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Im looking to buy a 2060, but i cant justify the price jump from my 1060 3gb to the 2060.

In Norway the cheapest 2060 card jumped to 3900,- from 3700,- (20$ price jump) over a month.

When will cards like this maybe come on sale or drop to the pricing Nvidia came out with (3900NOK is 450$, 2060 was set to 350$(?) )

 

Note that Norwegian taxes is 25% (which is the price difference)

doesn't other countries operate with any taxes on electronics?

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I pay 7.5% sales tax where I live in the states.

 

How much is a Vega 56 or 64 for you?

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Why not look at the used market? You may be able to get a GTX 1070Ti or 1080 for the same price.

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6 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

I pay 7.5% sales tax where I live in the states.

 

How much is a Vega 56 or 64 for you?

56 is basically the same as a 2060 in price, 64 is way too high..

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4 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Why not look at the used market? You may be able to get a GTX 1070Ti or 1080 for the same price.

I really like being able to return a card if it breaks, as it just happened to my 1060 3gb from Zotac...

Using international warranty for ASUS(example) will take a month to get a new card if it breaks.

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Dont see price cuts coming. AMD's "response" is hardly competitve so Nvidia can charge as much as they desire.

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Dont see price cuts coming. AMD's "response" is hardly competitve so Nvidia can charge as much as they desire.

Not very helpful for me, but whats the current 2060 price where you are?

Just curious

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13 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Not very helpful for me, but whats the current 2060 price where you are?

Just curious

I'm in British Columbia of Canada. Taking taxes into consideration then 2060 cost about $500 CAD which is $375 USD. 1070ti and 1080 both cost more than this back then, so good deal for people in my region. I only play at 1080p so I dont care about 2GB less memory

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm in British Columbia of Canada. Taking taxes into consideration then 2060 cost about $500 CAD which is $375 USD. 1070ti and 1080 both cost more than this back then, so good deal for people in my region. I only play at 1080p so I dont care about 2GB less memory

It seems like you are knowledgeable on this topic, so when i have your attention i'll just ask.

I got a i5 7400- non k and is upgrading from a 1060 3gb to anything from Rx580-GTX1070 or RTX2060. a 580 is worth what i get in credit from my broken 1060 and a 1070/2060 is about 1500NOK (230CAD) more expensive.

And in the future i would like to play in 144hz. Would i need anything more than a 580 for 144hz considering my i5?

16gb of ram of course, it if even matters

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3 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

It seems like you are knowledgeable on this topic, so when i have your attention i'll just ask.

I got a i5 7400- non k and is upgrading from a 1060 3gb to anything from Rx580-GTX1070 or RTX2060. a 580 is worth what i get in credit from my broken 1060 and a 1070/2060 is about 1500NOK (230CAD) more expensive.

And in the future i would like to play in 144hz. Would i need anything more than a 580 for 144hz considering my i5?

16gb of ram of course, it if even matters

What games are we talking about here?

 

Is RX 590 reasonably priced? 1070's like nope, it's slower than 2060 and doesnt have RTX features at all, no reason to buy it at that price.

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

What games are we talking about here?

 

Is RX 590 reasonably priced? 1070's like nope, it's slower than 2060 and doesnt have RTX features at all, no reason to buy it at that price.

Assetto Corsa, Forza, Battlefield 1, Anthem i guess (dont have a gpu rn :P), Assasins Creed,Maybe modded Skyrim, Dirt 2.0, Cyberpunk

 

The 590 is only 10% better than 580, so i dont know if its worth it.. 

 

Note: A used 1070 is about 100-120CAD cheaper than new, and we always have 5 year warranty on stuff like that by law in Norway.

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1 hour ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

56 is basically the same as a 2060 in price, 64 is way too high..

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A sortlist of the last 18 months GPU value from best to worst

 

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Pricing is all wrong, we have 25% tax over here :D :D :D :D :D 

Also, there is only 1 card under 400$ there!

Otherwise that website is great, i'm just afraid of bottlenecking..

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12 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Assetto Corsa, Forza, Battlefield 1, Anthem i guess (dont have a gpu rn :P), Assasins Creed,Maybe modded Skyrim, Dirt 2.0, Cyberpunk

Mid range cards like the RX 590 wont be very good at 144fps average for these games. Even 100fps means cutting down quality (I mean, even the well optimized Dirt 4 needs it). You'd better aim higher.

 

14 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

The 590 is only 10% better than 580, so i dont know if its worth it.. 

Seeing the games you listed, no.

 

14 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Note: A used 1070 is about 100-120CAD cheaper than new, and we always have 5 year warranty on stuff like that by law in Norway.

but a month for an RMA is just frustrating isn't it?

