Youtuber gets a copyright claim from 'CD Baby' on a private test stream of only his own voice

[Syntaxvgm]

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Yet another day goes by and another stupid example of how youtube broken copyright system with automated appeals, a strike system, and no way false claims. Youtube will do nothing. No matter how loud people will get they will do nothing unless they feel this is causing them to lose money. And it likely isn't. There is no real competition for youtube, and there will likely never be anyone with billions to burn to make one. 

They never did anything before, It's nothing new. This reminds me of that time someone uploaded static and got claims about a year ago.
https://www.eff.org/takedowns/ten-hours-static-gets-five-copyright-notices

 

Sure they can't make a perfect auto-detect system. The problem is there's no way to fight these things for youtubers, and they have to face the possibility of terminated accounts for false claims. The times you hear about actual resolutions are only from channels big enough to get attention or a non automated appeal. Smaller youtubers almost NEVER get this solved. 

[PlayStation 2]

I've gotten a monetization claim from a song that sampled something that was in a video I had.

More specifically... this song. 

 

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

youtube

That is how youtube works, I heard that there are companies that automatically send in a complaint no matter what. They manage heavy loads of channels, and they have computers that constantly scan the flicks.

[Syntaxvgm]

3 minutes ago, handymanshandle said:

I've gotten a monetization claim from a song that sampled something that was in a video I had.

More specifically... this song. 

 

Daft punk should own youtube. 

[Canada EH]

Anyone can claim anything, YT should be on top of it. Shouldnt take long to disprove anything.

[Syntaxvgm]

3 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Anyone can claim anything, YT should be on top of it. Shouldnt take long to disprove anything.

The problem is there's never a positive resolution for almost anyone except larger youtubers. You appeal, CR holder says "no it's legit" and the strike stays on your account. 
His problem will get solved if it gets attention or the CR holder is good enough to manually review auto claims, other CR holders either dont review, double down, or manually claim to censor to take profits. 

9/10 times there's no resolution for this. 

[Guest]

at least it’s not the SJW FaceBook pulls, YT just shuts down everyone lol. 

[Canada EH]

3 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

CR holders

They are automatic now, they have computers that search everything. Even that Australian guy that opens the mail packages with the Crocodile Dundee knife had a CR issue, but he laid over voice to images, but the computers search found the video and sent in the CR automatically.

[PlayStation 2]

4 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

The problem is there's never a positive resolution for almost anyone except larger youtubers. You appeal, CR holder says "no it's legit" and the strike stays on your account. 
His problem will get solved if it gets attention or the CR holder is good enough to manually review auto claims, other CR holders either dont review, double down, or manually claim to censor to take profits. 

9/10 times there's no resolution for this. 

It's the Twitter methodology of going about shit, not caring until it gets attention or if you have monetary power.

[Canada EH]

3 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

SJW

That and CNN all fake news now, Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper and the rest of them are all spouting fake news, its sad to see. Then the host just blabbers louder over the other guy telling the truth. College and Univ campuses are even worse, they are like children snowflakes. They literally want to be called Snowflake and its against the law to say otherwise.

[Syntaxvgm]

10 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

at least it’s not the SJW FaceBook pulls, YT just shuts down everyone lol. 

no they do that too. 

 

10 hours ago, Canada EH said:

That and CNN all fake news now, Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper and the rest of them are all spouting fake news, its sad to see. Then the host just blabbers louder over the other guy telling the truth.

It's all fake. Fox, CNN, MSNBC. It's one side's bullshit or another's. Trump is a fucking clown and so is everyone who criticizes him. IT's amazing how he cal tell so many lies yet they feel the need to lie about him to drive that home. 

[Canada EH]

2 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

no they do that too. 

I like to see a good fist fight every now and then, on the news that is. Violence never solves nothing, but its sure interesting to watch. Gosh one day I'd like to see what kind of chops I have.

[Syntaxvgm]

2 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

They are automatic now, they have computers that search everything. Even that Australian guy that opens the mail packages with the Crocodile Dundee knife had a CR issue, but he laid over voice to images, but the computers search found the video and sent in the CR automatically.

