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5 minutes ago, Cansadoyguay said:

My friend ages ago bought a 2500k when it was the don daddy of chips (and still is a bit) with a heck of bottleneck it can still scrape modern games if you throw a high end gpu in there: That was four cores. It is now clearly time for him to upgrade If he wants to play AAA.

 

One actual generation leap ahead (ps3 - ps4) and my i7 2700k (4 cores/8 threads) is still able to take on new AAA titles granted still bottlenecked but it does it really well (and still haven't overclocked).

 

Atm i5 9600k and i9 9900k are inseperable for gaming as always the case with i5 on release.

 

This is understandable as the six good cores in the i5 are same as six cores in jaguar platforms (apu or not).

Look at Blade Shadow as well - similar specs as a console 8 Xeon cores 12gb ram.

 

i5 was and is the way to get into current high end gaming and, back when i7 had hyperthreading, i7 was the way of staying adequately futureproofed from gaming perspective.

 

This all comes down to an assumption. To me sli or nvlink/crossfire are a way of emulating newer graphics cards that haven't been released yet (may be especially true way Navi is looking). 

 

Can someone please do a test between i5 9600k and i9 9900k comparing their performance on single cards versus sli/nvlink/crossfire. Hopefully this will put more contrast between the i5 9600k and the i9 9900k.

 

Because at £500 the i9 is arguably not worth buying if i5s keep coming out at half that price. But I am so so impressed at how the hyperthreaded i7 2700k is doing 6/7 years later and still not having to replace my mobo/ram is a treat.

 

From futureproof gaming perspective I would love to see some arguments pro the i9 9900k.

 

The way I see it 5th gen (just around the corner) is going to look something like

16 cores/threads 32 gb ram and 16/20gb gpu (+higher clocks). 

 

- That ram and cpu are currently accessible. Looking at the new 4k hdr 144hz monitors however GPUs clearly still have a long way to go. 

 

Sorry for the paragraphs but thanks for looking. My theory is that cpu is a better £500 investment than £1000 gpu. Watch rtx 2080 ti depreciate by 50% whilst 9900k holds 80% of its value.

 

Cheers Cansadoyguay

Monitor should last you 10 years

CPU 5+ years

GPU 2-5 years

 

 

Thats what I usually aim for when buying

My friend ages ago bought a 2500k when it was the don daddy of chips (and still is a bit) with a heck of bottleneck it can still scrape modern games if you throw a high end gpu in there: That was four cores. It is now clearly time for him to upgrade If he wants to play AAA.

 

One actual generation leap ahead (ps3 - ps4) and my i7 2700k (4 cores/8 threads) is still able to take on new AAA titles granted still bottlenecked but it does it really well (and still haven't overclocked).

 

Atm i5 9600k and i9 9900k are inseperable for gaming as always the case with i5 on release.

 

This is understandable as the six good cores in the i5 are same as six cores in jaguar platforms (apu or not).

Look at Blade Shadow as well - similar specs as a console 8 Xeon cores 12gb ram.

 

i5 was and is the way to get into current high end gaming and, back when i7 had hyperthreading, i7 was the way of staying adequately futureproofed from gaming perspective.

 

This all comes down to an assumption. To me sli or nvlink/crossfire are a way of emulating newer graphics cards that haven't been released yet (may be especially true way Navi is looking). 

 

Can someone please do a test between i5 9600k and i9 9900k comparing their performance on single cards versus sli/nvlink/crossfire. Hopefully this will put more contrast between the i5 9600k and the i9 9900k.

 

Because at £500 the i9 is arguably not worth buying if i5s keep coming out at half that price. But I am so so impressed at how the hyperthreaded i7 2700k is doing 6/7 years later and still not having to replace my mobo/ram is a treat.

 

From futureproof gaming perspective I would love to see some arguments pro the i9 9900k.

 

The way I see it 5th gen (just around the corner) is going to look something like

16 cores/threads 32 gb ram and 16/20gb gpu (+higher clocks). 

 

- That ram and cpu are currently accessible. Looking at the new 4k hdr 144hz monitors however GPUs clearly still have a long way to go. 

