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Vega 56 vs 2070 - price to performance vs future proofing

Zippokovich
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Hey guys, I'm a first time poster.

 

I have a hybrid workstation/gaming rig which I built at the start of the year. I used an old 1060 from a previous rig at the time and spent my money on the CPU and other components, but it's about time to upgrade the GPU and I would like to go to a high refresh rate adaptive sync set up. I've narrowed it down to either an Asus Vega 56 (£360) paired with an Element Gaming freesync display (£230) or an MSI 2070 (£460) with a gsync display of some sort (£450-500). 

 

Given I don't have as much time to game as I'd like, and the price to performance, I would rather go with the cheaper pairing but I've not used an AMD card in over a decade and I'm worried that when I come to upgrade in a few years that they won't be a viable option anymore. Given how ahead Nvidia tend to be it's likely i will want another one at some point and it would be a shame to have to drop the adaptive sync at that point. Do you guys think the large price bump is worth the monitor future proofing?

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Well the V56 is often fighting with the GTX 1070 and GTX 1070 Ti performance wise while the RTX 2070 is an overclocked GTX 1080.

 

So performance is on the RTX 2070 side, 100 pounds is not an absurd amount of money personally speaking, issues only rises if you really Need to have adaptive sync, in this case Freesync will be obviously a lot cheaper solution.

 

However if you pick something like a LG 29UM68-P which is an amazing 2560x1080p80hz monitor with a RTX 2070 you'll have all your games running at the 80fps needed to render adaptive sync quite pointless.

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12 minutes ago, Velcade said:

Can you live your life without ray tracing?

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-56/4029vs3938

I can! It's not a factor for me. The 2070 looks like a better deal given how much faster it is - but that advantage goes away when a gsync display costs as much as the card!

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Well the V56 is often fighting with the GTX 1070 and GTX 1070 Ti performance wise while the RTX 2070 is an overclocked GTX 1080.

 

So performance is on the RTX 2070 side, 100 pounds is not an absurd amount of money personally speaking, issues only rises if you really Need to have adaptive sync, in this case Freesync will be obviously a lot cheaper solution.

 

However if you pick something like a LG 29UM68-P which is an amazing 2560x1080p80hz monitor with a RTX 2070 you'll have all your games running at the 80fps needed to render adaptive sync quite pointless.

I could consider dropping the sync requirement, but I'd like to move to 1440 and 100hz+ at least. I guess put it this way; if I got a 2070 would it be worth an extra £200+ to also get gsync monitor or would a cheaper 1440p 144hz non-gsync monitor be almost as good an experience?

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4 minutes ago, Zippokovich said:

I can! It's not a factor for me. The 2070 looks like a better deal given how much faster it is - but that advantage goes away when a gsync display costs as much as the card!

The 2070 is definitely the better performer no question.  You might be able to get away with a non G-Sync monitor playing on high graphics with a 2070. As long as you're pushing 144 frames frame sync is a non issue.

"And I'll be damned if I let myself trip from a lesser man's ledge"

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Well Honestly I see the Vega 56 as AMD's top end / no compromise 1080p solution, if you want to push 100fps on 1440p with one while doable that means adjusting the settings quite a bit, like a medium/high here and there, no all ultras for sure.

 

So if you want to get closer to maxing out settings you'll be forced to afford the 2070.

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I mean, if you are thinking about "future proofing" then the RTX cards have tech in them that future games will most likely begin to utilize more and more...so there is that.  If you want the best price to performance ratio, I think the Vega 56 is the answer.  Asus Strix or Sapphire NItro+ (if you can find it on sale)

 

Personally, I'd wait until after CES and see what AMD announces about Navi and their future GPU lineup.  But if you NEED a card now, I'd go Vega. 

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