Intel buying out AMD rumors

[Fasauceome]

https://hothardware.com/news/crazy-plausible-intel-rumored-consider-amd-acquistion

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Crazy Or Plausible? Intel Rumored To Consider AMD Acquisition

nooooooooooooooooooooooo thank you.

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EETimes says it heard from numerous C-level executives that Intel is considering buying out AMD. 

Excuse me?

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We're not sure that is really feasible, even if Intel wanted to, because of regulatory hurdles. 

It's called a monopoly. Again, no thanks.

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For one thing, AMD has emerged as a force in the CPU sector. It's competed for decades, of course, but before Ryzen, you have to go back to the Athlon 64 days to see AMD truly asserting itself into the enthusiast discussion. AMD is in a much better place now, and is very much in the limelight with its Ryzen, Threadripper, and EPYC processors, and its rapid march to 7 nanometers.

As someone who's not as well oriented in the business world, I have to ask; Is Intel legally allowed to do anything remotely close to this? They poached Raja Koduri but that's another story. 

 

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Maher also noted that acquisition rumors bubble up from time to time, not just in regards to Intel buying AMD, but also involving NVIDIA as the purchaser.

This whole thing feels like some kind of prank, or maybe a fever dream?

 

Either way, the PC space is worse off with Intel as the sole chip designer, as we've seen thus far.

My main concern about tech related "leaks" and rumors lately is that they have had a startling accuracy over the last few months. AMD was rumored to make up to a 16 core AM4 CPU and the newly revealed chip with only one chiplet on it looks to make that rumor far more accurate. 

[79wjd]

No.

 

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[BlockedTheShot]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

https://hothardware.com/news/crazy-plausible-intel-rumored-consider-amd-acquistion

nooooooooooooooooooooooo thank you.

Excuse me?

It's called a monopoly. Again, no thanks.

As someone who's not as well oriented in the business world, I have to ask; Is Intel legally allowed to do anything remotely close to this? They poached Raja Koduri but that's another story. 

 

This whole thing feels like some kind of prank, or maybe a fever dream?

 

Either way, the PC space is worse off with Intel as the sole chip designer, as we've seen thus far.

My main concern about tech related "leaks" and rumors lately is that they have had a startling accuracy over the last few months. AMD was rumored to make up to a 16 core AM4 CPU and the newly revealed chip with only one chiplet on it looks to make that rumor far more accurate. 

This probably won't happen guys

 

 

Hopefully won't

[Fasauceome]

Just now, BlockedTheShot said:

Hopefully won't

Again, I have to know, is it even legal?

[Drak3]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Again, i have to know, is it even legal?

Very likely that it isn't.

[nick name]

The only way something like this would fly is if someone like Qualcomm or another ARM CPU manufacturer posed a large enough presence in the market.  And as far as I know -- they aren't even close in the PC or Server market.  

[Wh0_Am_1]

5 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

 

It's called a monopoly. Again, no thanks.

 

That is beginning not to be the case as ARM has started it's march into the PC market, and in the coming years (may) present real challenges to both Intel and AMD.

[Fnige]

 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Wh0_Am_1 said:

That is beginning not to be the case as ARM has started it's march into the PC market, and in the coming years (may) present real challenges to both Intel and AMD.

Even better. I only hope the semiconductor game doesn't remain a two player gig, a third competitor as opposed to a new second competitor is what I look forward to.

[Mihle]

It should be stopped if Intel tried.

But I think there have been acquisitions before that should not have been accepted, so who knows.

[Fnige]

All the noes aside, there is a reason for this...

 

AMD is acting as a threat to intel at this moment, you know. Ryzen gen 3, EPYC processors

 

also AMD is acting as a threat to nvidia atm, Navi... thats it but whatever

 

Intel wants AMD gone since if AMD doesn't go. Intel will have do deal with a very strong wall

[Wh0_Am_1]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Even better. I only hope the semiconductor game doesn't remain a two player gig, a third competitor as opposed to a new second competitor is what I look forward to.

Once the ball gets rolling though, it would not be that hard for ARM to dominate, so much so that Intel and AMD may be pushed to the brink, and the only reasonable solution may be for Intel to purchase AMD so as to pool their resources and compete with ARM. As ARM presents a very serious threat to both companies, and both of those companies are already having issues, also ARM already has a monopoly on the mobile market so they have plenty of resources to contend with AMD and Intel.

[Tristerin]

7 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Again, I have to know, is it even legal?

Yes.

