For someone who has never experienced >60hz gaming, is 100hz a big jump? 200hz?

[stratuh]

I've only owned 60hz displays and I've never seen a 120/144/other display in a store. I've known about the hubbub about higher refresh rates for years but I've just never experienced it.

 

I'm flipflopping between two monitors: the Acer Z35 (2560x1080/144hz OC to 200hz) and the Asus XG35VQ (3440x1440/100hz). Both are around the same price of CAD$900/1000. To note is I've never experienced 1440p either although I do quite like my current 2560x1080 29in. Both monitors are also 35in. After having 21:9 for years, I'd like to stay in this ecosystem.

 

I'm not sure which to choose and I think it comes down to the refresh rates. Coming from 60hz, is 100hz a big improvement? What about 144hz or 200hz? I just don't know if 100hz is worth the bother. FWIW I have a Ryzen 2600 and RTX2070.

 

Failing both, any other ultrawides you can suggest around or under $1000?

[Firewrath9]

what GPU, as anything short of a 2080 ti cant push UWQHD 100hz/WQHD 144hz. I suggest finding a 1080p IPS 165hz G-sync if you have a 1080 ti/2080.

SLI 1080/Vega 64 is fine for those monitors tho

[stratuh]

Just now, Firewrath9 said:

what GPU, as anything short of a 2080 ti cant push UWQHD 100hz/WQHD 144hz. I suggest finding a 1080p IPS 165hz G-sync if you have a 1080 ti/2080.

SLI 1080/Vega 64 is fine for those monitors tho

I guess it's important to mention I have a Ryzen 2600 and a RTX2070.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

100HZ is a big jump, 100 to 144 is pretty neat, 144 to 200 I personally can't see

[Swes]

Massive difference to get 100 Hz with slightly better going to 144. If you are going UWQHD dont bother with 144 for now I say unless you like going low quality on shooters or have a beastly set up like SLI 1080 Ti .Theres plenty of cheaper options.

[Slottr]

I use an MX34VQ, its about 850 CAD - 100hz, 1440p ultrawide. 

 

I run a gtx 1080 and its awesome. 100hz vs 144hz shows a fair difference but anything higher (imo) doesnt.

 

I still think 100hz is completely fine though, I came from 60 and love it.

[Princess Luna]

You'll always see a lot more difference going from 60hz to 100hz than from 100hz to 144hz, the more you go up the narrow the frametime difference is to the point 240hz are really kinda redundant ground area already.

 

If you want an ultrawide that goes as high as 100hz don't feel bad about it.

[Slottr]

5 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

what GPU, as anything short of a 2080 ti cant push UWQHD 100hz/WQHD 144hz. I suggest finding a 1080p IPS 165hz G-sync if you have a 1080 ti/2080.

SLI 1080/Vega 64 is fine for those monitors tho

1080 can run 1440p ultrawide just fine in most games, with a 1080p ultrawide and gsync montior- you could run that easily with a 1070. 

[Swes]

1 minute ago, stratuh said:

I guess it's important to mention I have a Ryzen 2600 and a RTX2070.

Would focus on UWHD or 100 Hz UWQHD that you can upgrade into maybe?

 

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-vast-curved-gaming-monitor

[Jwalbrecht2000]

1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

anything short of a 2080 ti cant push UWQHD 100hz/WQHD 144hz.

This is misleading, since it depends on both the game and the graphical settings you run it at. I should know, as I currently run a WQHD 144Hz + 1080Ti setup and get a steady 144+fps (on ultra settings, typically) experience in most AAA from the past couple years.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, Slottr said:

I use an MX34VQ, its about 850 CAD - 100hz, 1440p ultrawide. 

 

I run a gtx 1080 and its awesome. 100hz vs 144hz shows a fair difference but anything higher (imo) doesnt.

 

I still think 100hz is completely fine though, I came from 60 and love it.

For those without a ba GPU, probably worth it to step up to something with sync, personally love my X34 (livin overseas rn but goin home to it this summer hopefully)

[stratuh]

3 minutes ago, Slottr said:

I use an MX34VQ, its about 850 CAD - 100hz, 1440p ultrawide. 

 

I run a gtx 1080 and its awesome. 100hz vs 144hz shows a fair difference but anything higher (imo) doesnt.

 

I still think 100hz is completely fine though, I came from 60 and love it.

Interesting, I hadn't even seen this one. I think the only major difference is the ROG Strix version has Gsync for $120 more (judging Amazon.ca pricing right now).

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Jwalbrecht2000 said:

This is misleading, since it depends on both the game and the graphical settings you run it at. I should know, as I currently run a WQHD 144Hz + 1080Ti setup and get a steady 144+fps (on ultra settings, typically) experience in most AAA from the past couple years.

Yeah but you have SLI 1080s > 1080 Ti

[Slottr]

Just now, stratuh said:

Interesting, I hadn't even seen this one. I think the only major difference is the ROG Strix version has Gsync for $120 more (judging Amazon.ca pricing right now).

If you can afford Gsync, go for it. But if you have second guesses, save your money.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, stratuh said:

Interesting, I hadn't even seen this one. I think the only major difference is the ROG Strix version has Gsync for $120 more (judging Amazon.ca pricing right now).

