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I lost the silicon lottery? Non-ideal 9900k OC

Unfortunately not getting the experience many others have posted in terms of their 9900k OC.  Stepped up my voltage consistently, kept getting crashes (no high temps, low 80's max).

 

Ended up getting my 9900k up to 5.0 GHz...but had to keep VCore at 1.39 to keep it from crashing.  At 1.37 CB will run like 1/4 the time to completion.  1.38 1/2 the time.  1.39, then 1.395, I thought I was good and ran it a bunch, let it rest a little, did some light work, closed most things down (not every program, but not a lot actually "active")...Started up CB,run, and crash.  Looks like I am still getting occasional spikes of 1.392 and 1.396.  Bumped it up to 1.4 and now it seems like nothing will crash it.  Still getting max spikes of 1.396.  

 

I'm a little bummed after seeing so many people posting with 5.0-5.1 GHz at easily less than 1.3.  Hopefully 1.4 will not be a problem.  I am very safely in a good temp range (most CB runs put me in high 70's, if I do a few back to back I can get up to mid 80's).  Gaming has put me into the 70's, looks like utilization for that is of course not near CB. 

 

I guess at least it doesn't run hot?  CB scores in the 2180's-2205max, temps never above mid 80's.  1.4 shouldn't hurt it if i'm not technically every running hot? I hope?

 

 

El Zoido:  Custom loop - 9900k + RTX 3090 / 32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 4k 120hz IPS / z390 Aorus Master / 2tb 970 evo+ 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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5Ghz on 8 cores is pretty good either way.

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what kind of cooling is that?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

5Ghz on 8 cores is pretty good either way.

I suppose that is true, it is clearly a huge speed upgrade.  Just a bummer I will be a bit hesitant to push it any further in the future.  Hopefully it'll be a long time before I need to tune it up

El Zoido:  Custom loop - 9900k + RTX 3090 / 32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 4k 120hz IPS / z390 Aorus Master / 2tb 970 evo+ 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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12 minutes ago, Zberg said:

Unfortunately not getting the experience many others have posted in terms of their 9900k OC

 

One way you could try to see what percentile you're in (roughly) is run the UserBenchmark hardware speed test on it.  https://www.userbenchmark.com/ 

It should give you some idea how it performs against other users who likely overclocked theirs (considering the cross-over of people who would both run a UserBenchmark scan and own a 9900k).  For example, I have an i5-2500k and when I first ran it stock, it said my CPU was in the lower 42% - percentile bracket, and once I put a mild overclock on it to 3.8Ghz boost and it went to higher 59% percentile, so you can tell the 2500k results curve is heavily skewed by people who knew to overclock the snot out of it  (the motherboard I have is non-OC H67 motherboard and that prevents me from doing multiplier control, it maxes out my mild overclock at 3.7Ghz base... I know it's a travesty for that CPU and it can do so much more, but oh well it's old and needs an upgrade anyway).

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

what kind of cooling is that?

Just the 3 case fans from the Define R6 and a Noctua D15

El Zoido:  Custom loop - 9900k + RTX 3090 / 32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 4k 120hz IPS / z390 Aorus Master / 2tb 970 evo+ 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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2 minutes ago, Zberg said:

Just the 3 case fans from the Define R6 and a Noctua D15

so you live in the poles? Because that's very far from what reviewers found out (NZXT X62 on 9900k? Yup 1.35V and the thing's nearing Tjmax)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Zberg said:

Just the 3 case fans from the Define R6 and a Noctua D15

Which motherboard are you running?

Sincerely,

 

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

so you live in the poles? Because that's very far from what reviewers found out (NZXT X62 on 9900k? Yup 1.35V and the thing's nearing Tjmax)

Nah I am in the south, but its cool right now.  Outside is like 60, house it like 70.  I figured 1.4 would be getting me screaming high temps.  Got lucky there I guess?

El Zoido:  Custom loop - 9900k + RTX 3090 / 32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 4k 120hz IPS / z390 Aorus Master / 2tb 970 evo+ 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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5 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Which motherboard are you running?

Aorus Master

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The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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14 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

One way you could try to see what percentile you're in (roughly) is run the UserBenchmark hardware speed test on it.  https://www.userbenchmark.com/ 

It should give you some idea how it performs against other users who likely overclocked theirs (considering the cross-over of people who would both run a UserBenchmark scan and own a 9900k).  For example, I have an i5-2500k and when I first ran it stock, it said my CPU was in the lower 42% - percentile bracket, and once I put a mild overclock on it to 3.8Ghz boost and it went to higher 59% percentile, so you can tell the 2500k results curve is heavily skewed by people who knew to overclock the snot out of it  (the motherboard I have is non-OC H67 motherboard and that prevents me from doing multiplier control, it maxes out my mild overclock at 3.7Ghz base... I know it's a travesty for that CPU and it can do so much more, but oh well it's old and needs an upgrade anyway).

Thanks for the tip Ill run this now

El Zoido:  Custom loop - 9900k + RTX 3090 / 32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 4k 120hz IPS / z390 Aorus Master / 2tb 970 evo+ 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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42 minutes ago, Zberg said:

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the current alone on 1.4 might be a problem long term, but nobody knows for sure atm, just keep in mind that most of the 5ghz you see is with an avx offset, and 5.0 avx at 1.4v is right about average.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll evga non-3090 tie ftw3 1905 0.8v 65C 270w (double fps of 1080ti) ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll all nf12/14 fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll x27 ll PA272w

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666  bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA non-30 tie XC 1830//7600 0.85v 210w ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA242w (movie, work mon dying) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

 

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2 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

One way you could try to see what percentile you're in (roughly) is run the UserBenchmark hardware speed test on it.  https://www.userbenchmark.com/ 

It should give you some idea how it performs against other users who likely overclocked theirs (considering the cross-over of people who would both run a UserBenchmark scan and own a 9900k).  For example, I have an i5-2500k and when I first ran it stock, it said my CPU was in the lower 42% - percentile bracket, and once I put a mild overclock on it to 3.8Ghz boost and it went to higher 59% percentile, so you can tell the 2500k results curve is heavily skewed by people who knew to overclock the snot out of it  (the motherboard I have is non-OC H67 motherboard and that prevents me from doing multiplier control, it maxes out my mild overclock at 3.7Ghz base... I know it's a travesty for that CPU and it can do so much more, but oh well it's old and needs an upgrade anyway).

Appreciate the link!  I tried it out and...

 

Intel Core i9-9900K-$520
U3E1, 1 CPU, 8 cores, 16 threads
Base clock 3.6 GHz, turbo 4.95 GHz (avg)
 
 Performing way above expectations (96th percentile)
 
I guess even though I'm requiring somewhat higher voltage i'll take it.  Seems like it is doing some beastly work.

El Zoido:  Custom loop - 9900k + RTX 3090 / 32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 4k 120hz IPS / z390 Aorus Master / 2tb 970 evo+ 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / 1440p 144hz IPS / B550 MSI mortar / 2tb WDblack Gen4

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