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7 hours ago, cs117x said:

should I completely not use AIOs then even if I'm willing to spend the extra money on a more expensive one?

 

Nothing wrong with using an aio, especially if one wants to show off the motherboard. Rather than the two additional fans, why not get a 2x140mm aio. It will provide much better cooling and mounted in the font will improve airflow.

 

CPU coolers come with either a pre-applied pad or tube of thermal compound. There is generally little need for additional or different compound.

 

I would use a 2x16GB memory kit. This would leave two slots free for upgrading should that ever be necessary.

 

Consider simplifying storage by going with a single ssd.

 

I'd suggest a slightly higher capacity psu.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£294.40 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£134.66 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£190.40 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£229.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£154.97 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (£439.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£71.66 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£428.99 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £2032.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 18:14 GMT+0000

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Is this the best performance I can get for gaming at this price? Would prefer to keep the monitor the same and prefer liquid cooling

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £294.40 @ Alza
CPU Cooler Corsair - H60 54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £60.46 @ Scan.co.uk
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste £6.17 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard £190.40 @ Alza
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £122.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £122.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £70.79 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £38.22 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card £359.98 @ Ebuyer
Case NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case £71.66 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply Corsair - RMx 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £85.00 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Monitor Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £340.00 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1772.02
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 09:14 GMT+0000  

 

 

 

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For gaming 16GB memory is more than sufficient already

 

cheap AIO are a waste of money

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

For gaming 16GB memory is more than sufficient already

 

cheap AIO are a waste of money

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £294.40 @ Alza
CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £136.49 @ Scan.co.uk
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste £6.17 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard £190.40 @ Alza
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £122.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £70.79 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £38.22 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card £359.98 @ Ebuyer
Case NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case £71.66 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply Corsair - RMx 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £85.00 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Monitor Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £340.00 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1725.07
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 09:27 GMT+0000  

 

how's this?

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35 minutes ago, cs117x said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £294.40 @ Alza
CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £136.49 @ Scan.co.uk
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste £6.17 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard £190.40 @ Alza
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £122.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £70.79 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £38.22 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card £359.98 @ Ebuyer
Case NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case £71.66 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply Corsair - RMx 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £85.00 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Monitor Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £340.00 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1725.07
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 09:27 GMT+0000  

 

how's this?

so now I actually checked prices

 

1. the Asrock X370 Taichi is a much better board except for the brand and maybe colour scheme for less money. BIOS update is a tiny problem since most boards (even X370 ones) should have newer BIOSes that support 2nd gen Ryzen at this point, and even if it doesnt there's AMD's bootkit program.

 

If colour scheme is a problem, then the Asus Crosshair VI Hero is a better board for the same price (stronger VRMs, more functions in the BIOS). No BIOS compatibility problem here, as this board lets you flash its BIOS without a compatible CPU.

 

2. Prefer RM650X (2018) instead, a tiny price bump for more wattage (will come useful if you do power mods or upgrade to even more power hungry parts)

 

3. Change the AIO to a 280mm one for better cooling, say the H115i or H110i (most notable difference are the fans, H110i shouts while H115i doesnt, but H110i cools better thanks to the fans)

 

4. I think 140mm fans as intakes are better than 120mm when you case can hold them. For the best performance, my recommendation will be the Phanteks - PH-F140MP_BBK_PWM, while the ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM is a cheaper fan for less performance (especially on static pressure, something you'd want when the H500's intake holes are on the side). Put the stock fans on the back of the radiator and extra intake fans between the radiator and the case's frame

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

so now I actually checked prices

 

1. the Asrock X370 Taichi is a much better board except for the brand and maybe colour scheme for less money. BIOS update is a tiny problem since most boards (even X370 ones) should have newer BIOSes that support 2nd gen Ryzen at this point, and even if it doesnt there's AMD's bootkit program.

 

If colour scheme is a problem, then the Asus Crosshair VI Hero is a better board for the same price (stronger VRMs, more functions in the BIOS). No BIOS compatibility problem here, as this board lets you flash its BIOS without a compatible CPU.

 

2. Prefer RM650X (2018) instead, a tiny price bump for more wattage (will come useful if you do power mods or upgrade to even more power hungry parts)

 

3. I think 140mm fans as intakes are better than 120mm when you case can hold them. For the best performance, my recommendation will be the Phanteks - PH-F140MP_BBK_PWM, while the ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM is a cheaper fan for less performance (especially on static pressure, something you'd want when the H500's intake holes are on the side)

should I completely not use AIOs then even if I'm willing to spend the extra money on a more expensive one?

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Just now, cs117x said:

should I completely not use AIOs then even if I'm willing to spend the extra money on a more expensive one?

btw I edited the old reply, refresh the page to see it

 

If you're willing to change the case then air cooler is better. The H500 can't hold those tall heatsinks.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

btw I edited the old reply, refresh the page to see it

 

If you're willing to change the case then air cooler is better. The H500 can't hold those tall heatsinks.

yeah I'm not massively bothered about the case I'd just prefer a tempered class window and some style

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28 minutes ago, cs117x said:

yeah I'm not massively bothered about the case I'd just prefer a tempered class window and some style

Not exactly a fan of tempered glass, I've heard of too many accidents because of it. A slight bump caused the entire thing to shatter for example. I myself would rather have acrylic sides.

 

anyway

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £294.40 @ Alza
CPU Cooler Scythe - Ninja 5 43.03 CFM CPU Cooler £70.40 @ Alza
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste £6.17 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard £170.39 @ Amazon UK
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £122.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £69.53 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £38.22 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card £359.98 @ Ebuyer
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case £81.66 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £87.98 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan £4.49 @ AWD-IT
Case Fan Fractal Design - HF12-BK 83.4 CFM 120mm Fan £19.45 @ Box Limited
Monitor Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £340.00 @ Amazon UK
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1674.63
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 10:52 GMT+0000  

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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yeah I might opt for acrylic also just for a bit of extra precaution, I'm also wondering like how well these spec's will actually perform? Is there a place I can check that?

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You should avoid the Asus Vega gpu's as the cooler is not very good. 

 

 

I would do something like this. You can always add extra fans later if needed. The R5 2600 is still good if you are just gaming, and the Gigabyte Gaming 7 should be fine for the upcoming Ryzen 3xxx when released next year. 

 

The stock cooler would also be fine for the short term. If you go with something like the H7 below then make sure to buy an AM4 bracket as well. You don't really need any extra thermal paste.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£149.99 @ CCL Computers) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£224.86 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£113.76 @ Box Limited) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£69.53 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£36.73 @ PC World Business) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (£439.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£428.99 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £1670.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 14:58 GMT+0000

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7 hours ago, cs117x said:

should I completely not use AIOs then even if I'm willing to spend the extra money on a more expensive one?

 

Nothing wrong with using an aio, especially if one wants to show off the motherboard. Rather than the two additional fans, why not get a 2x140mm aio. It will provide much better cooling and mounted in the font will improve airflow.

 

CPU coolers come with either a pre-applied pad or tube of thermal compound. There is generally little need for additional or different compound.

 

I would use a 2x16GB memory kit. This would leave two slots free for upgrading should that ever be necessary.

 

Consider simplifying storage by going with a single ssd.

 

I'd suggest a slightly higher capacity psu.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£294.40 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£134.66 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£190.40 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£229.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£154.97 @ Ebuyer) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (£439.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£71.66 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£428.99 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £2032.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-15 18:14 GMT+0000

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