For a 2070 = 1080 I'd say worth it, since my 1600 @ 3.9GhZ / 1080 OC rig (second in the signature) can't quite push 100FPS in all titles

[Slottr]

4 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

For those without a ba GPU, probably worth it to step up to something with sync, personally love my X34 (livin overseas rn but goin home to it this summer hopefully)

Agreed, if they can afford it. I would have loved to go with the x34 but the huge step up in price compared to this Asus display really turned me off

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, Slottr said:

Agreed, if they can afford it. I would have loved to go with the x34 but the huge step up in price compared to this Asus display really turned me off

I got mine for $889 so yeah.

 

 

and then the AW3418DW went on sale 3 days later

[Swes]

3 minutes ago, Jwalbrecht2000 said:

This is misleading, since it depends on both the game and the graphical settings you run it at. I should know, as I currently run a WQHD 144Hz + 1080Ti setup and get a steady 144+fps (on ultra settings, typically) experience in most AAA from the past couple years.

Idk witcher 3 could barely hold 100-115 with with my setup that had SLI 1080 Tis. My experience has been unless you drop settings UWQHD is a tough thing to run. Sure theres many titles that arent hogs to run but I wouldn't say recent AAA titles will run 144 Hz UWQHD ultra on anything less than a top tier SLI setup

[Slottr]

Just now, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

I got mine for $889 so yeah.

 

 

and then the AW3418DW went on sale 3 days later

Wheres the sad react  

What currency is that in though? Canada's prices are always on/off 

[Firewrath9]

2 minutes ago, Jwalbrecht2000 said:

This is misleading, since it depends on both the game and the graphical settings you run it at. I should know, as I currently run a WQHD 144Hz + 1080Ti setup and get a steady 144+fps (on ultra settings, typically) experience in most AAA from the past couple years.

Ok. So I can get around 61 fps average PUBG 1440p ultra settings with a pretty serious OC on gpu (2130mhz) and looking at actual benchmarks (not userbenchmark), a 1080 ti is 60% better, so thats 97.6 fps. btw i have a 1070. so thats not 144hz, far from it. 

[Jwalbrecht2000]

4 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Ok. So I can get around 61 fps average PUBG 1440p ultra settings with a pretty serious OC on gpu (2130mhz) and looking at actual benchmarks (not userbenchmark), a 1080 ti is 60% better, so thats 97.6 fps. btw i have a 1070. so thats not 144hz, far from it. 

You can't simply make a generalization about the performance of a card based on its results in a single game... keep in mind that the benchmarks of two identically-configured systems can also vary widely

[Taf the Ghost]

It depends on your eyes quite a bit. For most people, it seems to be around the 80-100 range that gets the most benefit. You can tell 100 Hz vs 144 Hz vs 240 Hz when it's side by side, but the actual benefit is hard for most people to notice once you get to 100 Hz. For LCD-type panels, 60 Hz is just a little low. Even 75 Hz is noticeably better.

 

That being said, resolution, panel quality & size are far more important considerations for buying, firstly.

[Firewrath9]

28 minutes ago, Jwalbrecht2000 said:

You can't simply make a generalization about the performance of a card based on its results in a single game... keep in mind that the benchmarks of two identically-configured systems can also vary widely

In general the 1080 ti is 60% faster, and 90% of my AAA games get 60-75 fps.

looked at lots of 1070 revies, all with 50-70 fps.

[stratuh]

26 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

It depends on your eyes quite a bit. For most people, it seems to be around the 80-100 range that gets the most benefit. You can tell 100 Hz vs 144 Hz vs 240 Hz when it's side by side, but the actual benefit is hard for most people to notice once you get to 100 Hz. For LCD-type panels, 60 Hz is just a little low. Even 75 Hz is noticeably better.

 

That being said, resolution, panel quality & size are far more important considerations for buying, firstly.

It's something I struggle with personally. I don't have the best eyesight: I could switch my main monitor to 720p and might just barely notice a difference. I tend to keep antialiasing off because honestly I can't tell unless I'm super close. It doesn't help I have monocular vision.

 

I guess in the OP I technically lied: I have experienced >60hz gaming, on my Oculus Rift. I love it: Superhot VR is such a blast with how smooth it is. I can definitely notice an improvement over 60hz there, I've just never experienced it on screen. From what I can tell, the Rift is 90hz, and it is night and day.

 

I think if I were to custom pick the features I'd most benefit from, likely refresh rate and color acuity/quality (maybe HDR plays into this) would come first above others.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, stratuh said:

It's something I struggle with personally. I don't have the best eyesight: I could switch my main monitor to 720p and might just barely notice a difference. I tend to keep antialiasing off because honestly I can't tell unless I'm super close. It doesn't help I have monocular vision.

 

I guess in the OP I technically lied: I have experienced >60hz gaming, on my Oculus Rift. I love it: Superhot VR is such a blast with how smooth it is. I can definitely notice an improvement over 60hz there, I've just never experienced it on screen.

 

I think if I were to custom pick the features I'd most benefit from, likely refresh rate and color acuity/quality (maybe HDR plays into this) would come first above others.

HDR is still another 2 generations off for Monitor panels. I'm not sure you can even get Local Dimming for less than 1k USD right now.

 

You'd probably want either an IPS or VA panel. 144 Hz IPS panels are expensive, but the VA ones tend to be reasonable. (To note: for the price category you're talking about, you should not buy into monitors that expensive unless they are specifically what you want.) If you're not upgrading your entire monitor stack, I generally wouldn't suggest mixing & matching vertical resolutions. It makes moving programs between something of a pain, especially going from the higher to lower resolution panels.

 

I also know there are some 100 Hz panels out there in 21:9. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7BB6675453 Something like that is IPS + 75 Hz and a reasonable price.