 

I have a 1070 and it plays high settings in most games I played (Watch dogs 2, Assassin's Creed Origins, Dirt 4, Project Cars, Far Cry 5 and Ghost Recon Wildlands) anywhere from 70fps to 100fps. As you can see, all (except FC5) are pretty harsh on hardware. That's why I think you should aim higher.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Mid range cards like the RX 590 wont be very good at 144fps average for these games. Even 100fps means cutting down quality (I mean, even the well optimized Dirt 4 needs it). You'd better aim higher.

 

Seeing the games you listed, no.

 

but a month for an RMA is just frustrating isn't it?

 

I have a 1070 and it plays high settings in most games I played (Watch dogs 2, Assassin's Creed Origins, Dirt 4, Project Cars, Far Cry 5 and Ghost Recon Wildlands) anywhere from 70fps to 100fps. As you can see, all (except FC5) are pretty harsh on hardware. That's why I think you should aim higher.

In short: long term, get the 2060? (Future ray tracing titles + future 144hz monitor)

The RMA is about 2 weeks over here, sometimes even shorter.

Also, the i5 7400 isnt too weak for a 2060?

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9 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Pricing is all wrong, we have 25% tax over here :D :D :D :D :D 

Also, there is only 1 card under 400$ there!

Otherwise that website is great, i'm just afraid of bottlenecking..

So just add that 25% to each of all the GPU prices on the list, no?

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Just now, _Hustler_One_ said:

So just add that 25% to each of all the GPU prices on the list, no?

Not quite, as the site sometimes gets prices from Ebay.

Used cards cant be compared to new ones..

 

But obviously if i'm going for the mid- range cards its going to be the 2060, as it stands out in bang for buck like the site says!

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10 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

In short: long term, get the 2060? (Future ray tracing titles + future 144hz monitor)

I wont be bothered with ray tracing for now, I treat RTX like a gift code for an unreleased game. I know it's there, but I dont know if it will end up being shit. I dont know if it will eventually evolve into something decent like No Man Sky.

 

It can do 1080p 100fps high settings at least in most games though, that's what I care. Add a Freesync / Gsync monitor and it will be great.

 

10 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Also, the i5 7400 isnt too weak for a 2060?

It is, but weaker GPUs can't do what you want (or for very long). It's better to push hard on one side and fix the other later.

 

3rd gen Ryzen's coming when the North gets warm (early Q3) so not a good time to buy new CPUs anyway

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9 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Not quite, as the site sometimes gets prices from Ebay.

Used cards cant be compared to new ones..

 

But obviously if i'm going for the mid- range cards its going to be the 2060, as it stands out in bang for buck like the site says!

All the closest 2060 competitor from the AMD side has much higher power consumption (over 200W) while the 2060 is only 160W, this means difference heat they produces..

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Just now, _Hustler_One_ said:

All the closest 2060 competitor from the AMD side has much higher power consumption (over 200W) while the 2060 is only 160W, this means difference heat they produces..

Yeah, am 100% i cant get anything over a Rx590 (AMD- side) without getting a bigger PSU, so the Vegas are pretty much out of question..

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11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I wont be bothered with ray tracing for now, I treat RTX like a gift code for an unreleased game. I know it's there, but I dont know if it will end up being shit. I dont know if it will eventually evolve into something decent like No Man Sky.

 

It can do 1080p 100fps high settings at least in most games though, that's what I care. Add a Freesync / Gsync monitor and it will be great.

 

It is, but weaker GPUs can't do what you want (or for very long). It's better to push hard on one side and fix the other later.

 

3rd gen Ryzen's coming when the North gets warm (early Q3) so not a good time to buy new CPUs anyway

Would a used 1070ti be worth the slow RMA over a 2060? 1070ti used is about the same as a 2060 new

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1 minute ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Would a used 1070ti be worth the slow RMA over a 2060? 1070ti used is about the same as a 2060 new

in performance 2060 is slightly faster, so I'm still leaning towards the newer card.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

in performance 2060 is slightly faster, so I'm still leaning towards the newer card.

No point in buying a slower card for the same price :P

 

Thank you! I will probably buy a 2060 and cry myself to sleep after spending 1500 over my original budget :D 

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30 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

No point in buying a slower card for the same price :P

especially when someone has used the slower card before you do

 

30 minutes ago, ThomasJacobsen said:

Thank you! I will probably buy a 2060 and cry myself to sleep after spending 1500 over my original budget :D 

well, at least you get 5 year warranties. I only get 2 to 3 depending on the brand, and because I'm not under Trump I void warranties if I rip the warranty-void stickers just to get rid of the bad thermal paste.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

especially when someone has used the slower card before you do

 

well, at least you get 5 year warranties. I only get 2 to 3 depending on the brand, and because I'm not under Trump I void warranties if I rip the warranty-void stickers just to get rid of the bad thermal paste.

Norway got insane customer focused laws, but we pay 25% extra :P dont be too bummed about your 2-3 years ;) 

I figure i will loose warranty too, but im not overclocking either so doesnt really matter!

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