Upgrading GTX 750 on a Budget

[Sumbatrex]

I'm looking to upgrade my pc which currently has a GTX 750 on a budget of about $150 (for the graphics card).  I have seen a few options on ebay that look good but I am having a hard time making a choice.  I am currently leaning towards getting an r9 fury 4GB for $100, but other options include RX 580 or GTX 1060.  If I go with the fury, I have to buy a new 750w power supply as well for $80.  I currently have a 400w power supply, so if I could spend less on the new power supply I could spend more on the graphics card as well.  I only want to game at 1080p (I don't have a 4K monitor).  I am also planning on upgrading my ram, and buying a second 8GB stick for $40-60, so if I did not need to do that then I could add that money to the graphics card budget.  I am mostly doing this upgrade for fun because it is my first foray into messing with computer components.  I would really appreciate some advice from people who know way more about this stuff than I do (I just got into pc components and building two or three months ago).  Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

 

P.S. I heard some things about AMD cards having compatibility issues with older games, and I enjoy playing those from time to time.  Is this anything to worry about?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

I could spend less on the new power supply

not a good idea. (i have had a 650w PSU catch fire, for going cheap)

[Sumbatrex]

2 minutes ago, Nolanrulesroblox said:

not a good idea. (i have had a 650w PSU catch fire, for going cheap)

I meant going for a lower wattage not cheaper build quality.  The one I am looking at now is 80+ Gold 750w Rosewill Photon Power Supply.  Going down to a 650w on the same brand and efficiency for $10 less shouldn't be bad, right?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

I meant going for a lower wattage not cheaper build quality.  The one I am looking at now is 80+ Gold 750w Rosewill Photon Power Supply.  Going down to a 650w on the same brand and efficiency for $10 less shouldn't be bad, right?

i retract my statement. your psu you are choosing is good

[vSaft_Hype]

Get the 1060

[Nicnac]

1050 ti. no need to upgrade psu and will probably best fit the rest of your rig performance-wise.

[Sumbatrex]

Is userbenchmark a bad source to compare cards then?  It makes it appear as though the r9 fury is the best performing card of all the options at this price point.  That is how I have been comparing cards.  

[JoostinOnline]

17 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

Is userbenchmark a bad source to compare cards then?  It makes it appear as though the r9 fury is the best performing card of all the options at this price point.  That is how I have been comparing cards.  

It's awful.

 

Look for a used 1050 or 1050 Ti.

[Sumbatrex]

6 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It's awful.

 

Look for a used 1050 or 1050 Ti.

This is what I mean though :

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-AMD-R9-Fury/3649vs3509

 

Is the information wrong or just really misleading then? I'm new to pc building, and its confusing me.

[Tristerin]

RX 570 4gb STRIX edition for $130 shipped today:

https://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16814126189?icid=WP_9999_12132018

[Tristerin]

31 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

Is userbenchmark a bad source to compare cards then?  It makes it appear as though the r9 fury is the best performing card of all the options at this price point.  That is how I have been comparing cards.  

Benchmarks are absolutely worth looking at.  Plus you can VR decently on an R9 FuryX so would assume the non X variant is a decent GPU.

[JoostinOnline]

13 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

This is what I mean though :

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-AMD-R9-Fury/3649vs3509

 

Is the information wrong or just really misleading then? I'm new to pc building, and its confusing me.

Don't use User Benchmark. Their benchmarks are very misleading. It's the same with other custom benchmark sites like GPUBoss.

 

The R9 Fury is about on par with a GTX 1060 6GB or GTX 980 (it varies from game to game), but it uses a lot more power. You haven't said what CPU you're using, but if the rest of your system is as old as a GTX 750 then you're just going to run into a bottleneck by getting anything that strong.

 

https://youtu.be/qePzD5gXYio

[Sumbatrex]

13 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Don't use User Benchmark. Their benchmarks are very misleading. It's the same with other custom benchmark sites like GPUBoss.

 

The R9 Fury is about on par with a GTX 1060 6GB or GTX 980 (it varies from game to game), but it uses a lot more power. You haven't said what CPU you're using, but if the rest of your system is as old as a GTX 750 then you're just going to run into a bottleneck by getting anything that strong.

