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xeon x5670 + amd r9 380 4gb? good combo?

Hey guyz..

Sorry for my bad english..

 

Guyz i have a x5670 at Stock my motherboard can not overclock so i have to stick with that and can't change the processor right now.. i was buying an r9 380 for for exact 100$ USD from a use store.. (ebay,amazon and other famous webs doesn't support my country) and i think that is a really good deal for me.. i wanted to ask will my setup give me 1080p low 60 fps? on modern titles.. games that i wanted to play right now are .. Fortnite, PUBG, GTA 5, Doom, Battlefield 1 but i will play more modern titles..

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22 minutes ago, Muhammad Osama said:

1080p low 60 fps

Unlikely. Doom especially is hard on resources. Fortnite will run well on anything, but GTA5 and PUBG might present issues.

That Xeon is very old (I have a pair myself) and it doesn't like being overclocked, so I think you are stuck with it as it is

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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2 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Unlikely. Doom especially is hard on resources. Fortnite will run well on anything, but GTA5 and PUBG might present issues.

That Xeon is very old (I have a pair myself) and it doesn't like being overclocked, so I think you are stuck with it as it is

oh god :( i m stuck.. i thought it will perform well

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1 hour ago, Muhammad Osama said:

oh god :( i m stuck.. i thought it will perform well

Not at 1080p...start at low settings with say 720p, and go up from there, see where you peak.

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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You should be able to pull off 1080p low. Maybe even higher. x5670 may be older but your biggest issue is the graphics card here.

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7 hours ago, Hunter259 said:

You should be able to pull off 1080p low. Maybe even higher. x5670 may be older but your biggest issue is the graphics card here.

according to my knowledge r9 380 is similar to a 1050ti and i saw 1050ti benchmarks and r9 380 benchmarks.. and accroding to them i could achieve 60 fps at 1080p on most games.. am i right?

 

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8 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Not at 1080p...start at low settings with say 720p, and go up from there, see where you peak.

i will buy r9 380 next week.. then i will benchmark it and leave all the benchmarks here

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also wanted to mention i have w3565 which is a 4 core processor but the clock speed of that is a little bit higher.. but i also asked the peoples about that and most of them said me to to stick with x5670 

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10 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Unlikely. Doom especially is hard on resources. Fortnite will run well on anything, but GTA5 and PUBG might present issues.

That Xeon is very old (I have a pair myself) and it doesn't like being overclocked, so I think you are stuck with it as it is

 

9 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Not at 1080p...start at low settings with say 720p, and go up from there, see where you peak.

 

8 hours ago, Hunter259 said:

You should be able to pull off 1080p low. Maybe even higher. x5670 may be older but your biggest issue is the graphics card here.

Honestly what are you guys on about? The r9 380 is at the level of an ~1050ti, directx wise it can fall short max 5 fps compared to the 1050ti in some games but in vulkan it gets quite a boost compared to the 1050ti. Being at 1050TI level puts it at a place where in most games he can get away with medium to high settings at 1080p 60 fps, based on the card alone, if your not sure why post and confuse the man?

 

11 hours ago, Muhammad Osama said:

Hey guyz..

Sorry for my bad english..

 

Guyz i have a x5670 at Stock my motherboard can not overclock so i have to stick with that and can't change the processor right now.. i was buying an r9 380 for for exact 100$ USD from a use store.. (ebay,amazon and other famous webs doesn't support my country) and i think that is a really good deal for me.. i wanted to ask will my setup give me 1080p low 60 fps? on modern titles.. games that i wanted to play right now are .. Fortnite, PUBG, GTA 5, Doom, Battlefield 1 but i will play more modern titles..

With those specs you should get away in most games with 1080p 60fps at medium to high settings, with doom maybe even some ultra tweaked settings because its an vulkan game. Battlefield 1 takes excelent advantage of multicore solutions and its pretty well optimized, i dunno abouth high but medium shouldn't be an issue. GTA5 should run fairly well to. The only problem is PUBG, it shouldn't even be an issue based on the graphics, but the game is really badly optimized, so maybe you should get away with low 1080p 60 fps ? Even then expect some dips.

 

PS: personally i also think that you should stick to the x5670.

