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Suggestions for buying 6 - 8 TB hard disks

xailander
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Hi guys

1. Max 400 euro

2. 6tb -  8 TB (2 if it's good to go up a bit in price)

3. For gaming only

WD Black or something else? Toshiba I had two  in my hands so I would not want it

 

any  suggestions?

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These are probably your best bets:

Performance: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bGZ2FT/western-digital-black-6tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd6002fzwx

Also performance: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pBRFf7/seagate-barracuda-pro-8tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st8000dm0004

Price: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/89Nypg/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-hdwe160xzsta

I wouldn't get the Toshiba drive unless you really want to save money. My personal recommendation would go to the WD drive because both Seagate drives I've owned have failed on my way before they should've even started getting old.

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Just now, kelvinhall05 said:

what is  your  opinion  for  the Western Digital - Black 6 TB 3.5? and  baraguda pro  8TB   in  quality,  fails,. problems, performance?

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Just now, xailander said:

 

2 minutes ago, xailander said:

what is  your  opinion  for  the Western Digital - Black 6 TB 3.5? and  baraguda pro  8TB   in  quality,  fails,. problems, performance?

Like I said, they'll probably have similar performance (WD Blacks are meant for performance, while the Seagate is also pretty fast but also has double the cache), and obviously, the Seagate has two more terabytes of storage. As for reliability, I don't trust Seagates, but lots of people do. I'd still personally go with the WD drive.

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16 minutes ago, xailander said:

any  suggestions?

WD drives have failed on me the most, while Seagate and Toshiba drives have been the most reliable. That being said, others may think that WD drives are more reliable. WD Black drives have faster read speeds than Barracuda Pro drives, but Barracuda Pro drives have faster write speeds. 

19 minutes ago, xailander said:

3. For gaming only

Get a WD Black, since write speeds don't really matter for gaming.

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Really any drive is fine, just look for the best price that fits your budget.

 

Everyone has had a horror story or 2 with a certain type of drive, I have had a lot of Seagate drives die on me (the dreaded 7200.12 3TB's, I had a bunch in a NAS, and half died) but that was a bad batch of drives, and is not the norm. WD has had issues, really everyone has. If you want to get a feel for drive lifetime and reliability, check out Backblaze's reliability metrics here. This will give you a general feel for who makes good vs bad drives (they really all do fine).

 

As far as speed goes, yea, a WD black is a bit faster, but for MASS storage of games, really most drives will be similar imo. If you have a few games you play often, keep them on SSD, or use a program like steam mover which lets you "easily" move games from one drive to another so you can move games around that go from "I play this often" to "I play this once a month" from SSD to HDD as your game preferences change.

 

You can find a seagate 6TB for 219 USD on amazon prime right now, or buy this 10 TB external WD drive for 230 buck! (8TB version is 149!!!) and remove the drive from its enclosure and put it into your PC, and then with the "extra" money on your 400 euro budget, slap a 1 TB SSD in there as well for more often played games. 11 TB total for ~400 eruo!

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is it worth to  buy  Western Digital Red Pro 8TB    and   Western Digital Purple 8TB    hardisks?

 

 

 

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Just now, xailander said:

is it worth to  buy  Western Digital Red Pro 8TB    and   Western Digital Purple 8TB    hardisks?

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, xailander said:

No, reds are for use in NAS applications that will be on 24/7, in RAID (thus more vibrations in the chassis and requirements for different head parking firmware so the drives don't drop out of the array), and purple is for video surveillance which I am not sure 100% about, but I bet they are similar to reds without the head parking firmware change.

 

For home use, Green, Blue and Black is totally fine.

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well, just to add, i had all companies that exist for HDDs. Samsung, Hitachi, Seagate, Toshiba, WD, all of them never failed early on me. i would suggest looking for the best you can get for your money, not the company you're buying from. and i assumd you have some money, just buy 2 and put them in a raid array (exept for raid 0), so one can fail without losing any data

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1 minute ago, xailander said:

 

the black is faster, but also much more expensive. a blue should get the job done too. ironwolf would be a good one to look at. if you really want it to be reliable, get two of them and put them in a raid (1 5 6 10 for example)

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

can  you explain  me the positives and the  negatives  for raid (1 5 6 10  and  which raid is better??

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Just now, xailander said:

what is your opinion for The Toshiba X300  6  and ;;8 TB  hardisk drives?

 

Toshiba X300 8TB are better from segeate baraguda pro 8tb and western black 6TB.?

in performance,,,, failures and quality?

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