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R5 2600 VS R7 1700

I'm going to upgrade my PC and I wanted to know weather the R5 2600 or the R7 1700 would be a better choice.
I have an RX480 8GB and I'll probably upgrade to the RTX 2060 or the 1660ti in the future.
I have a 1080p 144hz monitor, I mostly play eSports like overwatch and Fortnite but I want to play indie games and AAA games too(something like no man's sky)
I'm also going to get into Game Development and Machine learning (but that will take me a lot of time because I Neel to learn calculus, linear algebra and need to get good with python)
I don't stream but I do record a few clips so that I can show them to my friends. I'm not very much into Photoshop or video editing but I want to get into it.
Oh and BTW I am going to overclock both of them and my memory is rated at 3200mhz it probably won't run at that speed but I will loosen the timings a bit and try to make it work.
I have an MSI B350M gaming pro motherboard
Any help would be appreciated

Thanks,
Some random guy on the internet :)

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both equally good choices, some tasks favour the newer R5, some the older R7. Get the cheaper CPU.

 

7 minutes ago, Midniteb0ne said:

I have an MSI B350M gaming pro motherboard

My top nominee for crushing it with a hydraulic press

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

both equally good choices, some tasks favour the newer R5, some the older R7. Get the cheaper CPU.

 

My top nominee for crushing it with a hydraulic press

Ik it is a shit mobo but I have budget limitations and my bro is giving it to me for free so I can't complain.

Both of the processors are of the same price.

And would the R7 be capable of 1080p 144 Hz gaming with a 1660ti/2060?

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Get the 1700

tge single core bonus of The 2600 is a few fps ?  10 max right ? 

 

1700 is 4 extra threads which will allow it to stay relevent longer 

much better for streaming ect

 

make sure u oc both of them tho 

1700 easy 3.9

2600 4/4.1 ish 

-13600kf 

- 4000 32gb ram 

-4070ti super duper 

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10 hours ago, Midniteb0ne said:

Ik it is a shit mobo but I have budget limitations and my bro is giving it to me for free so I can't complain.

Both of the processors are of the same price.

And would the R7 be capable of 1080p 144 Hz gaming with a 1660ti/2060?

get the R7. not much of a performance jump from 1k gen to 2k gen Ryzen. hopes are up for a big jump to 3k Ryzen

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CPU: R5 1600 @ 4.2 GHz; GPU: Asus STRIX & Gigabyte g1 GTX 1070 SLI; RAM: 16 GB Corsair vengeance 3200 MHz ; Mobo: Asrock Taichi x470; SSD: 512 gb Samsung 950 Pro Storage: 5x Seagate 2TB drives; 1x 2TB WD PurplePSU: 700 Watt Huntkey; Peripherals: Acer S277HK 4K Monitor; Logitech G502 gaming mouse; Corsair K95 Mechanical keyboard; 5.1 Logitech x530 sound system

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1 minute ago, Cryptonite said:

get the R7. not much of a performance jump from 1k gen to 2k gen Ryzen. hopes are up for a big jump to 3k Ryzen

The 1st gen Ryzen is heavily discounted rn and I'll have to get a lower tier 3rd gen Ryzen processor.

Thanks :)

 

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6 minutes ago, Midniteb0ne said:

Ik it is a shit mobo but I have budget limitations and my bro is giving it to me for free so I can't complain.

Both of the processors are of the same price.

And would the R7 be capable of 1080p 144 Hz gaming with a 1660ti/2060?

depends on the game, but 1st gen Ryzen is just inferior to 2nd gen when it comes to pushing raw fps. Even for the same frequency and having more cores. I don't regard Ryzen as a good 144 fps gaming CPU for more demanding games, but it should hit somewhere between 80 to 100fps before you start getting CPU bottlenecks.

 

5 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

tge single core bonus of The 2600 is a few fps ?  10 max right ? 

it can go up to 20% because 2nd gen Ryzen has much lower latency on the infinity fabric side.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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10 hours ago, Midniteb0ne said:

The 1st gen Ryzen is heavily discounted rn and I'll have to get a lower tier 3rd gen Ryzen processor.

Thanks :)

 

exactly why I'm telling you about the low performance jump for the current 2 ryzen gens. 1st gen Ryzens are cheap even here in South Africa which is why I recommend it to most people. R3 2nd gen vs R5 1st gen? the R5 wins on a super budget

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CPU: R5 1600 @ 4.2 GHz; GPU: Asus STRIX & Gigabyte g1 GTX 1070 SLI; RAM: 16 GB Corsair vengeance 3200 MHz ; Mobo: Asrock Taichi x470; SSD: 512 gb Samsung 950 Pro Storage: 5x Seagate 2TB drives; 1x 2TB WD PurplePSU: 700 Watt Huntkey; Peripherals: Acer S277HK 4K Monitor; Logitech G502 gaming mouse; Corsair K95 Mechanical keyboard; 5.1 Logitech x530 sound system

 01000010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01100101 01110011 01101110 00100111 01110100 00100000 01101101 01100001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110000 01110010 01101111 00101110

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

depends on the game, but 1st gen Ryzen is just inferior to 2nd gen when it comes to pushing raw fps. Even for the same frequency and having more cores. I don't regard Ryzen as a good 144 fps gaming CPU for more demanding games, but it should hit somewhere between 80 to 100fps before you start getting CPU bottlenecks.

 

it can go up to 20% because 2nd gen Ryzen has much lower latency on the infinity fabric side.

Do u have link ?  

-13600kf 

- 4000 32gb ram 

-4070ti super duper 

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