 

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1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

 

 

Honestly what are you guys on about? The r9 380 is at the level of an ~1050ti, directx wise it can fall short max 5 fps compared to the 1050ti in some games but in vulkan it gets quite a boost compared to the 1050ti. Being at 1050TI level puts it at a place where in most games he can get away with medium to high settings at 1080p 60 fps, based on the card alone, if your not sure why post and confuse the man?

 

With those specs you should get away in most games with 1080p 60fps at medium to high settings, with doom maybe even some ultra tweaked settings because its an vulkan game. Battlefield 1 takes excelent advantage of multicore solutions and its pretty well optimized, i dunno abouth high but medium shouldn't be an issue. GTA5 should run fairly well to. The only problem is PUBG, it shouldn't even be an issue based on the graphics, but the game is really badly optimized, so maybe you should get away with low 1080p 60 fps ? Even then expect some dips.

 

PS: personally i also think that you should stick to the x5670.

 

thank god.. thank you soo much for that brief explanation.. those guys actually confused me alot.. because i build this pc by doing much reserch about the components.. also wanted to ask that i have a dell 525 watt powersupply which has two 6 pin which is required by the graphic card.. and it is also 80+ white.. i also wanted to ask can i stick to that power supply for some time?

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1 hour ago, Muhammad Osama said:

thank god.. thank you soo much for that brief explanation.. those guys actually confused me alot.. because i build this pc by doing much reserch about the components.. also wanted to ask that i have a dell 525 watt powersupply which has two 6 pin which is required by the graphic card.. and it is also 80+ white.. i also wanted to ask can i stick to that power supply for some time?

Can you tell me the exact model of the r9 380 and the exact model of the power supply and how aged the psu is? I just want to check them out to be sure but for most scenarios  yes, for the average system with a standard r9 380 a 500w decent supply is considered the minimum, so it should hold out till you get a replacement which i sugest to be in the 550-650w range.

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1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

Can you tell me the exact model of the r9 380 and the exact model of the power supply and how aged the psu is? I just want to check them out to be sure but for most scenarios  yes, for the average system with a standard r9 380 a 500w decent supply is considered the minimum, so it should hold out till you get a replacement which i sugest to be in the 550-650w range.

amd r9 380 from saphire nitro 4 gb dual fan versionsasa.thumb.jpg.46c16a9a8091c9dac5f29297442f7301.jpg and this is the powersupply.. i pulled it out from the t3400 and connect it with t3500.. it is used for about 6 months.. though i m not sure about that because i picked this pc in use condition

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Thanks, what i wanted to check out was that if it was a standard psu or one of those quircky ones that was fitted mainly for their systems, but it seems standard, so with that out of the way the Sapphire requires 2x6 pin connectors, if the psu has that then no worry. Personally I'm not familiar enough with dell psu's quality wise to say how fast or if you should even bother with a new psu. If you do get a new one get something like 550w or  better ~650w for some headroom, 80+ certified (bronze, gold, silver, white don't matter unless your really keen on saving energy) just get something of good quality and it will last you till your bored with it (for example i have in one of my pc's an over 10 year old seasonic bronze psu which still runs smoothly for example).

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55 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

Thanks, what i wanted to check out was that if it was a standard psu or one of those quircky ones that was fitted mainly for their systems, but it seems standard, so with that out of the way the Sapphire requires 2x6 pin connectors, if the psu has that then no worry. Personally I'm not familiar enough with dell psu's quality wise to say how fast or if you should even bother with a new psu. If you do get a new one get something like 550w or  better ~650w for some headroom, 80+ certified (bronze, gold, silver, white don't matter unless your really keen on saving energy) just get something of good quality and it will last you till your bored with it (for example i have in one of my pc's an over 10 year old seasonic bronze psu which still runs smoothly for example).

thanks for being that nice to me.. i again wanted to confirm can my combo provide me a good 1080p gaming?

 

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2 hours ago, Muhammad Osama said:

thanks for being that nice to me.. i again wanted to confirm can my combo provide me a good 1080p gaming?

 

lol, its a given, this is a thread and section made for supporting and talking about various hardware related issues, being nice should come in the package :p.

 

TL;DR version: For most modern games out there you shouldn't have an issue with 1080p 60 FPS at medium to high settings.

