Death of the Lightning port

[Belgarathian]

Apple is reportedly testing an iPhone with USB-C instead of it's propriety Lightning connector.

 

I'd say it's a safe bet that the replacement iPhones coming will forgo the Lightning connector for USB-C given the move to USB-C for all other Apple devices. As a long-time Apple user, I'm excited for the move. There are a lot of great USB-C devices out there and since accessory manufacturers tend to follow Apple's lead it will hopefully lead to a wider range of USB-C accessories for all phones, computers, etc.

 

Now we just have to get them to update all their keyboards, mice, and other first party accessories to USB-C.

 

 

P.S While you're at it Apple, please give VRR 120hz screens

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-30/apple-is-said-to-prep-new-3-d-camera-for-2020-iphones-in-ar-push

 

 

[m9x3mos]

@Belgarathian

Amen! I would be down for a good universal standard. Probably still won't buy an iPhone anyway.

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

nice! if Apple does it across it's whole product line usb-c will become an even bigger thing!

[Belgarathian]

6 minutes ago, m9x3mos said:

@Belgarathian

Amen! I would be down for a good universal standard. Probably still won't buy an iPhone anyway.

Well money aside (licensing fees for Lightning acessories), the reason they designed it was they wanted a port that was durable, thin, and user-friendly which USB-C mostly is.

 

They could also replace the fees earned off Lightning by locking devices that don't use their chipsets like the LAM2 chip for external audio processors in Lightning connector headphones which they could easily adapt to USB-C. However with the onset of BT 5.0 and 5.1, I don't see wired headphones continuing to be a thing for mobile applications (unless you're using a DAP).

 

 

[captain_to_fire]

19 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

S While you're at it Apple, please give VRR 120hz screens

I doubt they can achieve 120 Hz refresh rate with OLED, but someone correct me on this. I think it’s the reason why the 2017 and 2018 iPad Pros still use IPS  LCD in order to achieve a variable refresh rate. 

 

Tbh I’m not a fan of OLED considering that the GS8 my friend owns is now suffering from screen burn in and I hope that for the iPad and Mac line, they’ll stick to IPS LCD. 

19 minutes ago, Belgarathian said:

I'm excited for the move. There are a lot of great USB-C devices out there and since accessory manufacturers tend to follow Apple's lead it will hopefully lead to a wider range of USB-C accessories for all phones, computers, etc.

If there’s one thing good about this is that you just buy dongles once. The MacBook dongle will then work with the iPhone. But I think Apple will now ship the iPhone charger with a USB C to USB C cable so people who have computers with USB A are now required to buy a dongle. 

[Belgarathian]

6 minutes ago, captain_to_fire said:

I doubt they can achieve 120 Hz refresh rate with OLED, but someone correct me on this. I think it’s the reason why the 2017 and 2018 iPad Pros still use IPS  LCD in order to achieve a variable refresh rate. 

 

Tbh I’m not a fan of OLED considering that the GS8 my friend owns is now suffering from screen burn in and I hope that for the iPad and Mac line, they’ll stick to IPS LCD. 

If there’s one thing good about this is that you just buy dongles once. The MacBook dongle will then work with the iPhone. But I think Apple will now ship the iPhone charger with a USB C to USB C cable so people who have computers with USB A are now required to buy a dongle. 

I'm not sure... To my knowledge it's not a restriction of OLED.

 

I was under the impression that the reason iPads aren't OLED yet is the cost of an OLED screen of that size. Probably not such a big deal running into 2020 as the cost has likely decreased significantly since they would have had those in development.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Moving to USB-C honestly feels like an eventuality for mobile devices. Easier standardization for users, higher bandwidth (through 3 gen 2 and higher implementations), dramatic increase in alternate mode flexibility.

 

Using lightning just doesnt have a good reason other than inertia. At least usb-A is dramatically more durable heh.

[bcredeur97]

heck ive been wanting usb 3.0 on an iphone ever since usb 3.0 came out... 

I like to backup to my pc sometimes and it takes FLIPPING AGES because usb 2.0 only...

[Guest]

I don't like USB-C, would prefer lightning. The connection in my laptop to my charger is getting loose and its only been 2 years, but my phone and iPad, which are a little older, are fine with lightning. I'd much prefer faster speeds over lightning. 

[DrMacintosh]

11 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

I don't like USB-C, would prefer lightning. The connection in my laptop to my charger is getting loose and its only been 2 years, but my phone and iPad, which are a little older, are fine with lightning. I'd much prefer faster speeds over lightning. 

You can sneeze on my MBPs USB-C port and whatever was plugged in would fall out  

[DrMacintosh]

I'd be ok with a USB-C equipped XR 2: Electric Boogaloo

 

Though I do prefer the connection mechanism on lighting. Its near impossible for Lighting to lose its connection where as USB-C has been seen to wear out and become loose with age. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You can sneeze on my MBPs USB-C port and whatever was plugged in would fall out  

I MISS MAGSAFE SO MUCH. (Sorry for caps but I'm emotional)

[mxk]

Now I don't have to hear people at my school "yo anyone got an apple charger?" (also another consequence of the shitty battery life and heavy use of phones), I can just hear "anyone got a charger?".

