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help on choosing Ram 2400Mhz 10C vs 3200Mhz 16c

Hi!
Just sold my old PC and building a new one from scratch, chose almost all parts but the choice of RAM makes my head spin.

My setup is going to be: i9-9900k, Z390 Asus MEG ACE, 1080 Seahawk.

I've my eye on the following ram:
 

  1. Corsair Dominator Platinum (4x8gb) 2400Mhz, C10
  2. Corsair Dominator Platinum (2x16gb) 3200Mhz, C16

I'm not planning to OC like crazy, just a bit in few years if the will start lacking. 
The Majority of Load will be coming from Gaming. 

Do I need Dominator at all, or should i just take the LPX? I was looking at G.skill Trident, but people on forums say they are less reliable.

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Dominator if your going for hard OC, as it is tested for stability, has massive heatsink.

 

other than that the LPX is the better choice.

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3 minutes ago, Sobeit said:

Dominator if your going for hard OC, as it is tested for stability, has massive heatsink.

 

other than that the LPX is the better choice.

Heatsink is useless unless you are pushing 1.6v+

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3 hours ago, Destined02 said:

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dominator is just overpriced stuff, especially at 2400 or 3200, but out of those 2, i'd go with the 2x16 3200 cl16, for motherboard, i'd look at the gigabyte boards instead of the ace.

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Thank you all for the reply. I guess i'll go for LPX then. 

Any comments on G.Skill 3200C14 vs Dominator 3200c16?  (taking into account i'm not planning to OC much anytime soon and looking for a stable but fast box performance) 

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C16 at 3200MHz is "garbage", but, the units themselves are probably still B Die & they're just set uber-conservatively from the factory.

 

Personally, I'd go for G.Skill, make sure you're getting a kit that's compatible with your motherboard and on it's QVL list, and go for that.  Some nice CL14 3200MHz or CL16 3600MHz would do nicely.

 

I would also look in to whether or not your board prefers 2 or 4 DIMMs being populated.  Mine actually prefers all 4 DIMMs be populated, especially from RAM overclocking purposes (there's a long explanation on why, has to do with the pathways from the CPU to the RAM having less noise when all of them are populated vs 2 being empty).

 

Corsair & G.Skill are both great RAM brands, and most of their top-tier sets are all the higher-quality stuff you'd want for future overclocking. 

 

The only thing "unreliable" about either of them is that people buy the sticks with crazy-fast speeds & expect them to work on their board, when, in reality, Corsair or G.Skill has only tested those sticks to work on a few... and I do mean a few (1-3 most of the time), motherboards, at those speeds & timings.  If you're buying "Normal" kits and using them normally, they're going to work 99% of the time, even regardless of whether or not they're actually on the board's QVL or not.

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RAM: 4x8GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3600MHz CL16 (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR) @ 4000MHz CL17 1.42V

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So I've decided to take the G.Skill Trident 2x16gb 3200Mhz c14 (didn't take the 3600Mhz c15 since the only came in 4x8Gb here) 

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This might be too late but, I would say to get the 2400MHz CL10 kit, due to higher bandwidth

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3 hours ago, FrostBittn said:

This might be too late but, I would say to get the 2400MHz CL10 kit, due to higher bandwidth

Bandwidth is the rated speed.  So bandwidth would be 3200MHz.  

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5 hours ago, Destined02 said:

So I've decided to take the G.Skill Trident 2x16gb 3200Mhz c14 (didn't take the 3600Mhz c15 since the only came in 4x8Gb here) 

I haven't seen a 3600CL15 4x8GB kit before.  Glad to know they're out there.  

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11 minutes ago, nick name said:

Bandwidth is the rated speed.  So bandwidth would be 3200MHz.  

Bandwidth is the rated speed divided by the latency. So 2400/10=240, and 3200/16=200. The 2400MHz CL10 kit has more bandwidth

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1 hour ago, FrostBittn said:

Bandwidth is the rated speed divided by the latency. So 2400/10=240, and 3200/16=200. The 2400MHz CL10 kit has more bandwidth

I'm not certain I've heard anyone refer to that calculation as determining bandwidth.  I get what you're saying now.  

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2 hours ago, FrostBittn said:

Bandwidth is the rated speed divided by the latency. So 2400/10=240, and 3200/16=200. The 2400MHz CL10 kit has more bandwidth

True but the kit he's getting now is 3200MHz CL14, which means it's likely B-Die and if he ever decides to push the RAM it will end up being "better". 

 

After my experience with this 3600MHz CL16 kit I think I'll be buying middle of the road kits from now on. 

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CPU: Intel i9-9900K @ 5GHz 1.31V ~  Mobo: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master

CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Floe RGB 280mm AIO (Push/Pull with Thermaltake Riing & Pure fans)

RAM: 4x8GB G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3600MHz CL16 (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR) @ 4000MHz CL17 1.42V

GPU: eVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra @ Stock (for now)

PSU: eVGA SuperNova P2 1200W - Case: Thermaltake View 91

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4 hours ago, nick name said:

I'm not certain I've heard anyone refer to that calculation as determining bandwidth.  I get what you're saying now.  

I've seen a few people on overclocking forums give that example, but I first heard it from Buildzoid

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Just now, FrostBittn said:

I've seen a few people on overclocking forums give that example, but I first heard it from Buildzoid

I'm familiar with the formula, but not referring to it in reference to bandwidth.  And, honestly, I didn't recognize you were speaking of it in your earlier post.  At first read I thought you were simply saying that 2400MHz meant more bandwidth so that's my fault.  

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1 minute ago, nick name said:

I'm familiar with the formula, but not referring to it in reference to bandwidth.  And, honestly, I didn't recognize you were speaking of it in your earlier post.  At first read I thought you were simply saying that 2400MHz meant more bandwidth so that's my fault.  

Ah, I see. No worries

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