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Intel wants to challenge Nvidia GeForce and AMD Radeon with new Xe discrete GPU product line

Intel is planning to enter the GPU market with it's planned Intel Xe product line in 2020. While it seems like they're laser focused on datacenter graphics, they do mention an enthusiast tier likely meaning they're working on gaming GPUs as well. 

 

This could mean the start of some healthy competition between three graphics card makers and end up ultimately driving down costs for everyone. 

 

I hope they use freesync though, Nvidia needs to be knocked off it's proprietary high horse..

 

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/250576/intel-xe-kicks-the-door-open-to-challenge-the-geforce-radeon-duopoly

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1 minute ago, Tunasuit said:

Intel is planning to enter the GPU market with it's planned Intel Xe product line in 2020. While it seems like they're laser focused on datacenter graphics, they do mention an enthusiast tier likely meaning they're working on gaming GPUs as well. 

 

This could mean the start of some healthy competition between three graphics card makers and end up ultimately driving down costs for everyone. 

 

I hope they use freesync though, Nvidia needs to be knocked off it's proprietary high horse..

 

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/250576/intel-xe-kicks-the-door-open-to-challenge-the-geforce-radeon-duopoly

Why would Intel develop a GPU series just to use AMD Freesync, that would seem counter-productive.

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3 minutes ago, ThePD said:

Why would Intel develop a GPU series just to use AMD Freesync, that would seem counter-productive.

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4 minutes ago, Tunasuit said:

I hope they use freesync though, Nvidia needs to be knocked off it's proprietary high horse..

 

2 minutes ago, ThePD said:

Why would Intel develop a GPU series just to use AMD Freesync, that would seem counter-productive.

Intel's iGPUs already support VESA adaptive sync, which is basically non-branded freesync. It's the same for almost all purposes and cross support is almost universal.

 

Either way, it's way too early to care. We'll see in a year.

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2 minutes ago, ThePD said:

Why would Intel develop a GPU series just to use AMD Freesync, that would seem counter-productive.

Because Freesync is free, open source and easy to implement. There's no good reason not to. Nvidia is just milking people for money. 

 

Hopefully Intel brings some much-needed competition to the GPU space, while not impacting Radeon too much. 

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4 minutes ago, ThePD said:

Why would Intel develop a GPU series just to use AMD Freesync, that would seem counter-productive.

Why not? Its open source software thats widely used and would allow more persons or entities to easily transfer over to intels offerings. It makes sense

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As long as its not like its previous GPU release, things could get interesting.  But past practices typically dictates future results so Im not holding my breathe.

 

And for those willing to take the plunge come release date, bravo for you.  I wont be one of those however. 

 

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Please Intel do it properly... Like going full out on GPU's is nice, but AMD and Nvidia have YEARS of experience in creating proper drivers for it and as history teaches us, if the drivers are crap it doesn't matter how good the GPU is.

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I mean sure, they could do that.. but Intel is known to having tons of Intel exclusive software for managing hardware. I just don't see them actively doing this.

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This is rather old news I feel. Intel has been saying they planned to bring out Discrete graphics for probably 6+ months now.

 

I mean I feel this is a good move for Intel and also beneficial for us consumers, but I am worried that the pricing war we would love won't happen. Intel likes to sell high prices items and so does Nvidia. Some of this is because AMD just isn't competitive with Nvidia atm, so hopefully Intel being close would bring prices more in check on both sides.

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13 minutes ago, ThePD said:

Why would Intel develop a GPU series just to use AMD Freesync, that would seem counter-productive.

Because they said their integrated graphics would use freesynce

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7 minutes ago, TheUzu said:

Raja Koduri works fast if he has an actual budget it seems.

Intel already had a "GPU" Linus covered from years ago. They also have been making GPUs for a pretty long time now

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18 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Because they said their integrated graphics would use freesynce

Thanks for clarifying.

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this is old news even though the article is new and more details but there were many reports of intel using adaptive sync for long ass time

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I'll be interested to see what Intel has to bring to the table. Might make AMD put their GPUs into high gear and perhaps make Nvidia reprice their GPUs to something more competitive.

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If Intel releases a GPU, it'd better not rely on system RAM the way all their previous dGPU did.

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6 minutes ago, poochyena said:

Feels like a lot of people are acting like Intel has no experience making GPUs.

More to the point: they have no experience creating a valid enthusiast-level GPU.  Something gamers would be happy to use in place of Team Green or Team Red's discrete offerings.

 

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Those are going to be some very price GPUs for sure.

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Pedantic me: Did anywhere in Intel's presentation say it was using FreeSync? Because I'm pretty sure they said they were supporting VESA adaptive sync.

 

5 hours ago, jasonvp said:

More to the point: they have no experience creating a valid enthusiast-level GPU.  Something gamers would be happy to use in place of Team Green or Team Red's discrete offerings.

I'd argue Xeon Phi is close enough to a GPU that they have experience with one.

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Xe? Damnit intel...why are you so good at making secrecy codenames but everything is so so bad...

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1 hour ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'd argue Xeon Phi is close enough to a GPU that they have experience with one.

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Something gamers would be happy to use in place of Team Green or Team Red's discrete offerings

The Xeon Phi isn't "close enough".  Not even remotely.

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Just now, jasonvp said:

Please read again:

 

The Xeon Phi isn't "close enough".  Not even remotely.

What, because it doesn't run games or use the same API?

 

They could "easily" (oversimplifying it) take a Xeon Phi and have it do graphics (which technically its prototype Larabee did do). The thing is a high performance SIMD compute system. That's all you really need to make a modern GPU.

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