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Can i runa 2080?

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53 minutes ago, Crunken said:

but what about a 1070ti

If you can find a good deal on one it's certainly a good pick, it'll be an upgrade.

So i've been looking at 1080ti's recently but almost none are available in my country and if they are they're really overpriced, since a 2080 is basically the same performance as a 1080ti i was thinking i could get that instead since the price is better

Right now i have
GPU: 970

CPU: I7 4770
RAM: 8GB from Corsair
MOBO: MSI H97 Gaming 3
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 550W
also got 2 ssd's and 1 hdd

can i run a 2080 without bottleneck and is my PSU big enough? planning on upgrading the rest of the pc later down the line but don't have enough money for it right now so a gpu upgrade is probably the best right now. gonna play at 1080p at 144hz with good settings preferably, thinking about higher res screen down the line

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Yes it will be a bottleneck. I think it would be at least 25% reduction in FPS versus a 9900K if not more but if you plan to upgrade your PC later down the line then It shouldn't be a problem. That PSU is enough provided you don't OC your GPU too much. 

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21 minutes ago, Crunken said:

So i've been looking at 1080ti's recently but almost none are available in my country and if they are they're really overpriced, since a 2080 is basically the same performance as a 1080ti i was thinking i could get that instead since the price is better

Right now i have
GPU: 970

CPU: I7 4770
RAM: 8GB from Corsair
MOBO: MSI H97 Gaming 3
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 550W
also got 2 ssd's and 1 hdd

can i run a 2080 without bottleneck and is my PSU big enough? planning on upgrading the rest of the pc later down the line but don't have enough money for it right now so a gpu upgrade is probably the best right now. gonna play at 1080p at 144hz with good settings preferably, thinking about higher res screen down the line

Maybe me and my friend is just unlucky but our rtx2080 strix editions couldn't even be overclocked by 10mhz and not have to hard restart our computers and there was also artifacts... seems like on newegg alot of people have kinda the same problems that the rtx cards fail really quickly.

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6 hours ago, PokiDaSpitz said:

Maybe me and my friend is just unlucky but our rtx2080 strix editions couldn't even be overclocked by 10mhz and not have to hard restart our computers and there was also artifacts... seems like on newegg alot of people have kinda the same problems that the rtx cards fail really quickly.

Yeah i'm thinking of what to buy, as it seems right now i can't get a 1080 or a 1080ti that isn't super overpriced. i'm not super interested in RTX so doesn't really matter what card it is. but i'd like performance to be as good as possible for the price

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4 hours ago, Crunken said:

Yeah i'm thinking of what to buy, as it seems right now i can't get a 1080 or a 1080ti that isn't super overpriced. i'm not super interested in RTX so doesn't really matter what card it is. but i'd like performance to be as good as possible for the price

a 1070ti is the same as a 1080, this might help or may not too haha anyways good luck finding a card!

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11 hours ago, Crunken said:

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quite a large bottleneck there, the 2070 for 499 is a decent choice imho, unless you are planning to upgrade cpu soon.

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11 hours ago, Crunken said:

gonna play at 1080p at 144hz

Here is the problem, if you were going for 4k60fps or something like 3440x1440p100hz you could get away with it more likely but 1080p 144hz is the most CPU intensive setting.

 

High refresh rate is always CPU depended, if you keep turning down graphical settings you'll always improve how many frames your GPU can render HOWEVER if you reach the maximum your CPU can do to keep the GPU update with information on what to render next then there's pretty much nothing else to do.

 

Your locked 4770 will sadly as pointed out bottleneck the 2080 to such level it'd make no difference if you actually had the 2070.

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13 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Here is the problem, if you were going for 4k60fps or something like 3440x1440p100hz you could get away with it more likely but 1080p 144hz is the most CPU intensive setting.

 

High refresh rate is always CPU depended, if you keep turning down graphical settings you'll always improve how many frames your GPU can render HOWEVER if you reach the maximum your CPU can do to keep the GPU update with information on what to render next then there's pretty much nothing else to do.

 

Your locked 4770 will sadly as pointed out bottleneck the 2080 to such level it'd make no difference if you actually had the 2070.

i've been thinking more about it and i know it's a huge difference between the cards. but what about a 1070ti? i honestly don't need more than that right now and then i have more time to save money for a whole new pc later

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53 minutes ago, Crunken said:

but what about a 1070ti

If you can find a good deal on one it's certainly a good pick, it'll be an upgrade.

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On 12/31/2018 at 11:11 AM, Tarun10 said:

Yes it will be a bottleneck. I think it would be at least 25% reduction in FPS versus a 9900K if not more but if you plan to upgrade your PC later down the line then It shouldn't be a problem. That PSU is enough provided you don't OC your GPU too much. 

He can OC, he'll have like 150w spare (at peak load). I have 4690k/980 on 550w and it's fine (I did briefly oc to 4.9ghz, 1700/2100 for 3dmark with no power issues too). If you upgrade to one of those new 8 core cpu's then it'd be cutting it close or might need an upgrade then.

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1 hour ago, fringie said:

He can OC, he'll have like 150w spare (at peak load). I have 4690k/980 on 550w and it's fine (I did briefly oc to 4.9ghz, 1700/2100 for 3dmark with no power issues too). If you upgrade to one of those new 8 core cpu's then it'd be cutting it close or might need an upgrade then.

it's just a normal i7 4770 non k, so can't overclock it :P

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At 1080p basically everything bottlenecks a 2080 or 2080Ti. This is absolutely overkill and quite a waste of money unless you're planning on upgrading to a 1440p or 4k display in a few months. At 1080p it is absolutely a matter of CPU performance. At the moment, the 9900k is the peak but you could still throw in a faster CPU (if it becomes available) and get more fps, those GPUs don't max out at that resolution. If you're planning to stick to 1080p, get a 2070 (or a used 1080Ti for the same money, but it won't be pushed to its limits), heck a 1070 would probably suffice.

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21 hours ago, bowrilla said:

At 1080p basically everything bottlenecks a 2080 or 2080Ti. This is absolutely overkill and quite a waste of money unless you're planning on upgrading to a 1440p or 4k display in a few months. At 1080p it is absolutely a matter of CPU performance. At the moment, the 9900k is the peak but you could still throw in a faster CPU (if it becomes available) and get more fps, those GPUs don't max out at that resolution. If you're planning to stick to 1080p, get a 2070 (or a used 1080Ti for the same money, but it won't be pushed to its limits), heck a 1070 would probably suffice.

Yeah i think i'll go with a 1070ti, only a small difference in money compared to a 1070. sadly i can't get a 1080/1080ti new they're completely gone here (Sweden) Could get used one but haven't found a good deal yet and most have been used for quite a while and without any warranty

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On 1/1/2019 at 5:22 PM, Crunken said:

it's just a normal i7 4770 non k, so can't overclock it :P

oh ... xD. Well if you ever want to upgrade now you know

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9 hours ago, fringie said:

oh ... xD. Well if you ever want to upgrade now you know

Yeah, i got the CPU with a prebuilt PC (my first ever pc so didn't know a lot) but since buying that i've rebuilt and upgraded a lot. So yeah, now i know :D

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Looking at CPU/GPU times on my 2080 it appears the CPU is quite frequently the bottleneck.    They have a lot of headroom especially for the newer features.

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