low GPU usage Low CPU usage low fps on high end pc please help

[Slow1122]

hi im having a problem thats making my GPU and CPU be at a  lower usage then they need to be causing low fps problems i have a RTX 2080, i7-8700 (non-k) 16gb ddr4 2666 ram, 500w psu. on farcry 5 i get like 70-40 fps on ultra 1080p with 40-60 gpu usage and 50-70 cpu usage, this is the same with overwatch, bo4, subnautica and a number of other games, ive tried clean installing my nvidia drivers, ive taken my case off so it cools better and the card stayed around 77c when i did that and i was still having the low gpu usage. im lost at what could be the problem and are very in need of an solution 

[oldusername1223]

which psu do you have? is it high quality enough? Can be a psu problem

[Slow1122]

7 minutes ago, airspir said:

which psu do you have? is it high quality enough? Can be a psu problem

im not sure its a pre-built from hp its the omen obelisk, only reason i bought it was a black friday sale 500$ off

 

[mxk]

did you use DDU for the drivers?

[oldusername1223]

Prebuilts generally don't come with high quality psu's. Also that 500w is way too low for 8700 and a 2080. Since you didn't provide many details, can't tell

[fabafaba]

8 minutes ago, airspir said:

Prebuilts generally don't come with high quality psu's. Also that 500w is way too low for 8700 and a 2080. Since you didn't provide many details, can't tell

Way too low for that hardware? An OCed 2080 draws like 270W and the 8700 will stay well below its 65W TDP since it can't be overclocked. Together with HDDs and SSDs, RAM and the mobo itself we're looking at what? 400W max?

30 minutes ago, Slow1122 said:

hi im having a problem thats making my GPU and CPU be at a  lower usage then they need to be causing low fps problems i have a RTX 2080, i7-8700 (non-k) 16gb ddr4 2666 ram, 500w psu. on farcry 5 i get like 70-40 fps on ultra 1080p with 40-60 gpu usage and 50-70 cpu usage, this is the same with overwatch, bo4, subnautica and a number of other games, ive tried clean installing my nvidia drivers, ive taken my case off so it cools better and the card stayed around 77c when i did that and i was still having the low gpu usage. im lost at what could be the problem and are very in need of an solution 

The CPU usage looks normal, I don't think that's the problem. The GPU seems to be the problem, 77°C is right at the cards temperature limit where it starts to clock itself down, taht would explain the low usage. Do you have the card overclocked in Afterburner?

[Guest]

250 for the gpu and maybe atleast 200 or more for the motherboard .. if its anything decent you won't have a lot of room then, it could be trottling by itsself to ensure having enough energy to maintain 100% system cohesion

[Emanbaird]

15 minutes ago, fabafaba said:

Way too low for that hardware? An OCed 2080 draws like 270W and the 8700 will stay well below its 65W TDP since it can't be overclocked. Together with HDDs and SSDs, RAM and the mobo itself we're looking at what? 400W max?

The CPU usage looks normal, I don't think that's the problem. The GPU seems to be the problem, 77°C is right at the cards temperature limit where it starts to clock itself down, taht would explain the low usage. Do you have the card overclocked in Afterburner?

I would agree, if it is running at 77°C that's pretty warm and it may begin to throttle, i would suggest seeing if you can ramp up the fans.
Also, what kind of case is it?

[fabafaba]

13 minutes ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

250 for the gpu and maybe atleast 200 or more for the motherboard .. if its anything decent you won't have a lot of room then, it could be trottling by itsself to ensure having enough energy to maintain 100% system cohesion

Was that in response to my post?

6 minutes ago, Emanbaird said:

I would agree, if it is running at 77°C that's pretty warm and it may begin to throttle, i would suggest seeing if you can ramp up the fans.
Also, what kind of case is it?

Yup, I just checked the stock temp limit for the 2080 and it's at 75°C. That really sounds like thermal throtteling.

