Good air cooler for max 60 euros

[Premoz1]

Looking for good air cooler for ryzen5 2600. I am using the stock cooler and it goes sometimes up to 70°C. Silent if possible, but its not that important. And rgb would be great but if you cant suggest any good ones for 60 euros its fine. 

[PopsicleHustler]

Dark Rock 4, Cryorig H7

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Dark Rock 4, Cryorig H7

No, Ryzen doesn't need a beefy cooler as its overall amount of heat produced/voltage needed increases exponentially after a certain point (4.1ghz ~ 1.3V iirc), so almost every half-decent cooler gets the same clockspeed of 4.2~4.3ghz max depending on silicon lottery before the voltage wall of 1.45V is hit.

 

20 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

Looking for good air cooler for ryzen5 2600. I am using the stock cooler and it goes sometimes up to 70°C. Silent if possible, but its not that important. And rgb would be great but if you cant suggest any good ones for 60 euros its fine. 

Gammaxx 400, be quiet! Pure Rock Slim, CRYORIG m9a 

 

Choose the cheapest out of the three

[LogicalDrm]

4 hours ago, ears_ears said:

No, Ryzen doesn't need a beefy cooler as its overall amount of heat produced/voltage needed increases exponentially after a certain point (4.1ghz ~ 1.3V iirc), so almost every half-decent cooler gets the same clockspeed of 4.2~4.3ghz max depending on silicon lottery before the voltage wall of 1.45V is hit.

 

Gammaxx 400, be quiet! Pure Rock Slim, CRYORIG m9a 

 

Choose the cheapest out of the three

 I don't understand why OP should pick budget cooler when they (probably) have AMD stock now. Feels like waste of money. Why not pick midrange cooler instead? Get temps down, noise down, and possibly bit higher OC in future.

 

70C isn't high temp at all, and I don't think getting budget cooler will help to lower temps while keeping noise down. Usually things don't work like that. Granted I haven't got experience on Ryzen, so I do believe you about heat output vs voltage. Still, all things considered higher end 120mm tower (U12S) or 140mm tower (Dark Rock 4, U14S, some Thermalright cooler) sounds like better pick if one is considering upgrading to begin with.

[Premoz1]

2 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

 I don't understand why OP should pick budget cooler when they (probably) have AMD stock now. Feels like waste of money. Why not pick midrange cooler instead? Get temps down, noise down, and possibly bit higher OC in future.

 

70C isn't high temp at all, and I don't think getting budget cooler will help to lower temps while keeping noise down. Usually things don't work like that. Granted I haven't got experience on Ryzen, so I do believe you about heat output vs voltage. Still, all things considered higher end 120mm tower (U12S) or 140mm tower (Dark Rock 4, U14S, some Thermalright cooler) sounds like better pick if one is considering upgrading to begin with.

What is the difference between noctua nh-d15 and dark rock 4? People say that nh-d15 is the best air cooler on the market. What are the temps difference? Just wondering because its 10e price difference

[LogicalDrm]

1 minute ago, Premoz1 said:

What is the difference between noctua nh-d15 and dark rock 4? People say that nh-d15 is the best air cooler on the market. What are the temps difference? Just wondering because its 10e price difference

Dark Rock 4 or Dark Rock Pro 4? DR4 is single tower and similar to Noctua's U14S in performance. D15 and DRP4 are dual towers. At the moment DRP4 is considered better with slightly lower temps (<5C) and less noise (according to reviews). Noctua has still superior warranty (6 years vs 3 years) and mounting system. Temp difference between single tower and dual tower is 5-10C.

[Quadriplegic]

Dark Rock 4, Brocken 3 (dual fan edition)

[Premoz1]

23 minutes ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

Dark Rock 4 or Dark Rock Pro 4? DR4 is single tower and similar to Noctua's U14S in performance. D15 and DRP4 are dual towers. At the moment DRP4 is considered better with slightly lower temps (<5C) and less noise (according to reviews). Noctua has still superior warranty (6 years vs 3 years) and mounting system. Temp difference between single tower and dual tower is 5-10C.

I get dark rock 4.

[WoodenMarker]

2 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

D15 and DRP4 are dual towers. At the moment DRP4 is considered better with slightly lower temps (<5C) and less noise (according to reviews)

What reviews are you looking at? Most of what I've seen shows the NH-D15 performing better with the DRP4 performing as well or just better than the NH-D15S at best. 

