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If I want to use KDE I should just install Kubuntu straight right?

I've heard many people complaining about KDE broke Gnome and made ubuntu un-stable.

Do you guys recommend me to use Kubuntu instead? 

 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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[Shills in Manjaro KDE]

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Kde Neon, Kubuntu, Manjaro KDE are all good options - plasma will work well on pretty much anything though, and the defaults look pretty good.

Don't ask to ask, just ask... please 🤨

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Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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I've been using KDE for years, sometime during major upgrades there are a few regressions, but these have been less and less over time now.

My last major upgrade was silky smooth; upgrade packages, restart GUI, all running as expected. (baloo can run away sometimes, but a killall on logout script reigns it in).

 

As a side note, if I get guests that are doze proficient, they can do most of what they want to on my machine with little supervision, much quicker transition than anything else.

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5 minutes ago, King Poet said:

[Shills in Manjaro KDE]

 

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Kde Neon, Kubuntu, Manjaro KDE are all good options - plasma will work well on pretty much anything though, and the defaults look pretty good.

This is why I can never get ANYTHING done on a linux machine. 

 

why I busy jiggling with all these different DEs and such, here's a picture of my face. Enjoy!

 

 

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If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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25 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

This is why I can never get ANYTHING done on a linux machine.

why I busy jiggling with all these different DEs and such, here's a picture of my face. Enjoy!

Well... you could always use a VM to try them out without having to install from scratch every time.

Don't ask to ask, just ask... please 🤨

sudo chmod -R 000 /*

What is scaling and how does it work? Asus PB287Q unboxing! Console alternatives :D Watch Netflix with Kodi on Arch Linux Sharing folders over the internet using SSH Beginner's Guide To LTT (by iamdarkyoshi)

Sauron'stm Product Scores:

Spoiler

Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

try them out without having to install from scratch every time.

Doesn't that take like 15 minutes per distro nowadays though, just treat it as learning time and blow away the hard drive with parted b4 you reboot to the next potential distro.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Ralphred said:

Doesn't that take like 15 minutes per distro nowadays though, just treat it as learning time and blow away the hard drive with parted b4 you reboot to the next potential distro.

Yeah sure, he gets to use his computer at the same time though if he uses a vm.

Don't ask to ask, just ask... please 🤨

sudo chmod -R 000 /*

What is scaling and how does it work? Asus PB287Q unboxing! Console alternatives :D Watch Netflix with Kodi on Arch Linux Sharing folders over the internet using SSH Beginner's Guide To LTT (by iamdarkyoshi)

Sauron'stm Product Scores:

Spoiler

Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Just now, Sauron said:

Yeah sure, he gets to use his computer at the same time though if he uses a vm.

The amount "it just works" stuff these modern installers want to do make me nervous, I tend to hide my real drives when I'm experimenting like this.

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55 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

I've heard many people complaining about KDE broke Gnome and made ubuntu un-stable.

Do you guys recommend me to use Kubuntu instead? 

 

 

45 minutes ago, Ralphred said:

I've been using KDE for years, sometime during major upgrades there are a few regressions, but these have been less and less over time now.

My last major upgrade was silky smooth; upgrade packages, restart GUI, all running as expected. (baloo can run away sometimes, but a killall on logout script reigns it in).

 

As a side note, if I get guests that are doze proficient, they can do most of what they want to on my machine with little supervision, much quicker transition than anything else.


Imo KDE is the most polished and well made, modern DE ever. 
Just compare the RAM usage to GNOME, which is something like 1.1GB, like Windows.
I always found GNOME laggy unlike KDE since the 3.0 release, but I have to say it's good for games and handles fullscreen very well, always disables the compositor so you'll never get any performance drop, and it's the most likely to be supported for every app

My kubuntu install on the other hand weights 480MB on startup, his file manager is the best thing on earth, the style is coherent, handles 144Hz monitors very well, doesn't lag, has tons of features like KDE connect, support for Telegram, all music players on the desktop and the lockscreen (also GNOME but it's better made)  but it has some flaws too, it's prone to crashes some times (I use Kubuntu 18.10), and is a bit tricky on "unsupported games" that don't tell the desktop to disable the compositor, which you will get a performance drop unlike in GNOME (There is a workaround in there that every fullscreen app will have the compositor disabled even if it the app, like Portal, doesn't tell to) and have worse Wayland support at this current state. Also the display manager transition is a bit crapp*y unlike gnome + gdm, it has better integration, also night shift is enabled on the display login.

But it's my supposition that Neon should have the best stability since it's made directly from KDE developers unlike the Ubuntu one so changes, updates and bug fixes are more likely to happen faster.

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To answer the question in your title, if you want to use KDE then yes, the easiest option is to use it with a distro that has KDE installed by defualt, such as Kubuntu.

To answer the question in your post, if you don't want to use standard Ubuntu with Gnome, there are many variants with different DEs. Which one you prefer to use will ultimately come down to personal taste. I'm very familiar with XFCE and thus use Xubuntu.

Most major distros now will also allow you to live boot from an ISO image (Typically written to a USB drive) which makes trying out different distros either in a VM or on bare metal very easy.

Best to think of it as being in a candy store with a pocketful of cash. Set aside a few hours to try out a bunch of different stuff and see if there's anything that you like more than the others.

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