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The freezer method!

This laptop that my friend uses for his laser cutter has a very peculiar perk. If it's off and you try to turn it on at room temperature, it will not work. Keyboard lights up, screen backlight turns on, but no post. However, slap that bad boy in the freezer for a couple minutes and it works fine. It never thermal shutdowns, but will not start unless it's chilled.

 

Anyone ever have a device like this?

 

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Sounds like some of the connections in it are broken and freezing it somehow connects them until it warms up and they expand, or I could be completely wrong xD

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6 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

Sounds like some of the connections in it are broken and freezing it somehow connects them until it warms up and they expand, or I could be completely wrong xD

One would think, but it doesn't stop working when warm or hot

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Bad HDD. This is a method used to help in data recovery. I've done it myself. I didn't get every single scrap of data (the drive finally just died) but I got almost all of it. So without more info, that would be my guess.

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2 minutes ago, TempestCatto said:

Bad HDD. This is a method used to help in data recovery. I've done it myself. I didn't get every single scrap of data (the drive finally just died) but I got almost all of it. So without more info, that would be my guess.

What's bizarre is that it has been this way for years, working seemingly fine. It would be nice to slap an SSD in there though, but I would have thought the BIOS would load up should the hard drive fail to read

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Years??

Maybe it's time to get a new laptop...ever consider that possibility?

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

Years??

Maybe it's time to get a new laptop...ever consider that possibility?

Oh yes this laptop has been replaced. He uses an Acer aspire as a daily driver at home and an XPS at work. The laser cutter gets to use the crap leftover PC.

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Well if the HDD is failing, and its the primary header thats gone bad, then after intial start up under cold conditions, it would indeed run fine ..untill u turn it off again and try to start up again.

 

Though the lack of post, kinda gives me pause.  Even wihtout a HDD you should atleast be able to post and get into the bios. Unless the HDD being present but failty is stoping this.

 

perhaps he should try disconecting the hDD and starting up the Laptop, see if it can get into the bios at normal room temp without the HDD present.

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38 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

One would think, but it doesn't stop working when warm or hot

does the power button work at room temperature? 

 

also look out with the battery, battery's don't like temperature changes... 

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Like others have said, it could be the hard drive. take out the drive then try to boot at room temp to test. Also Is the battery in the laptop when its put in the freezer? have you tried booting without the battery?

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14 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

also look out with the battery, battery's don't like temperature changes...

The battery was replaced at one point, the original suspect.

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9 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The battery was replaced at one point, the original suspect.

no but i mean don't put the battery in the freezer. that's a bad idea... 

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Just now, firelighter487 said:

no but i mean don't put the battery in the freezer. that's a bad idea... 

There are many reasons not to put this laptop into the freezer, so while I do recognize it's not great, we kinda have to

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Just now, fasauceome said:

There are many reasons not to put this laptop into the freezer, so while I do recognize it's not great, we kinda have to

just watch out.. 

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1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

just watch out.. 

I believe there is another laptop lined up to replace this one so since it's so old I don't mind having to chill it every month or so.

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Lithium batteries pretty much just die in the super cold. As others have said, pull the battery before you bung it in the freezer. I don't honestly think it will explode or do anything. It will just prevent it from holding much of a charge.

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Just now, TempestCatto said:

Lithium batteries pretty much just die in the super cold. As others have said, pull the battery before you bung it in the freezer. I don't honestly think it will explode or do anything. It will just prevent it from holding much of a charge.

It's a stationary laptop, doesn't go anyplace without the charger. It sits in the basement.

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Just now, TempestCatto said:

I don't honestly think it will explode or do anything.

with battery's it's best not to take risks though... 

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1 minute ago, TempestCatto said:

You're not getting it. Even though we don't think it will blow up, it's still considered dangerous to do leave it in.

it's less trouble to chuck the laptop and get a replacement so I'll probably have that done

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1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

it's less trouble to chuck the laptop and get a replacement so I'll probably have that done

the problem is not a dead battery. if the battery blows up it could burn your house down. just don't take the risk! either don't use that laptop anymore or take the battery out if you put it in the freezer/take the battery out and run it without the battery if possible. 

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12 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

the problem is not a dead battery. if the battery blows up it could burn your house down. just don't take the risk! either don't use that laptop anymore or take the battery out if you put it in the freezer/take the battery out and run it without the battery if possible. 

I won't be leaving it in the kitchen trash, I'll probably take the battery to electronics recycling and sell the laptop on eBay

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Just now, fasauceome said:

I won't be leaving it in the kitchen trash, I'll probably take the battery to electronics recycling and sell the laptop on eBay

good. 

 

i was just trying to warn you... 

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