258] 230

an unnamed 8c16T Ryzen 3000 part was demoed against the 9900K (with MCE enabled; $490-$500 SRP), so if this is an R5 part I'd be mildly surprised actually ._.

my baseless guess would still be on this being an R7 part (AMD can't possibly be splitting the 9900K in two?), but time will tell

 

current 10th gen intel rumors (super super super casual mention) point to desktop parts holding up to 10 cores, so splitting the difference for all the stacks like 9th gen... kinda checks out for both parties?

 

    core/thread GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R7 2700 8c16T 3.2 / 4.1 299  
R7 2700X 8c16T 3.6 / 4.1 329  
Zen 2 R7 3700 12c24T? 3.8 / 4.6 [336] 300
Zen 2 R7 3700X 12c24T? 4.2 / 5.0 [370] 330

Price probably checks out, but with the comment I made earlier I'm still reserving judgement

 

    c/t GHz/boost USD [Bizgram] ATV est
R7 2700X 8c16T 3.6 / 4.1 329  
TR 1900X 8c16T 3.8 / 4.0 549  
TR 2920X 12c24T 3.5 / 4.3 649  
TR 2950X 16c32T 3.5 / 4.4 899  
Zen 2 R9 3800X 16c32T?! 3.9 / 4.7 [505] 450
Zen 2 R9 3850X 16c32T?! 4.3 / 5.1 [561] 500

my initial guess would be Ryzen capping out at 12 cores, but if it's indeed 16 cores, there might be core-count increases for the lowest end Threadripper 3000. a 16c32t TR3000 part costing 700-770 USD would be too easy (also 16 cores over 8 dies? would they go back to spacers over 4 dies? (6 spacers would be too much I think o_o))

 

... i need sleep

 

Adored originally claimed they would be chiplet based, but then received a further leak, (which other news outlets claimed to have got independently as well), stating it would be monolithic.

 

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