 

A monopoly isn't defined as illegal until it has committed predatory or exclusionary tactics against that market.

 

The Sherman Antitrust in the US would make this interesting but I doubt illegal as this protects from price gouging to ensure no competition, etc.  Think of all of the new CPU companies wanting to enter the market soon - I know Ive read about a few.  

 

Do I think they will?  Ive seen some crazy ish in business.  Own a few, and work for Uncle Wardaddy himself (one of his many companies) and the things that get pulled off...to ensure revenue......boy the definition of ethics is STRETCHED.  Anyways not impossible at all, but I hope not myself.

[Fnige]

2 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Once the ball gets rolling though, it would not be that hard for ARM to dominate, so much so that Intel and AMD may be pushed to the brink, and the only reasonable solution may be for Intel to purchase AMD so as to pool their resources and compete with ARM. As ARM presents a very serious threat to both companies, and both of those companies are already having issues, also ARM already has a monopoly on the mobile market so they have plenty of resources to contend with AMD and Intel.

Though, I dont think ARM will be in any gaming rigs...

 

ARM may be the dominator for the Laptop market though

Edited January 15, 2019 by SlimyPython
forgot some words

[Sakkura]

11 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Again, I have to know, is it even legal?

Depends who's enforcing the laws. Like the old telephone monopoly got split up in the 1980s, then was allowed to rebuild in the 1990s.

 

You can definitely make the case that it's illegal. You just need the regulators to actually go and make that case.

[Wh0_Am_1]

2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Yes.

 

A monopoly isn't defined as illegal until it has committed predatory or exclusionary tactics against that market.

 

The Sherman Antitrust in the US would make this interesting but I doubt illegal as this protects from price gouging to ensure no competition, etc.  Think of all of the new CPU companies wanting to enter the market soon - I know Ive read about a few.  

 

Do I think they will?  Ive seen some crazy ish in business.  Own a few, and work for Uncle Wardaddy himself (one of his many companies) and the things that get pulled off...to ensure revenue......boy the definition of ethics is STRETCHED.  Anyways not impossible at all, but I hope not myself.

Honestly I believe that this would be a smart move by Intel, as they would own the X64 variant of their X86 and own modular tech to make it so that their processors could better battle it out against ARM.

 

2 hours ago, SlimyPython said:

Though, I dont think ARM will be in any gaming rigs...

ARM may be the dominator for the Laptop market

Apple already plans on putting ARM processor into their desktops within the next few years, honestly I expect the rest of the industry to follow to a point by 2022.

[Tristerin]

@fasauceome there are TONS of monopolies in your life, power company, water company, Wal Mart, just to name a quick few.  Its what they do that makes it illegal, after they are the monopoly.

Just now, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Honestly I believe that this would be a smart move by Intel, as they would own the X64 variant of their X86 and own modular tech to make it so that their processors could better battle it out against ARM.

Absolutely - why?  Other than the ARM, its about $$$ - this is the first time AMD has been this profitable in a LONG time.  Get it now before it gets better...or way more expensive for shareholders to sell out that 51%.

[Canada EH]

Would be a monopoly!

 

Billy's Microsoft got bitch slapped by those laws.

[Wh0_Am_1]

Just now, Canada EH said:

Would be a monopoly!

Not for long.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

there are TONS of monopolies in your life, power company, water company, Wal Mart,

I'm not exactly a huge fan of Commonwealth Edison or Walmart, so more of that doesn't actually install confidence

[laminutederire]

17 minutes ago, BlockedTheShot said:

This probably won't happen guys

 

 

Hopefully won't

If that'd ever happen I'd argue it'd be the Radeon group being bought out.

[Fnige]

1 minute ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Apple already plans on putting ARM processor into their desktops within the next few years, honestly I expect the rest of the industry to follow to a point by 2022.

Though not desktops or gaming laptops... right?... right?... Im kinda worried here, Right?

[Tristerin]

Just now, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Not for long.

It would take years, likely as you said...2022...to complete a buyout that large.  By then...different landscape completely.  The extrapolation of technology over...10 years...shows us that in 5...damn where will we be.

 

Also, every penny of profit AMD makes is a penny directly out of Intels pocket.  Buy now!  But I hope not.

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Absolutely - why?  Other than the ARM, its about $$$ - this is the first time AMD has been this profitable in a LONG time.  Get it now before it gets better...or way more expensive for shareholders to sell out that 51%.

That too.

[PopReference]

is it that time of the year again, Another Intel to buy AMD rumor?

yeah, no.