 

Examples:

https://www.eteknix.com/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-air-cooler-review/

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/beQuiet/Dark_Rock_Pro_4/6.html

https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/cpu-air-coolers/8875-be-quiet-dark-rock-4-dark-rock-pro-4-cpu-coolers-review?showall=&amp;start=5

https://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/kuehler/be_quiet_dark_rock_pro_4/s05.php

https://turbofuture.com/computers/Noctua-NH-D15-SE-AM4-vs-be-quiet-Dark-Rock-Pro-4-CPU-Cooler

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/kuehlung/46064-be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-und-dark-rock-4-im-doppeltest.html?start=7

https://www.pcbuildersclub.com/2018/09/luftkuehlertest-2018-18-cpu-kuehler-im-ausfuehrlichen-sommertest/#Testprogramme_und_Tesmodi

http://game2gether.de/os_hardware/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-test-review/

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/be_quiet_dark_rock_pro_4_review,9.html

http://www.comptoir-hardware.com/articles/refroidissement/36134-test-be-quiet-dark-rock-4-a-dark-rock-pro-4.html?start=3

https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/blog/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-review/

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8842/quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html

https://whatnext.pl/test-chlodzenia-noctua-nh-d15s/

https://www.hardwaremax.net/reviews/kuehler/1496-test-be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-und-dark-rock-4?showall=&amp;start=4

https://youtu.be/Wk3B_f2MXx4?t=231

 

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DR4 is single tower and similar to Noctua's U14S in performance.

The DR4 tends to be closer to the NH-U12S in performance. 

 

Examples:

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/12/13/scythe_ninja_5_cpu_air_cooler_review/3

https://www.conseil-config.com/2018/test-be-quiet-dark-rock-4/4/

Not exactly the DR4 here but to show how the NH-U12S compares to the similar DR3: https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/cpu_air_cooler_mega_test/39

[LogicalDrm]

3 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

What reviews are you looking at? Most of what I've seen shows the NH-D15 performing better with the DRP4 performing as well or just better than the NH-D15S at best.

 

I don’t remember anymore. I checked few right when reviews were out. I just remember DRP4 being slightly better in both. Performance at least, noise was better on low fan speeds if memory serves.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

 I don't understand why OP should pick budget cooler when they (probably) have AMD stock now. Feels like waste of money. Why not pick midrange cooler instead? Get temps down, noise down, and possibly bit higher OC in future.

 

70C isn't high temp at all, and I don't think getting budget cooler will help to lower temps while keeping noise down. Usually things don't work like that. Granted I haven't got experience on Ryzen, so I do believe you about heat output vs voltage. Still, all things considered higher end 120mm tower (U12S) or 140mm tower (Dark Rock 4, U14S, some Thermalright cooler) sounds like better pick if one is considering upgrading to begin with.

My point is that you can get the same OC on a budget cooler like the three I listed as even a beefy cooler like the NH-D15 or Thermalright LGM, because of Ryzen's exponential clockspeed : voltage graph after 4.1ghz. 

 

Also, I think you are far underestimating the capability of these budget coolers. When the AMD stock cooler (wraith stealth) can only oc to ~3.8-3.9ghz or so, the G400 can oc to ~4.2-4.3ghz (depending on silicon lottery). Getting a higher end 120mm tower or 140mm tower would makes zero difference. 

 

 

[LogicalDrm]

17 minutes ago, ears_ears said:

My point is that you can get the same OC on a budget cooler like the three I listed as even a beefy cooler like the NH-D15 or Thermalright LGM, because of Ryzen's exponential clockspeed : voltage graph after 4.1ghz. 

 

Also, I think you are far underestimating the capability of these budget coolers. When the AMD stock cooler (wraith stealth) can only oc to ~3.8-3.9ghz or so, the G400 can oc to ~4.2-4.3ghz (depending on silicon lottery). Getting a higher end 120mm tower or 140mm tower would makes zero difference.

 

Considering OP didn't mention about OCing, just that they want silence and temps lower than 70C, I would like to hear your opinion considering that. If OCing isn't main thing, but temps and noise are, do budget coolers hold their place?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

 

Considering OP didn't mention about OCing, just that they want silence and temps lower than 70C, I would like to hear your opinion considering that. If OCing isn't main thing, but temps and noise are, do budget coolers hold their place?