 

https://youtu.be/qePzD5gXYio

This is very helpful, thank you!  Yeah the CPU is just as old as the graphics card.  It's an AMD FX-Series chip if that tells you anything (I'll have to check dxdiag later to be more accurate).  I don't know much about bottlenecks, but I figured that might be an issue.   

[Sumbatrex]

39 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

RX 570 4gb STRIX edition for $130 shipped today:

https://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16814126189?icid=WP_9999_12132018

This shows up as $250 for me.

[JoostinOnline]

12 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

This is very helpful, thank you!  Yeah the CPU is just as old as the graphics card.  It's an AMD FX-Series chip if that tells you anything (I'll have to check dxdiag later to be more accurate).  I don't know much about bottlenecks, but I figured that might be an issue.   

The specific model will be useful, but any FX series chip is going to be a bottleneck to a modern graphics card. I wouldn't recommend anything better than a GTX 1050 Ti or RX 570.

[Tristerin]

23 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

This shows up as $250 for me.

Promo code, read the page, Im about to buy one myself

[Sumbatrex]

10 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

The specific model will be useful, but any FX series chip is going to be a bottleneck to a modern graphics card. I wouldn't recommend anything better than a GTX 1050 Ti or RX 570.

Its an AMD FX-8320.  

[Sumbatrex]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Promo code, read the page, Im about to buy one myself

Wow I completely missed that somehow!  Thanks for sharing!

[JoostinOnline]

13 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

Its an AMD FX-8320.  

Then the two cards I recommended would be a good match. The on sale 570 is what I'd recommend if you're planning to buy new.

[Sumbatrex]

4 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Then the two cards I recommended would be a good match. The on sale 570 is what I'd recommend if you're planning to buy new.

Cool!  Do you think its worth it to buy a new power supply anyway?  My current power supply is a 400w Solytech SL-F400.  I understand 400w is enough, but this is the power supply that came with the pc pre-built, and its apparently not very good.  Is there a risk of damaging my pc if it dies, or is it safe to just run it until it dies and then replace it?  

[ThePD]

1 minute ago, Sumbatrex said:

Cool!  Do you think its worth it to buy a new power supply anyway?  My current power supply is a 400w Solytech SL-F400.  I understand 400w is enough, but this is the power supply that came with the pc pre-built, and its apparently not very good.  Is there a risk of damaging my pc if it dies, or is it safe to just run it until it dies and then replace it?  

Absolutely. Your PSU is the most critical part of your build. If that goes, your whole computer goes.

[JoostinOnline]

10 minutes ago, Sumbatrex said:

Cool!  Do you think its worth it to buy a new power supply anyway?  My current power supply is a 400w Solytech SL-F400.  I understand 400w is enough, but this is the power supply that came with the pc pre-built, and its apparently not very good.  Is there a risk of damaging my pc if it dies, or is it safe to just run it until it dies and then replace it?  

Honestly I think it's fine. It's not like this is a high end build. It's a budget one (which is totally fine), and you don't need to fanciest components. A power supply damaging other components is possible but very rare.

8 minutes ago, ThePD said:

Absolutely. Your PSU is the most critical part of your build. If that goes, your whole computer goes.

That doesn't mean you need to be paranoid. I do computer repairs for a living. In the past 5 years I've seen two power supplies fail. If you're buying a new power supply, I always recommend a good one. That being said, you don't need to replace every old one while it works.

[ThePD]

6 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

That doesn't mean you need to be paranoid. I do computer repairs for a living. In the past 5 years I've seen two power supplies fail. If you're buying a new power supply, I always recommend a good one. That being said, you don't need to replace every old one while it works.

I do as well. I have seen old prebuilt pc power supplies brick systems when they failed. You are correct you don't need to be paranoid. But if OP is planning to replace his PSU he may as well go to a quality PSU he can trust. Personally, I'd rather be paranoid and not lose a system then take a chance, but that is just my opinion.

[JoostinOnline]

38 minutes ago, ThePD said:

But if OP is planning to replace his PSU he may as well go to a quality PSU he can trust.

If you're buying, buy a good one. But if you are short on funds and you have something that works, then it's fine. Even a cheap PSU will usually last around 10 years.