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RUMOUR: nVidia about to launch GTX 11xx series

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

Did I just have an aneurysm? 11 series and 20 series instead of just using GTX vs RTX. Who the fuck though this was smart? I swear to god I want to just permanently boycott Nvidia sometimes

Nvidia: capital letter f this we're resetting our naming stack again.

AMD: WHEEEEHEHEHEE FREE NAMING CONVENTION!

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14 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

I'm much more supportive of AMD as a company, but even I've got to say the amount of hate thrown at nvidia for just the possibility of this rumor, where the product line segregation actually makes sense given the addition of several features on the current line over last gen, is absolutely dumbfounding and hilarious. Do better, people.

I kind of disagree, it's not about AMD or Nvidia really. It's about the fact that at least over 90% of people won't know the differences between those different GPU lines and there will definitely be some bad purchases made because of the naming scheme alone...

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2 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I kind of disagree, it's not about AMD or Nvidia really. It's about the fact that at least over 90% of people won't know the differences between those different GPU lines and there will definitely be some bad purchases made because of the naming scheme alone...

Guys in the tech space are always going to be sensitive to issues that you know are going to produce years of questions from people you know trying to explain the questionable decisions of a company.

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This sounds like that Intel did the other year, somewhat confusing naming of their product lines. I hope this isn't true...


 

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3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

I kind of disagree, it's not about AMD or Nvidia really. It's about the fact that at least over 90% of people won't know the differences between those different GPU lines and there will definitely be some bad purchases made because of the naming scheme alone...

How so?  GTX 11XX parts should both be cheaper and yield less performance than the more expensive RTX 20XX parts, and omit the ray tracing and Tensor core features.  Unless they significantly butcher their prices.  Your stance only makes sense to me if they were to release any GTX 11XX series card that outperforms even the lowest RTX card, did I miss mention of such?

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Honestly i am unsure if i like the idea of a GTX Branch.

Yes, it will most likely offer better shading performance and be cheaper, ... but it would therefore slow down RT adoption. 

 

To be quite honest here: I still did not get my 2080 ti strix, so if they offer a GTX Variant by January, i may just as well cancel the preorder and go for the GTX thing.

Even tho i really want RT to succeed, but i don't feel like spending my money to make stuff happen. That is not my business, it should be NVidia / Intel / AMD business. 

 

So, i really hope they don't do that. Even tho it would be better short term.

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12 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

How so?  GTX 11XX parts should both be cheaper and yield less performance than the more expensive RTX 20XX parts, and omit the ray tracing and Tensor core features.  Unless they significantly butcher their prices.  Your stance only makes sense to me if they were to release any GTX 11XX series card that outperforms even the lowest RTX card, did I miss mention of such?

You misunderstand. I'm not talking about releasing lower-tier cards without RT and Tensor cores because this obviously makes sense as even the 2070 is incapable of decently using DXR settings in BF5, let alone the soon-to-be 2060. I'm talking about the naming scheme which is dumb as hell, why not call it a GTX 2000 series? Like a GTX 2050, GTX 2050 Ti, RTX 2060, RTX 2070 and so on? It clearly indicates that this is the same series, just without RTX features. Releasing a lineup looking like this: GTX 1150, GTX 1150Ti, RTX 2060, RTX 2070 will only confuse potential buyers of which well over 90% doesn't know almost anything specific about the lineups.

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rtx is a complete failure as it is, i would much prefer to buy a gtx 1180ti for much less money and no RTX. 

Most think the same, 1080ti's just flew of the shelfs lately even at inflated prices.

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3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Releasing a lineup looking like this: GTX 1150, GTX 1150Ti, RTX 2060, RTX 2070 will only confuse potential buyers of which well over 90% doesn't know almost anything specific about the lineups.

The same buyers who'll see AMD's 30x0, get confused, and buy that instead?

 

I had non-tech friends ask about getting a gaming laptop. They linked me a model with a 950M in it. I found them a 1050 for the same price. GTX, RTX, RX, it means nothing to them. If people don't do their own research any of these are just random letters and numbers. Going 11xx or 20xx will make little or no difference.