 

Sorry for the paragraphs but thanks for looking. My theory is that cpu is a better £500 investment than £1000 gpu. Watch rtx 2080 ti depreciate by 50% whilst 9900k holds 80% of its value.

 

Cheers Cansadoyguay

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5 minutes ago, Cansadoyguay said:

My friend ages ago bought a 2500k when it was the don daddy of chips (and still is a bit) with a heck of bottleneck it can still scrape modern games if you throw a high end gpu in there: That was four cores. It is now clearly time for him to upgrade If he wants to play AAA.

 

One actual generation leap ahead (ps3 - ps4) and my i7 2700k (4 cores/8 threads) is still able to take on new AAA titles granted still bottlenecked but it does it really well (and still haven't overclocked).

 

Atm i5 9600k and i9 9900k are inseperable for gaming as always the case with i5 on release.

 

This is understandable as the six good cores in the i5 are same as six cores in jaguar platforms (apu or not).

Look at Blade Shadow as well - similar specs as a console 8 Xeon cores 12gb ram.

 

i5 was and is the way to get into current high end gaming and, back when i7 had hyperthreading, i7 was the way of staying adequately futureproofed from gaming perspective.

 

This all comes down to an assumption. To me sli or nvlink/crossfire are a way of emulating newer graphics cards that haven't been released yet (may be especially true way Navi is looking). 

 

Can someone please do a test between i5 9600k and i9 9900k comparing their performance on single cards versus sli/nvlink/crossfire. Hopefully this will put more contrast between the i5 9600k and the i9 9900k.

 

Because at £500 the i9 is arguably not worth buying if i5s keep coming out at half that price. But I am so so impressed at how the hyperthreaded i7 2700k is doing 6/7 years later and still not having to replace my mobo/ram is a treat.

 

From futureproof gaming perspective I would love to see some arguments pro the i9 9900k.

 

The way I see it 5th gen (just around the corner) is going to look something like

16 cores/threads 32 gb ram and 16/20gb gpu (+higher clocks). 

 

- That ram and cpu are currently accessible. Looking at the new 4k hdr 144hz monitors however GPUs clearly still have a long way to go. 

 

Sorry for the paragraphs but thanks for looking. My theory is that cpu is a better £500 investment than £1000 gpu. Watch rtx 2080 ti depreciate by 50% whilst 9900k holds 80% of its value.

 

Cheers Cansadoyguay

Monitor should last you 10 years

CPU 5+ years

GPU 2-5 years

 

 

Thats what I usually aim for when buying

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12 minutes ago, Cansadoyguay said:

Sorry for the paragraphs but thanks for looking. My theory is that cpu is a better £500 investment than £1000 gpu. Watch rtx 2080 ti depreciate by 50% whilst 9900k holds 80% of its value.

That won't happen.

Take a look at the 6700K or 7700K, they sell for 70% of their original MSRP already so they've lost at least 30% of their value in just a year or two. Every time a new CPU comes out the old stuff drops in value. The more new CPUs that come out the more the old stuff tends to drop in value. The exact amount might vary but I see the 9900K going for $300 or less in a few years.

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1 minute ago, Lurick said:

That won't happen.

Take a look at the 6700K or 7700K, they sell for 70% of their original MSRP already so they've lost at least 30% of their value in just a year or two. Every time a new CPU comes out the old stuff drops in value. The more new CPUs that come out the more the old stuff tends to drop in value. The exact amount might vary but I see the 9900K going for $300 or less in a few years.

Ah but those chips kept the same 4 core/8 thread count. To get 16 cores/threads atm (what I deem to be 5th gen) one would need to purchase the i9 9900k. Agreed 80% is exaggeration on my part. 

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The i7 2700k was first avenue into 8 threads and that still serves. I see i9 9900k as the new i7 2700k with its 16 threads. 

 

Edit: best plan of action seems get i5 9th gen and Z390 mobo then sell i5 and get i9 when price comes down. Get 4/5+ years out of the i9 (maybe 2nd hand), upgrade gpu as and when. Ddr3 to ddr4 was nothing so not fussed waiting for ddr5. 

 

Thanks for comments, understandably no one is interested in doing nvlink benchmarks for moi so case closed!

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