[Emanbaird]

Also the 65W TDP is a thermal rating, not an actual power draw, a 500w PSU is probably fine especially since he won't be doing any overclocking 

[fabafaba]

1 minute ago, Emanbaird said:

Also the 65W TDP is a thermal rating, not an actual power draw, a 500w PSU is probably fine especially since he won't be doing any overclocking 

The actual max power consumption is still pretty close to the TDP. You can't dissipate more energy in heat than you take in in electrical energy.

[Emanbaird]

3 minutes ago, fabafaba said:

The actual max power consumption is still pretty close to the TDP. You can't dissipate more energy in heat than you take in in electrical energy.

True, it's close but I've seen around 49W power draw, i'm sure the big boi here is the 2080 though, i have no idea what that thing will draw 

 

[fabafaba]

14 minutes ago, Emanbaird said:

True, it's close but I've seen around 49W power draw, i'm sure the big boi here is the 2080 though, i have no idea what that thing will draw 

 

Around 270, spiking to 300W at maximum. My 1080TI has a 250W TDP and Afterburner set to 120% power, so it should be 300W. When I checked with a currentclamp, I measured 25A-28A or 300W-340W, so I suspect the 2080 to do 30W-50W less when overclocked.

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, fabafaba said:

Was that in response to my post?

Ah yes it was actually…. High end hardware … atleast 200w for cpu motherboard and gpu and pref even 300W  .. 500w just won't cut it

[fabafaba]

1 minute ago, Christiaan21-03 said:

Ah yes it was actually…. High end hardware … atleast 200w for cpu motherboard and gpu and pref even 300W  .. 500w just won't cut it

Have you ever hooked up a computer to a powermeter or used a currentclamp on the wires? A somewhat recent motherboard all by itself will draw about 40-50W. And good luck getting a non-k CPU to draw over 150W, even with the losses in the VRMs. 

[Emanbaird]

3 minutes ago, fabafaba said:

Have you ever hooked up a computer to a powermeter or used a currentclamp on the wires? A somewhat recent motherboard all by itself will draw about 40-50W. And good luck getting a non-k CPU to draw over 150W, even with the losses in the VRMs. 

My 3960x used to get to 1.45V 5Ghz, even though i blew through it in 2 months it only drew 122W, so for an 8700 to draw anything close to 200 would be crazy 

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, fabafaba said:

Have you ever hooked up a computer to a powermeter or used a currentclamp on the wires? A somewhat recent motherboard all by itself will draw about 40-50W. And good luck getting a non-k CPU to draw over 150W, even with the losses in the VRMs. 

I'm not even talking about the cpu here... The power usage benches that are available online all indicate atleast 200W usage for the latest high end motherboards… If i saw this correct this has been for many years. More functionality and stability with higher more stable dataloads cost more energy... and you yourself stated about the usage of the gpu so? I'm not even sure why someone would want to couple 500W with a rtx 2080 unless there is absolutely no knowlegde about the product... I had it when buying my gtx770 … The shopowner even called me up late at night to ask if it was any problem if he would provide a more expensive gpu, as he forgot to mention that fact when i bought the gpu.. apperently he had a lot of trouble with getting the system to run properly.. the 650W psu changed a lot.. not everything but it was good enough in the end... ofcourse this was 2012 2013 we are speaking off but if i remember this correct the 770 had the same power usage or almost as the 2080 

[Slow1122]

2 hours ago, mxk. said:

did you use DDU for the drivers?

yes

[Slow1122]

4 hours ago, Emanbaird said:

I would agree, if it is running at 77°C that's pretty warm and it may begin to throttle, i would suggest seeing if you can ramp up the fans.
Also, what kind of case is it?

this is a screen shot of subnautica when the side panel is off and a fan is blowing air at the gpu and the usages are still low and im not sure what case it is its a prebuilt hp omen obelisk

 

[Emanbaird]

14 hours ago, Slow1122 said:

this is a screen shot of subnautica when the side panel is off and a fan is blowing air at the gpu and the usages are still low and im not sure what case it is its a prebuilt hp omen obelisk

 

Honestly at this point you may be better off trying to call HP, 75C is really hot with everything at 100% and subnautica isn't super stressful

[_Hustler_One_]

Or is it a simply because of the case which can't feed the interior with enough cool air so the GPU throttled?