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, mxk. said:

Now I don't have to hear people at my school "yo anyone got an apple charger?" (also another consequence of the shitty battery

Is your school stuck in 2012? 

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

I MISS MAGSAFE SO MUCH. (Sorry for caps but I'm emotional)

Magsafe was an extremely flimsy connector. It knocked off with any torque. It was also a dedicated port and was always on the left side of the machine. Its better that it's gone imo. 

[mxk]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Is your school stuck in 2012? 

No but my school district is incredibly poor and kids use their phone allll the time. Lots of iphone 6s' and 6's on their last legs but families don't have enough money to get the newer phones for their kids.

Spoiler

Just a little rant,

 

Nike is headquartered here, where I live in Oregon and they own a boat load of land. They have some stupid ass deal with our city and they don't have to pay taxes for all the goddamn land they own. My district could be a little less poor if Nike actually helped out a bit. Even Intel helps some, but it doesn't do too much.

 

I wonder why nvidia doesn't donate to my high school, bc Jensen graduated from my high school.. Wishful thinking ig

 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, mxk. said:

Nike is headquartered here, where I live in Oregon and they own a boat load of land. They have some stupid ass deal with our city and they don't have to pay taxes for all the goddamn land they own. My district could be a little less poor if Nike actually helped out a bit. Even Intel helps some, but it doesn't do too much.

 

I wonder why nvidia doesn't donate to my high school, bc Jensen graduated from my high school..

Kappatalism

 

What are ya, some sort of socialist reasonable person? Wanting companies to pay their fare share and contribute to their communities? 

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

some sort of socialist reasonable person? Wanting companies to pay their fare share and contribute to their communities?

You don't understand Capitalism, because what mxk described isn't capitalism. Also, Oregon as a state is fairly left leaning.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

You don't understand Capitalism, because what mxk described isn't capitalism. Also, Oregon as a state is fairly left leaning.

My comment was not intended to be serious and I blame everyone equally. Move on with your day. 

[ZacoAttaco]

You know I wouldn't have believed this at all, then the new iPad Pro comes out with a USB-C port... so it's very possible. Personally, it would be an annoying transition initially but in the end it would be for the best.

[mxk]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Kappatalism

 

What are ya, some sort of socialist reasonable person? Wanting companies to pay their fare share and contribute to their communities? 

fuck nike lol. Maybe I should write Jensen asking for some donation or something.

Spoiler

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

You don't understand Capitalism, because what mxk described isn't capitalism. Also, Oregon as a state is fairly left leaning.

lmao you should hear how racist Oregon used to be.

 

There was legit a law saying that black people weren't allowed to come into the state, and the KKK had a huge base here in the 20th century.

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Magsafe was an extremely flimsy connector. It knocked off with any torque. It was also a dedicated port and was always on the left side of the machine. Its better that it's gone imo. 

I would appreciate a magnetic usb-c port though. Comes out way too easily and often falls out. Like a needle in an elevator

[Guest]

2 hours ago, mxk. said:

No but my school district is incredibly poor and kids use their phone allll the time. Lots of iphone 6s' and 6's on their last legs but families don't have enough money to get the newer phones for their kids.

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Just a little rant,

 

Nike is headquartered here, where I live in Oregon and they own a boat load of land. They have some stupid ass deal with our city and they don't have to pay taxes for all the goddamn land they own. My district could be a little less poor if Nike actually helped out a bit. Even Intel helps some, but it doesn't do too much.

 

I wonder why nvidia doesn't donate to my high school, bc Jensen graduated from my high school.. Wishful thinking ig

 

They’ll get what their given and like it. Back in my day I had Kyocera from 2001 and It was mistaken for a home phone lol.

[mxk]

18 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

They’ll get what their given and like it. Back in my day I had Kyocera from 2001 and It was mistaken for a home phone lol.

Yeah, I suppose. My parents don't buy me phones, I usually have to pay for them myself. There's definitely a split in kids everywhere. I see people at my school get a new phone and airpods (ew) every year. I see literally no need to get a new phone every year, it's such a waste of money.

[Ravendarat]

3 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Magsafe was an extremely flimsy connector. It knocked off with any torque. It was also a dedicated port and was always on the left side of the machine. Its better that it's gone imo. 

I have a Macbook from mid 2009 and have NEVER ONCE had my magsafe connector accidentally come unplugged, now the charger cable for my Pixel 2xl, that damn thing falls out almost daily while it sits on my night stand.

 

 

EDIT ***** I should point out I'm not saying some people didn't have problems with them, I'm saying I never ran into one, and I think calling it extremely flimsy is a drastic overstatement ******

Edited January 31, 2019 by Ravendarat
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