If OCing isn't the main thing OP is fine to keep the stock cooler. 

 

No cooler holds their place, not even budget or high-end, with a stock 2600. It's pointless to keep temps below 70C as that is already way below temps you should worry about. And OP hasn't commented if he had noise problems or not, but if he did, it wouldn't be hard to swap the stock cooler for one of the three I listed and keep silence.

[Premoz1]

3 minutes ago, ears_ears said:

If OCing isn't the main thing OP is fine to keep the stock cooler. 

 

No cooler holds their place, not even budget or high-end, with a stock 2600. It's pointless to keep temps below 70C as that is already way below temps you should worry about. And OP hasn't commented if he had noise problems or not, but if he did, it wouldn't be hard to swap the stock cooler for one of the three I listed and keep silence.

no, sound is not problem. And I think that 70 is too much. Because I want to use this processor as much as I can, and making its lifespan longer I want to keep temps low. If its all the time 70 compared to ex. 45-50, you can say that it will live longer.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

no, sound is not problem. And I think that 70 is too much. Because I want to use this processor as much as I can, and making its lifespan longer I want to keep temps low. If its all the time 70 compared to ex. 45-50, you can say that it will live longer.

Keep the damn stock cooler then! 

 

It's beyond pointless to worry about 70C. The lifetime difference between that and 45-50C will probably be zero. Or in this case, probably the difference between 14 and 15 years, in which case you would have already upgraded multiple times from the 2600. Say, how good is the Athlon 64 doing in today's times?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Arctic Freezer 33 eSports ONE, or CR H7

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, ears_ears said:

Keep the damn stock cooler then!

Look, its fine to give out your point. But purpose of the forums isn't converting everybody to follow your advice/opinion. Just note the point where OP or whoever has acknowledged your point, but still is asking for recommendations when they are gonna go their way. At that point you should stop arguing and leave the thread. Or continue to help them on their search without patronizing their decision.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

Look, its fine to give out your point. But purpose of the forums isn't converting everybody to follow your advice/opinion. Just note the point where OP or whoever has acknowledged your point, but still is asking for recommendations when they are gonna go their way. At that point you should stop arguing and leave the thread. Or continue to help them on their search without patronizing their decision.

I couldn't care less about OP at this point, I just don't want anyone else to be misguided into thinking an aftermarket cooler is necessary for a stock 2600.

[LogicalDrm]

Just now, ears_ears said:

I couldn't care less about OP at this point, I just don't want anyone else to be misguided into thinking an aftermarket cooler is necessary for a stock 2600.

I must wonder why you would think that anybody thinks about this considering this thread. You were only one to bring that even up...

[Premoz1]

2 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

I must wonder why you would think that anybody thinks about this considering this thread. You were only one to bring that even up...

Exactly. What you think yourself? Does it add lifespan for the processor? Atleast what I have heard is that 70 celsius for ryzen5 2600 is the top limit. And I am upgrading my pc case to Kolink observatory rgb. I got nearly 10 year old antec that I got free from guy I bought my gpu. So does Dark Rock 4 fit into that case? It says 159,4 x 136 x 74,3 mm on the processor, and in case it says that maximum height for cpu cooler is 160mm. So is it only 0,6mm free space? Ja hyvää uutta vuotta :DD

[LogicalDrm]

47 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

Exactly. What you think yourself? Does it add lifespan for the processor? Atleast what I have heard is that 70 celsius for ryzen5 2600 is the top limit.

 

Not the way that you would notice. CPU lifespan is over 10 years. You can shorten it, sure, but I don't think running it cool will make a difference. Stock coolers are designed to keep CPU at safe temps under normal use conditions (no OC). If you want lower temps, thats your decision.

 

47 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

And I am upgrading my pc case to Kolink observatory rgb. I got nearly 10 year old antec that I got free from guy I bought my gpu. So does Dark Rock 4 fit into that case? It says 159,4 x 136 x 74,3 mm on the processor, and in case it says that maximum height for cpu cooler is 160mm. So is it only 0,6mm free space? 

 

Yeah, it'll fit. Case manufacturers tend to give few mm to spare, sometimes more.

 

47 minutes ago, Premoz1 said:

Ja hyvää uutta vuotta :DD

 

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