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1 minute ago, porina said:

The same buyers who'll see AMD's 30x0, get confused, and buy that instead?

 

Yeah, potentially. Although I have no knowledge of the speculated AMD 30x0 series that you mentioned.

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I fucking called this back when the rumour mill was in full flow and every day a different news outlet had info on the 1100 series or the 2000 series and everyone said I was wrong...

 

I hate to say it (actually I don't and anybody who does is lying) but I told y'all so.

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Will there be a new GTX TITAN 11 series? /s

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22 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

You misunderstand. I'm not talking about releasing lower-tier cards without RT and Tensor cores because this obviously makes sense as even the 2070 is incapable of decently using DXR settings in BF5, let alone the soon-to-be 2060. I'm talking about the naming scheme which is dumb as hell, why not call it a GTX 2000 series? Like a GTX 2050, GTX 2050 Ti, RTX 2060, RTX 2070 and so on? It clearly indicates that this is the same series, just without RTX features. Releasing a lineup looking like this: GTX 1150, GTX 1150Ti, RTX 2060, RTX 2070 will only confuse potential buyers of which well over 90% doesn't know almost anything specific about the lineups.

I just don't see it that way.  I see enough difference between not just performance but feature set and the variance in architecture with Tensor cores to understand not wanting it represented by just one letter change and an increment of 10.  I don't particularly like it, but I understand it enough to not think it warrants a pitchfork mob and barrage of insults, as imo the difference being highlighted more (as rumored) will only spark curiosity in potential customers to ask themselves what the difference really is and at least consider/learn about ray tracing and other features, and whether or not they actually want that, if it makes a change at all.  Different to just 'higher price = more better fps'.  I will say I think releasing a RTX 2060 is dumb especially if also releasing a GTX 1160. 

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7 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

I just don't see it that way.  I see enough difference between not just performance but feature set and the variance in architecture with Tensor cores to understand not wanting it represented by just one letter change and an increment of 10.

 

You see, the problem with what you're saying is that yeah, YOU do see enough difference but regular people won't. I've worked in IT long-enough to know that non-tech savvy people have completely no idea about stuff like that, and they actually don't want to know. So the simpler the naming scheme - the better towards customers it is.

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15 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Yeah, potentially. Although I have no knowledge of the speculated AMD 30x0 series that you mentioned.

I've not followed the rumours closely, but part of it is that the next gen AMD GPUs may mimic and leapfrog nvidia's numbering scheme, in a similar way they did with Intel chipsets already.

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just for the sake of how out of tune the "gtx 1660ti" sounds , i'll pass it as a fake.

Details separate people.

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15 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

You see, the problem with what you're saying is that yeah, YOU do see enough difference but regular people won't. I've worked in IT long-enough to know that non-tech savvy people have completely no idea about stuff like that, and they actually don't want to know. So the simpler the naming scheme - the better towards customers it is.

I've worked in consumer electronics retail and completely agree that for most cases, simpler = better. I still don't see much harm in this as any potential lack of interest by the customers' part that defaults to pricing > learning naming scheme still doesn't seem to do much harm as there is no mention of a product such as a GTX 1180Ti. This product stack, as much as I don't particularly like it's lack of neatness, still seems to point to that the more you spend, the better the performance and/or the more features. Until a product is released that makes that no longer true, bagging on the company for this is utterly pointless and stupid.

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11 minutes ago, porina said:

I've not followed the rumours closely, but part of it is that the next gen AMD GPUs may mimic and leapfrog nvidia's numbering scheme, in a similar way they did with Intel chipsets already.

That'd be dumb as hell too, I need to read into it. What is happening to this world... ?

2 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

This product stack, as much as I don't particularly like it's lack of neatness, still seems to point to that the more you spend, the better the performance and/or the more features.

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Sorry, I couldn't resist it ?

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1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

That'd be dumb as hell too, I need to read into it. What is happening to this world... ?

Sorry, I couldn't resist it ?

This post checks out, guys.

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Dear AMD,

 

Yo quiero RX 3080 por favor.

 

Gracias,

aisle numero nueve

Sincerely,

 

me

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