No, it's not all automated. A lot of CR holders have people that manually flag videos as well. Lionsgate is recently getting shit for manually doing this to bad movie reviews for example. Mobile app developers have long done this to negative mobile game reviews. 

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

No, it's not all automated. A lot of CR holders have people that manually flag videos as well. Lionsgate is recently getting shit for manually doing this to bad movie reviews for example. Mobile app developers have long done this to negative mobile game reviews. 

Yes it is, there are companies that manage blocks of YT channels. Its a business. If I had a business, and I put something on my channel or my url, you'd bet I'd want someone to get on that asap.

[TempestCatto]

I remember a time when trolls would report anything relating to My Little Pony, simply because they're assholes. Original content like songs, artworks, etc were being flagged because the trolls abused the system. This seems to be no different. Honestly, it's dumb that it hasn't changed with all the time that's passed.

[Syntaxvgm]

1 minute ago, TempestCatto said:

I remember a time when trolls would report anything relating to My Little Pony, simply because they're assholes. Original content like songs, artworks, etc were being flagged because the trolls abused the system. This seems to be no different. Honestly, it's dumb that it hasn't changed with all the time that's passed.

independent bands have their own songs flagged by record labels and basically get the revenue stolen or the video taken down all the time and nothing happens. Sometimes people steal music, upload it, and CR strike the original. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

That and CNN all fake news now, Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper and the rest of them are all spouting fake news, its sad to see. Then the host just blabbers louder over the other guy telling the truth. College and Univ campuses are even worse, they are like children snowflakes. They literally want to be called Snowflake and its against the law to say otherwise.

When I was working as a gardener I was with my mate and we were working with an old man. At lunchtime he was blabbing I’m about this snowflake stuff saying back in his day he used to help slaughter cattle and gut them after a long day herding them, young fellas won’t do that work now.

 

Little did he know I do pretty much the same thing with sheep, pigs on some weekends. Shearing is good money too. 

 

Not all us college students are snowflakes thank you. Not a fan of CNN either. 

7 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

no they do that too. 

Trouble with FB is that is easy easier to upload anything and share it, stuff gets around before it’s taken down.

[PlayStation 2]

1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

independent bands have their own songs flagged by record labels and basically get the revenue stolen or the video taken down all the time and nothing happens. Sometimes people steal music, upload it, and CR strike the original. 

and that's why one of my channels is almost exclusively filled with copyrighted content I managed to get onto youtube

if you can't beat the system by making original content, give it a big fuck you by pushing the limits

[Blademaster91]

7 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Yes it is, there are companies that manage blocks of YT channels. Its a business. If I had a business, and I put something on my channel or my url, you'd bet I'd want someone to get on that asap.

Yeah if it were my business i'd want in on that, more business is more money, but it's just easier to listen to a few people that get pissed and spin it as good PR when a channel gets blocked.

[ARikozuM]

I think it's time for a massive legal sweep of the music industry. Their whole stance on piracy is only for stealing their IP, but the music industry will steal or pirate for themselves. 

[Syntaxvgm]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

I think it's time for a massive legal sweep of the music industry. Their whole stance on piracy is only for stealing their IP, but the music industry will steal or pirate for themselves. 

If any legal reform happens it will just be what the industry wants. 

[iLostMyXbox21]

This is why I don’t record my voice on youtube

 

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That and I just hate my voice

 

[Syntaxvgm]

Just now, iLostMyXbox21 said:

This is why I don’t record my voice on youtube

 

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That and I just hate my voice

 

Trust me if you start just doing it and get used to it, it'll eventually not go away at all. 

[DrMacintosh]

Copyright claims should require some level of proof before any action can happen. It seems like just anyone can claim to hold the copyright to something and be talking out of their ass. 

[ARikozuM]

7 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Copyright claims should require some level of proof before any action can happen. It seems like just anyone can claim to hold the copyright to something and be talking out of their ass. 

Time to make a fake account and make a claim on a record label.