 

And for a more elaborated reply: In most gaming cases, like i said 1080p 60 FPS at medium to high settings its no problem, with cases such as Battlefield 1 and Doom there's not much to worry about because BF1 is pretty well optimized and even though its CPU intensive its one of the games that deals the best with more then 4 cores (one of the very few (and i must really stress out the "very few" part) games that properly took advantage of my OC FX8300). Doom on the other hand runs on Vulkan, something that the R9 380 is very good at using (with vulkan titles the 380 has definitely better results then the 1050TI for instance). The only problems i can think of you will have is with unoptimized games, games like PUBG (which is a mess, as i said expect under 60 FPS dips even with low settings), Fallout 76 (hell even FO4 has its number of issues where it can bring even the strongest of systems to an under 60 FPS frame drop, and that one has community fixes).

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8 hours ago, Strike105X said:

Honestly what are you guys on about?

Mostly because the CPU is very old, and even paired with an amazing video card, you will run up against the limits of the CPU. Which is why I suggested starting at a lower setting, and gradually crank it up until the game starts to stutter, then you will know how much you can push the system, as opposed to starting at max and being frustrated with the results..

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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16 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Mostly because the CPU is very old, and even paired with an amazing video card, you will run up against the limits of the CPU. Which is why I suggested starting at a lower setting, and gradually crank it up until the game starts to stutter, then you will know how much you can push the system, as opposed to starting at max and being frustrated with the results..

 

My bad I should have been more specific then just sticking to the r9 380 example, and double check the post, of course when i said that, your comments regarding the x5670 where also included and it applies to them, even more so since you said you had one, but you don't seem to be aware of what the CPU is capable of, your advice to lower settings for improving the CPU bottleneck where wrong on a fundamental level as well, its in reverse. You know what the primary way to specifically CPU benchmark a game is ? To lower the resolution and graphic detail as much as possible (of course while leaving ON effects that are also dependent on CPU) so that the gpu wont affect the CPU abilities for as much as possible. Generally (when the discrepancy isn't to large) to balance out CPU bottlenecks you try increasing the gpu load. Not to mention that the x5670 at stock is more then capable of running GTA5 at 60 FPS, BF1 as well, its especially good with games that can use all of its cores despite its age. Again the intention of wanting to help others is very much welcomed and appreciated, but if your not prepared with the knowledge to do so then skip over towards someone you can properly help, as the way it was done here it will only cause confusion and maybe to some lower extent even damage (monetary damage, not physical one of course, by this i mean that in some thoughtless moment he could have thrown one of the components, or sold them, its a really extreme example but you get what i'm saying). 

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1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

lol, its a given, this is a thread and section made for supporting and talking about various hardware related issues, being nice should come in the package :p.

 

TL;DR version: For most modern games out there you shouldn't have an issue with 1080p 60 FPS at medium to high settings.

 

And for a more elaborated reply: In most gaming cases, like i said 1080p 60 FPS at medium to high settings its no problem, with cases such as Battlefield 1 and Doom there's not much to worry about because BF1 is pretty well optimized and even though its CPU intensive its one of the games that deals the best with more then 4 cores (one of the very few (and i must really stress out the "very few" part) games that properly took advantage of my OC FX8300). Doom on the other hand runs on Vulkan, something that the R9 380 is very good at using (with vulkan titles the 380 has definitely better results then the 1050TI for instance). The only problems i can think of you will have is with unoptimized games, games like PUBG (which is a mess, as i said expect under 60 FPS dips even with low settings), Fallout 76 (hell even FO4 has its number of issues where it can bring even the strongest of systems to an under 60 FPS frame drop, and that one has community fixes).

haha then i m with the package ?

