New Ryzen build... Too many choices,please help :)

[Nikolacar4]

Hello,im looking to build a new pc,primarily for gaming,but also a bit of video editing.... And i have got a few options avaliable,and i dont know what to choose... I have already bought a 1070 gaming x from msi.

Other parts:

Case:Lc-power 988b red typhoon

PSU: Evga b3 750w

SSD:250gb or 500gb samsung m.2

Hdd:1tb WD

Cooling: Preferably stock

 

I will now list a few options,that i gathered:

1. Ryzen 5 2600+b450-f+nzxt kraken x72

2 .Ryzen 5 2600+x470-f+Aftermarker Cooler

3. Ryzen 5 2600 x +Crosshair VII Hero (with stock cooler).

4. Ryzen 5 2600+Crosshair VII Hero (with stock cooler).

5. Ryzen 7 2700+b450-f

6. Ryzen 7 2700x+b450-f

7. Ryzen 7 2700 or 2700x with a used Crosshair VI Hero for 160E.

 

If you have other recommendations,please lay them out :).

Thanks

[Krosis]

I would say, go for 3 or 4. The B450-F is a garbage motherboard. Any reason you are going for Asus exclusively?

[Nikolacar4]

Why is the b450-f a garbage motherboard? I think asus makes very good,quality motherboards :),and red fits my scheme.

[Nikolacar4]

@Krosis Forgot to tag you... sorry

[Krosis]

 

22 hours ago, Nikolacar4 said:

Why is the b450-f a garbage motherboard? I think asus makes very good,quality motherboards :),and red fits my scheme.

Asus makes aesthetically pleasing motherboards that are sometimes good. Looking at low to mid range B450 motherboards, I would definitely recommend going with MSI or AsRock. Almost everyone on here recommends MSI for B450.

 

Here you go:

 

[Nikolacar4]

@Krosis What about r7 1700 and vi hero?

[Krosis]

Just now, Nikolacar4 said:

@Krosis What about r7 1700 and vi hero?

I would recommend the 2600 or 2600X instead of the 1700. There is no reason to buy the 1700 when you get the same performance in a more recent CPU. I still don't know why you are going only for Asus?

[Krosis]

Get any motherboard from this list, there all decent (yes, including the Asus ones):

 

Note that they have Asus B450-I (not F) to add mATX motherboards.

[aezakmi]

I'd go for the 2600 and an X470 with stock cooler

[nick name]

I would suggest a 2600X with a ROG Strix X470 and a Fractal Design Celsius S36.  The ROG X470 (Strix and Crosshair VII) boards have Performance Enhancers Levels 3 and 4 and that essentially overclocks PBO.  In my opinion -- it's the best way to get the most performance out of Ryzen.  

[Nikolacar4]

@Krosis @aezakmi @nick name  

I really want to get an asus board,that is very high quality.. I have had 3 motherboards die on me,and not any other component... So i want to get a really good motherboard,and be done with it... I know that the 2600 (x) perform similary to the 1700,but the 1700 has 2 extra cores,what about that ?

[Nikolacar4]

Also what is the reason that the b450-f is a bad motherboard?

[aezakmi]

10 minutes ago, Nikolacar4 said:

Also what is the reason that the b450-f is a bad motherboard?

450 boards aren't really made for R7 chips, they're just compatible with them because of the socket

 

The 450F in particular just looks good but it isn't, not all boards from ASUS are good, it's like saying ALL power supplies from Seasonic are good while that's not true *cough* S12 II *cough*.

VRMs on that board tend to overheat and make the CPU throttle down to compensate until they cool down, this doesn't occurs when R3 and low end R5 chips that are 65W or less are used.

About ASUS boards, I have the X470-PRO and the VRM temp never goes over 64C while gaming.

 

The 1700 has two extra cores those cores are slightly slower than the ones in the 2600, it also runs hotter, unless the 1700 is cheaper get the 2600 if you're just going to game with it, the 2600 and 2600X are the same CPU the only difference is that the X is clocked higher (you can overclock the regular 2600 to have the same performance)

[Nikolacar4]

@aezakmi The price difference between 1700 and 2600 are 10$ on the 1700's side

[Krosis]

7 hours ago, Nikolacar4 said:

@aezakmi The price difference between 1700 and 2600 are 10$ on the 1700's side

I would recommend going for the 2600. Your primary use is gaming, for which, the two extra cores are not going to make a difference. Also, the 1700 cores are Zen cores, while 2600 cores are Zen+ cores.

 

Here's a comparison between the two: (source: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3758281/ryzen-1700-ryzen-2600.html)

 

https://ibb.co/i5ACTz

 

https://ibb.co/dt8Sve

 

At the end of it, it's entirely your choice.

 

[xg32]

On 12/17/2018 at 1:02 PM, Nikolacar4 said:

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gonna recommend 3 or 4 for 2 reasons, i like only the hero and the taichi for ryzen builds, and 2600 being cheaper for the upgrade to zen 2 later, any cpu bought atm would just get blown out of the water in 5 months.

[ch3w2oy]

20 hours ago, nick name said:

I would suggest a 2600X with a ROG Strix X470 and a Fractal Design Celsius S36.  The ROG X470 (Strix and Crosshair VII) boards have Performance Enhancers Levels 3 and 4 and that essentially overclocks PBO.  In my opinion -- it's the best way to get the most performance out of Ryzen.  

If you want Asus I also recommend the Strix. I used it before I got the Crosshair and honestly you won't really miss much unless you're an extreme overclocker. Get the Strix or Taichi as they're similar in terms of pricing. I don't really recommend spending 280 on the Crosshair unless you plan to get a better processor next year when AMD releases its new lineup. 

[Nikolacar4]

@Krosis @xg32 @tomswife Thank you all for answering,most people were voting for 2600 (x) and vii hero... I will have to take everything into consideration,thank you all.

[ch3w2oy]

1 hour ago, Nikolacar4 said:

@Krosis @xg32 @tomswife Thank you all for answering,most people were voting for 2600 (x) and vii hero... I will have to take everything into consideration,thank you all.

That's what I'm rocking, and it's a badass setup, you will definitely maximize performance with this combination. The CH7 will definitely allow higher overclocks on pretty much everything, trust me.