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10gig speeds on network

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Go to solution Solved by FloRolf,

You can either connect NAS and pc peer2peer with network cards like the Asus C100C, which are RJ45, or old SFP+ server cards (which use sfp+...) 

 

You can NOT use powerline. 

 

If you want to build a whole network and not just have the two systems communicate it gets a lot more expensive. 10gbit switches are like $400 for basic 4port configs. 

 

 

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keep in mind even SSDs run at "just" 500mb/s. So in order for you to saturate 10gbit you'd need a Raid0 of SSDs in both NAS and pc or nvme in both. (or some kind of wicked hdd raid) 

I am looking for a method to transfer files from my pc to a NAS at hopefully 10gb speeds. Currently pc and nas has the standard gigabit speed on motherboards. They are both connected to powerline adapter which is then connected ISP.

 

Now if I wanted to get up to 10gig file transfer from pc to nas, what would I need in terms of switches, and network cards? I live in canada, if it makes a difference in terms of parts.

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What nas and drives do you have?

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You can either connect NAS and pc peer2peer with network cards like the Asus C100C, which are RJ45, or old SFP+ server cards (which use sfp+...) 

 

You can NOT use powerline. 

 

If you want to build a whole network and not just have the two systems communicate it gets a lot more expensive. 10gbit switches are like $400 for basic 4port configs. 

 

 

Edit:

keep in mind even SSDs run at "just" 500mb/s. So in order for you to saturate 10gbit you'd need a Raid0 of SSDs in both NAS and pc or nvme in both. (or some kind of wicked hdd raid) 

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I can start with pc to nas direct for now. I've been doing some research and it seems I'll have to play with the settings on the network as well. How would that work?

 

If the direction connection works, I'll see into expanding it as a cloud later on, so I can put that aside for now.

 

As for drives, I have a 10tb wd gold with 4x4tb wd red ill expand into a lot more drives later on as I need. Ill be adding ssd and changing to unraid as well, once I learn a bit more about unraid

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6 minutes ago, shinegull said:

I can start with pc to nas direct for now. I've been doing some research and it seems I'll have to play with the settings on the network as well. How would that work?

 

If the direction connection works, I'll see into expanding it as a cloud later on, so I can put that aside for now.

 

As for drives, I have a 10tb wd gold with 4x4tb wd red ill expand into a lot more drives later on as I need. Ill be adding ssd and changing to unraid as well, once I learn a bit more about unraid

Please make sure to use the "quote" button or tag people with "@FloRolf" for example. 

 

After adding in the pcie expansion cards you can and must still use the 1gbit onboard networking with a p2p connection. You simply give the 10gbit link a different IP. 

Example: you network is usually 192.168.158.XX

Then you simply change your 10gbit to 10.0.0.X. There are tons of YouTube videos out there explaining in detail though. I did it myself and its pretty easy. 

 

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GTX 780 DCU2 // 8600GTS // Hifiman HE-400i // Kennerton Magister
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22 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

keep in mind even SSDs run at "just" 500mb/s

SATA SSDs run at 500 MB/s not '500 mb/s'. This is why using the correct case for unit letters is important. SATA 3 is 6 Gb (gigabits) per second, which works out to around 500-550 MB (megabytes) per second. 6 times more than a gigabit connection. 2 in RAID0 outperform 10GbE,

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8 minutes ago, Granular said:

SATA SSDs run at 500 MB/s not '500 mb/s'. This is why using the correct case for unit letters is important. SATA 3 is 6 Gb (gigabits) per second, which works out to around 500-550 MB (megabytes) per second. 6 times more than a gigabit connection. 2 in RAID0 outperform 10GbE,

Yeah I'm sorry, I should use upper/power case more correctly. 

2 in Raid0 will still not outperform 10gbit though as that is 1,25 gigabyte/s and 2 SSDs are "just" 1gbyte/s. But yeah, pretty close :P

 

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R5 2400G - Noctua NH-D14 - Asus Prime X370-Pro - 16gb G.Skill Aegis 3000mhz - Seasonic Focus Platinum 550W - Fractal Design R5 - 
250gb 970 Evo (OS) - 2x500gb 860 Evo (Raid0) - 6x4TB WD Red (RaidZ2)

 

Audio Gear:

Hifiman HE-400i - Kennerton Magister - Beyerdynamic DT880 250Ohm - AKG K7XX - Fostex TH-X00 - O2 Amp/DAC Combo - 
Klipsch RP280F - Klipsch RP160M - Klipsch RP440C - Yamaha RX-V479

 

Reviews and Stuff:

GTX 780 DCU2 // 8600GTS // Hifiman HE-400i // Kennerton Magister
Folding all the Proteins! // Boincerino

Useful Links:
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11 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Yeah I'm sorry, I should use upper/power case more correctly. 

2 in Raid0 will still not outperform 10gbit though as that is 1,25 gigabyte/s and 2 SSDs are "just" 1gbyte/s

There's some overhead for the file exchange protocol too, but I guess my main point was that you don't necessarily need to saturate 10GbE for it to be worth the upgrade.

Even if you have a single HDD in your client and server each, 1GbE can be a bottleneck as an HDD can exceed 125MB/s (minus file exchange protocol overhead) for large sequential reads and the server can cache writes in RAM, as Linux usually does by default.

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I think I have answers so far. Thank you to everyone, especially  FloRolf.

 

I think I will start with 10gig network cards from asus.

 

I'll also work on getting a switch, maybe the mikrotik as Nicholas mentioned. Assuming I can even get my hands on one, otherwise I might just get a netgear or asus one instead, even if they are about 250 to 350 for one

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