 

And my confusion is gone i can finally game now :D

 

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15 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

 

My bad I should have been more specific then just sticking to the r9 380 example, and double check the post, of course when i said that, your comments regarding the x5670 where also included and it applies to them, even more so since you said you had one, but you don't seem to be aware of what the CPU is capable of, your advice to lower settings for improving the CPU bottleneck where wrong on a fundamental level as well, its in reverse. You know what the primary way to specifically CPU benchmark a game is ? To lower the resolution and graphic detail as much as possible (of course while leaving ON effects that are also dependent on CPU) so that the gpu wont affect the CPU abilities for as much as possible. Generally (when the discrepancy isn't to large) to balance out CPU bottlenecks you try increasing the gpu load. Not to mention that the x5670 at stock is more then capable of running GTA5 at 60 FPS, BF1 as well, its especially good with games that can use all of its cores despite its age. Again the intention of wanting to help others is very much welcomed and appreciated, but if your not prepared with the knowledge to do so then skip over towards someone you can properly help, as the way it was done here it will only cause confusion and maybe to some lower extent even damage (monetary damage, not physical one of course, by this i mean that in some thoughtless moment he could have thrown one of the components, or sold them, its a really extreme example but you get what i'm saying). 

i am agree with the fact u explained i literally started to contact with some peoples having w3680 which has much better clock although i was note ready but now i will buy the gpu first and then in the future i will change or upgrade my pc but right i could only purchase a graphics card :) also wanted to ask that for 100$ USD in use condition is it a good price?

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2 minutes ago, Muhammad Osama said:

i am agree with the fact u explained i literally started to contact with some peoples having w3680 which has much better clock although i was note ready but now i will buy the gpu first and then in the future i will change or upgrade my pc but right i could only purchase a graphics card :) also wanted to ask that for 100$ USD in use condition is it a good price?

That i can't help you with, something tells me where not nearly close in the same geographical region :P , you see prices can differ quite a lot depending by region, what its a deal for me may not be one for you and viceversa (btw if your curious compared to the prices here its a steal at that price ?). You'd probably get better answers for that checking the local websites for used hardware, or if you are from the US or Canada someone here should be able to advise you properly.

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4 hours ago, Strike105X said:

That i can't help you with, something tells me where not nearly close in the same geographical region :P , you see prices can differ quite a lot depending by region, what its a deal for me may not be one for you and viceversa (btw if your curious compared to the prices here its a steal at that price ?). You'd probably get better answers for that checking the local websites for used hardware, or if you are from the US or Canada someone here should be able to advise you properly.

i m not from us or canada.. i m from pakistan its an asian country.. i know i m asking u alot of things.. but this time last question :P do you think that is there any card which could be cheaper but same in performance to r9 380? also wanted to mention that 1050ti is very expensive then r9 380 so its not an option

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36 minutes ago, Muhammad Osama said:

i m not from us or canada.. i m from pakistan its an asian country.. i know i m asking u alot of things.. but this time last question :P do you think that is there any card which could be cheaper but same in performance to r9 380? also wanted to mention that 1050ti is very expensive then r9 380 so its not an option

I had a (online) friend from there, hope things are going better. Also nobody is forcing me, i'm here because i want to, so ask as much as you want, if i can answer it will be my pleasure ? . As for the question, the only other card i can think of in that range is the 4Gb version of the NVIDIA 960GTX, easier on the power requirements but less vulkan performance (basically similarly to the 1050TI), but it should still drive fine doom medium to high (at 1080p 60 FPS), i still like the r9 more especially since its Sapphire, but i'm biased here as i just am more fond of AMD cards, so do take a note of that, as if the price is right its good to also the the 4Gb version of the 960GTX into consideration.

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47 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

I had a (online) friend from there, hope things are going better. Also nobody is forcing me, i'm here because i want to, so ask as much as you want, if i can answer it will be my pleasure ? . As for the question, the only other card i can think of in that range is the 4Gb version of the NVIDIA 960GTX, easier on the power requirements but less vulkan performance (basically similarly to the 1050TI), but it should still drive fine doom medium to high (at 1080p 60 FPS), i still like the r9 more especially since its Sapphire, but i'm biased here as i just am more fond of AMD cards, so do take a note of that, as if the price is right its good to also the the 4Gb version of the 960GTX into consideration.

unfortunately 4 gb model is not available in my country online store.. but if it was available it is for sure more expensive then the r9 380 because 2 gb model is a little bit expensive then an r9 380.. so it has to be more expensive so i should with r9 380

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10 minutes ago, Muhammad Osama said:

unfortunately 4 gb model is not available in my country online store.. but if it was available it is for sure more expensive then the r9 380 because 2 gb model is a little bit expensive then an r9 380.. so it has to be more expensive so i should with r9 380

Well except for its power consumption its not a bad card so hopefully it will serve you well :) .

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