3D Rendering PC Build Help/Suggestions Needed

[zoni]

I am fairly new to PC building, I have made one before but just followed somebody else's list of parts. My previous build was gaming oriented but now I need a PC strictly for 3D modelling and rendering.

 

From some research I believe that rendering is heavily CPU based especially with the Corona Renderer and on the other hand, real time rendering is GPU based and modelling large dense scenes with materials requires a lot of RAM. I mostly need fast "non-realtime" renders so I want most (75%) of my budget of $1000 to go towards my CPU and RAM.

 

Also should I get an extra SSD to put my OS and main files or is not worth it in terms of performance speed once in the software (3Ds Max)?

 

I genuinely appreciate you taking your time to read this, and helping me with superior knowledge :P 

If you have any NewEgg affiliate codes I will gladly use them - its the least I can do :)

Again thank you so much and I am looking forward to your response!

 

PS. I don’t need any peripherals or OS, and it would be ideal if any of your suggestions where on NewEgg.

[JammyCreedog]

I think you would benefit from using an AMD Ryzen 7 2700 in your pc build.

Pair that cpu with a 2x16gb kit of ddr4 3200 RAM from either Gskill or Corsair.

You don't need all the features of an X470 motherboard. Go with a B450 one from Asus or MSI.

Yes, you need an ssd for your OS.  They're getting pretty cheap now. Get a 250GB from Samsung.

For mass file storage use a Seagate barracuda 2TB.

For graphics, i'd recommend a Nvidia gtx 1050ti. It's not the biggest and baddest but it works.

For case, look at the Cougar MX330. It has plenty of dust filters to keep your components clean.

Power supply should be at least 500 watts and preferably gold rated, or at least bronze. Corsair CX550M fills those requirements.

Look around for sales in the next week or two and that'll pull this under $1000.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($259.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($254.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1014.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 09:24 EST-0500

 

[zoni]

Firstly thank you very much for taking your time to help me with your suggestion. The build looks really good and something along the lines that I have been looking at. The only thing is I don't think I really need a video card at this moment as I am not planning on doing any real time render.

 

So I would want to put as much money into my CPU as possible and later down the road to invest in a decent GPU similar to the one you suggested. So do you think I can get away with just using the integrated GPU in the CPU or Motherboard (Not really sure which one). If so can you suggest a more powerful CPU with the extra budget.

 

Also it doesn't look like you included a CPU fan does the one you have chosen come with one? If not is this a good option:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA96K88W0872

 

Thanks again!

[zoni]

9 hours ago, JammyCreedog said:

I think you would benefit from using an AMD Ryzen 7 2700 in your pc build.

Pair that cpu with a 2x16gb kit of ddr4 3200 RAM from either Gskill or Corsair.

You don't need all the features of an X470 motherboard. Go with a B450 one from Asus or MSI.

Yes, you need an ssd for your OS.  They're getting pretty cheap now. Get a 250GB from Samsung.

For mass file storage use a Seagate barracuda 2TB.

For graphics, i'd recommend a Nvidia gtx 1050ti. It's not the biggest and baddest but it works.

For case, look at the Cougar MX330. It has plenty of dust filters to keep your components clean.

Power supply should be at least 500 watts and preferably gold rated, or at least bronze. Corsair CX550M fills those requirements.

Look around for sales in the next week or two and that'll pull this under $1000.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($259.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($128.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($254.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1014.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 09:24 EST-0500

 

Firstly thank you very much for taking your time to help me with your suggestion. The build looks really good and something along the lines that I have been looking at. The only thing is I don't think I really need a video card at this moment as I am not planning on doing any real time render.

 

So I would want to put as much money into my CPU as possible and later down the road to invest in a decent GPU similar to the one you suggested. So do you think I can get away with just using the integrated GPU in the CPU or Motherboard (Not really sure which one). If so can you suggest a more powerful CPU with the extra budget.

 

Also it doesn't look like you included a CPU fan does the one you have chosen come with one? If not is this a good option:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA96K88W0872

 

Thanks again!

[brob]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.86 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($209.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P1000 4 GB Video Card  ($305.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($87.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1004.71
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 19:27 EST-0500

[JammyCreedog]

10 hours ago, zoni said:

Firstly thank you very much for taking your time to help me with your suggestion. The build looks really good and something along the lines that I have been looking at. The only thing is I don't think I really need a video card at this moment as I am not planning on doing any real time render.

 

So I would want to put as much money into my CPU as possible and later down the road to invest in a decent GPU similar to the one you suggested. So do you think I can get away with just using the integrated GPU in the CPU or Motherboard (Not really sure which one). If so can you suggest a more powerful CPU with the extra budget.

 

Also it doesn't look like you included a CPU fan does the one you have chosen come with one? If not is this a good option:

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA96K88W0872

 

Thanks again!

