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Is a 5960X + X99 a good route to go?

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Hey all,

I'm looking at buying PC parts for my upcoming build.

I've been deciding between Ryzen 7 and a B450 board, or a 5960X and an X99 board.

 

The Ryzen option would be this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor £247.99 @ Aria PC
Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard £95.99 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £343.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-31 00:50 GMT+0000  

 

and the 5960X option would be this: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-5960X 3 GHz 8-Core Processor £287.30
Motherboard Asus - X99-WS/IPMI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard £199.95
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £487.25
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-31 00:53 GMT+0000  

(I know the 5960X needs an aftermarket cooler, I'll be buying that seperately)

 

Which would be the better option to pick?  

Thanks :)

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The ryzen is better in every way.

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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Just now, Sauron said:

The ryzen is better in every way.

Looks like I'm going for Ryzen then. Thanks :) 

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2 minutes ago, 1kv said:

I'm looking at buying PC parts for my upcoming build.

I've been deciding between Ryzen 7 and a B450 board, or a 5960X and an X99 board.

5960x can easily be overclocked higher than the R7 2700, and the X99 motherboard that you're thinking of pairing with the 5960x is also really good. The 5960x also has more PCIe lanes than the R7 2700 (which may or may not matter to you).

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1 minute ago, r2724r16 said:

5960x can easily be overclocked higher than the R7 2700, and the X99 motherboard that you're thinking of pairing with the 5960x is also really good. The 5960x also has more PCIe lanes than the R7 2700 (which may or may not matter to you).

I was planning to overclock the system anyway. On userbenchmark they're pretty much neck and neck, but I'm re-considering the 5960X now because of that overclocking ability. 

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5 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

5960x can easily be overclocked higher than the R7 2700, and the X99 motherboard that you're thinking of pairing with the 5960x is also really good. The 5960x also has more PCIe lanes than the R7 2700 (which may or may not matter to you).

On the flip side, the IPC difference swings in favor of the Ryzen CPU, so a .2 GHz difference would still make me opt for Ryzen, especially because 3rd gen Ryzen will undoubtedly pass Haswell-E

 

1 minute ago, 1kv said:

I was planning to overclock the system anyway. On userbenchmark they're pretty much neck and neck, but I'm re-considering the 5960X now because of that overclocking ability. 

Userbenchmark is not that accurate.

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3 minutes ago, 1kv said:

I was planning to overclock the system anyway. On userbenchmark they're pretty much neck and neck, but I'm re-considering the 5960X now because of that overclocking ability. 

The R7 2700 tops out at around 4.2GHz (OC) while the 5960x can easily go past 4.6GHz (OC).

 

Of course, you'll need a decent CPU cooler if you want a decent overclock.

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Go for the AMD rig. the 5960x and x99 platform is dead. Not saying its bad, but there will be no upgrades for you.

 

3rd gen ryzen is supposedly great, ipc on point with Intel, overclocks to 5ghz, more cores.

 

Id opt for a platform thats basically halfway through its life cycle then a dead platform.

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3 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

easily go past 4.6GHz (OC).

No, my friend's is on a 240 rad and at 1.15 volts, 4.1GHz, and that's a good overclock. It would not be possible to reach 4.6GHz with his Corsair double rad.

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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3 minutes ago, airdeano said:

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Honestly I kinda also find it odd for for such an old CPU, the i7 5960X is obviously not bad but if you need a 8 cores nowadays it's really a no brainer either the Ryzen or if you got the cash the i7 9700K or i9 9900K, HEDT benefits are shrinking more and more and it's really just down to PCI-e Lanes nowdays... oh quad channel memory too which also only matters on specific scenarios.

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although the IPC is higher in the 5930x (better gaming with cores/clock speed), the ryzen is a bit better is splitting up priority tasks and can nipping at the heels with gaming not the priority.

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4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Honestly I kinda also find it odd for for such an old CPU, the i7 5960X is obviously not bad but if you need a 8 cores nowadays it's really a no brainer either the Ryzen or if you got the cash the i7 9700K or i9 9900K, HEDT benefits are shrinking more and more and it's really just down to PCI-e Lanes nowdays... oh quad channel memory too which also only matters on specific scenarios.

Yeah, it's just that they're going for a good price now so I wondered if the 5960X is still a good CPU. 

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7 minutes ago, airdeano said:

although the IPC is higher in the 5930x (better gaming with cores/clock speed), the ryzen is a bit better is splitting up priority tasks and can nipping at the heels with gaming not the priority.

IPC is lesser on the 5960x, Ryzen is close in IPC to current gen Intel but only loses out in single threaded performance due to slow clock speeds. Since the clock speeds of the 5960x are close to Ryzen, the Ryzen CPU would have similar if not better gaming performance. Not really sure about how Ryzen would be better at "splitting up priority tasks" but if it's due to some more advanced underlying technology then I wouldn't doubt it. Ultimately the Ryzen 7 just beats old Intel HEDT all around.

 

5 minutes ago, 1kv said:

Yeah, it's just that they're going for a good price now so I wondered if the 5960X is still a good CPU. 

It's in the midst of Intel's incumbency, which means they were sitting on ass when making it. No push for advancement means it wasn't that special, even though it was powerful. If you got it when it was new, it holds up, but it does not compete with current options, especially when it's mroe expensive.

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Just now, fasauceome said:

It's in the midst of Intel's incumbency, which means they were sitting on ass when making it. No push for advancement means it wasn't that special, even though it was powerful. If you got it when it was new, it holds up, but it does not compete with current options, especially when it's mroe expensive.

Alright, I guess I'll go for Ryzen. 

Thanks for your input everyone, I appreciate it.

 

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9 hours ago, r2724r16 said:

5960x can easily be overclocked higher than the R7 2700, and the X99 motherboard that you're thinking of pairing with the 5960x is also really good. The 5960x also has more PCIe lanes than the R7 2700 (which may or may not matter to you).

Even if it somehow made up for the difference in performance it wouldn't be by a lot and the price difference, together with the power draw and cooling requirements, makes it not worth it.

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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

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Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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