The Ryzen 7 2700 does include a stock heatsink, however it does not have onboard graphics. CPU's from Intel do have onboard graphics and the non K variants also come with heatsinks. I swapped out the cpu and motherboard and eliminated the graphics card which shaved $100 off the build cost.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($314.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.15 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($254.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $859.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 23:10 EST-0500

[zoni]

13 hours ago, brob said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.86 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($209.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY - Quadro P1000 4 GB Video Card  ($305.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($87.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1004.71
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 19:27 EST-0500

Thanks for the list! I am not really looking for a video card right now I want to spend as much money as I can on my CPU and use integrated graphics so later I can buy a decent one down the line.

[zoni]

9 hours ago, JammyCreedog said:

The Ryzen 7 2700 does include a stock heatsink, however it does not have onboard graphics. CPU's from Intel do have onboard graphics and the non K variants also come with heatsinks. I swapped out the cpu and motherboard and eliminated the graphics card which shaved $100 off the build cost.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($314.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.15 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($254.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($52.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $859.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-23 23:10 EST-0500

Thank you again so very much

 

Is that motherboard good? Also with that extra budget I would like to spend a but more or the CPU and also an extra fan like this (Do you think that would be fine?):

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099&Description=Hyper 212 LED with PWM Fan&cm_re=Hyper_212_LED_with_PWM_Fan-_-35-103-099-_-Product

 

Also I have heard that its not a good idea to have "un-balanced" components? So if I get a $400-$500 CPU will it cause bottlenecking with my "cheaper" motherboard? If so which motherboard would you recommend along with a CPU.

 

I have been looking at this, Ive done some tests on user benchmark and it seems to be up in the rankings?

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-117-957&cm_sp=SearchSuccess-_-INFOCARD-_-core+i7-_-19-117-957-_-2&Description=core+i7

 

Thanks

[JammyCreedog]

The Intel Core i9 9900k is the fastest consumer level cpu out right now.  That title does come at a high cost tho, spending 40% more than the 8700 will not get you 40% better performance, closer to 8%. In my opinion, the 9900k is very overpriced.

 

As for motherboard quality, if you are spending over $300 on the cpu, you should spend at least $100 on the motherboard.  There are 4 top tier motherboard manufacturers: Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, and Asrock. Features and layout of the boards will vary only slightly. Shop for the features you want and eliminate the unnecessary ones. The greatest differences will be in VRM configuration and VRM cooling; more of both is usually better.

 

The other thing to consider is how much RAM you need. At a bare minimum, I recommend 8GB for new builds with 16GB being preferred if the individual has the budget. Some software programs like a whole lot of RAM in which case you might want to get 32GB but that costs A LOT of money. Make sure that the programs you use will utilize that much ram before purchasing.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($538.90 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($71.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cougar - MX340 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1004.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-25 01:39 EST-0500

[zoni]

6 hours ago, JammyCreedog said:

The Intel Core i9 9900k is the fastest consumer level cpu out right now.  That title does come at a high cost tho, spending 40% more than the 8700 will not get you 40% better performance, closer to 8%. In my opinion, the 9900k is very overpriced.

 

As for motherboard quality, if you are spending over $300 on the cpu, you should spend at least $100 on the motherboard.  There are 4 top tier motherboard manufacturers: Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, and Asrock. Features and layout of the boards will vary only slightly. Shop for the features you want and eliminate the unnecessary ones. The greatest differences will be in VRM configuration and VRM cooling; more of both is usually better.

 

The other thing to consider is how much RAM you need. At a bare minimum, I recommend 8GB for new builds with 16GB being preferred if the individual has the budget. Some software programs like a whole lot of RAM in which case you might want to get 32GB but that costs A LOT of money. Make sure that the programs you use will utilize that much ram before purchasing.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($538.90 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($71.00 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cougar - MX340 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1004.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-25 01:39 EST-0500

I really cant thank you enough for all your help. From researching on some other CAD forums I think its wise to go with with something closer to your first suggestion: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$259.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$128.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$254.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$52.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card	$169.89 @ OutletPC
Case	Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case	$39.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$42.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1057.73
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$1007.73
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-25 07:59 EST-0500

 

 

Because its more balanced which I think is something important and will reduce parts outweighing other parts and causing bottlenecking (Am I right)?

 

Also I heard that having no graphics card and rely only on integrated graphics is not ideal when working with high end design software like 3Ds Max. Also I can utilise real time rendering.

 

Lastly do you think I should buy some extra thermal paste or does the CPU come with some, or is the fan already mounted? Im not too sure.

 

Thank you again and I hope you have a Merry Christmas!

[JammyCreedog]

Merry Christmas to you as well. The stock heatsink has thermal paste pre-applied but a 1oz tube costs like 3 bucks or so just in case you mess up the mounting pressure or something. That ryzen 7 2700 build is very balanced, weighted slightly toward workstation use. Its not going to be a max gaming fps monster because of that gtx 1050ti but it will do for occasional recreation during downtime. Glad I could help you.

[zoni]

Yh its fine I will 99% of the time be doing modelling work so hopefully this build will be good enough and be able to withstand computationally heavy renders.

 

You have really helped me in this process and hopefully I can help you out too one day in the future before good Karma comes your way - if you believe in that