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new graphics card for old X58 system

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Hello folks,

almost 10 years ago I built my still working PC. I upgraded it slightly then and now, mostly from spareparts which were gifted to me in exchange for knowledge or else.

Right now with new games in pipeline and need for a new screen I'm looking forward to upgrade to a RX 580 or 590.

Unfortunately I'm a little afraid my old machine has a bottleneck somewhere in it's bones, as it's 10 years old and A LOT of new technologie has been developed since then.

 

Are these fears justified or am I good to go with such "low end" graphics cards?

 

Thanks in advance.

Specs 02/2009:
MB: Gigabyte EX58-DS4

CPU: Intel Core i7-920 (4x2,66GHz HT @ 3,2 GHz)

RAM: 6 GB Kingston Value 3x2GB

GPU: Gainward Radeon HD 4870 GS 1GB

PSU: Enermax 80+ 525W

HDD1: WD Velociraptor 74GB 10k (slow and loud piece of junk, got replaced by my first 120 SSD just a little over a year later)

 

Specs 12/2018:

MB: Gigabyte EX58-DS4

CPU: Intel Xeon X5650 (6x2,66GHz HT @ 3,2 GHz) (shot at ebay for 30)

RAM: 24 GB Kingston Value 6x4GB (gift)

GPU: Sapphire GeForce GTX 670 2GB (PT 110%/GPU +100MHz/Memory +50MHz) (gift)

PSU: Enermax 80+ 525W

SSD1: Crucial MX100 512GB

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if you are fine with buying used get something like a Geforce GTX 780Ti

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-580/2165vs3923

 

it's as fast or faster than the RX580, for a usually much lower price.

the only thing is you'll only have 3gb of vram. it's going to depend on the games you play wether that will be a problem or not. 

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MacBook Pro 13" Early 2015 | i5 5257U | Intel Iris 6100 | 8GB Ram | 120GB SSD | macOS Monterey

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Thanks for your really fast answer!

As you might read I'm totally fine with buying used.

On the other hand apart from the VRAM the RX 580 has FreeSync, which might come in handy with the new screen!? But thanks again for the suggestion.

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What can you get the clock speed to on that bad boy? One good CPU cooler later and you could throw a GTX 1060 6gb or even 1070 in there to good effect (despite the occasional bottleneck in more modern titles)

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

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Umm, Sapphire makes  AMD cards only. so there's no 'Sapphire GTX 670', so are you looking at a GTX 670 or an RX 580? Or, do you mean that you have thee GTX670 in your system now? What kind of games do you play and at what resolution?

 

In any case, yours would CPU limited at 1080P, I suspect games would still be playable, but you won't be netting high framerates, playable framerates should be achievable.  An RX570/580 or GTX1060 would be good fit, whichever is cheaper (unless you're thinking of  getting a Freesync monitor, then obviously AMD). I have a 2600K coupled with a GTX1080 and it's doing a damn nice job at gaming, at 4K where GPU's more the bottleneck. My only concern would be your PSU, though a good 525W PSU, it's almost ten years old now....

Rig 1: AMD AM4 R9 3900X (12C/24T) + Tt Water 3.0 ARGB 360 AIO | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme | 16GB Patriot Viper RGB 3600CL17 | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6900 XT | 256GB Sabrent Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 (OS) | 4TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD + 2TB 860 QVO SSD + 2x 1TB 850 EVO + 6TB WD Black HDD | CoolerMaster H500M | Corsair HX1000 Platinum | Ducky Shine 4 69 Fire + Logitech G703 | iFi Micro iDSD Black Label | LG SL8YG | C49HG90DME 49" 32:9 144Hz Freesync 2 | Omnidesk Pro 2020 48" | 64bit Win10 Pro

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HTPC Rig: Intel i7 4770K (4C/8T) | MSI Z87 G45 Gaming | 16GB RipJawsZ 1600mhz | Leadtek GTX 1080 Hurricane OC | Fostex HPA4 | Philips B97/98 | Tt View 31 | Corsair HX-1050 | Logitech G613 + G603 | Panasonic 65" UHD TV | 64bit Win10 Pro

 

 

 

 

 

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Get a 6 core Xeon for CHEAP and OC it to 4ghz and put a gtx 1080 in it. X58 is still very potent and games good. I get 70-100fps in BF5.

Black Knight-

Ryzen 3600X, MSI B450-A Pro, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz, Gigabyte RX 5700,

Seasonic Focus GM 750, Samsung EVO 860 EVO SSD M.2, Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe, Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon

 

Daughter's Rig;

Dell Optiplex 3010, Xeon E3 1270 V2, 16GB Patriot Viper 1600Mhz , Silicon Power A55 512GB SSD, Sapphire Pulse RX 570, Corsair CX430

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8 hours ago, GamerDude said:

Umm, Sapphire makes  AMD cards only. so there's no 'Sapphire GTX 670', so are you looking at a GTX 670 or an RX 580? Or, do you mean that you have thee GTX670 in your system now? What kind of games do you play and at what resolution?

 

In any case, yours would CPU limited at 1080P, I suspect games would still be playable, but you won't be netting high framerates, playable framerates should be achievable.  An RX570/580 or GTX1060 would be good fit, whichever is cheaper (unless you're thinking of  getting a Freesync monitor, then obviously AMD). I have a 2600K coupled with a GTX1080 and it's doing a damn nice job at gaming, at 4K where GPU's more the bottleneck. My only concern would be your PSU, though a good 525W PSU, it's almost ten years old now....

yes, the GTX 670 is in the system right now.

See, this is the point. I don't understand why the CPU might be the bottleneck with as many cores, threads and Hertz as a usual mid-/toprange CPU.
I'd understand, that theres some limitation because of PCIe 2.0 vs newer versions, but the CPU?

 

I play mostly racing games, for now in 1080p, but I thought about going up to 1440p with a new screen.

2 hours ago, asand1 said:

Get a 6 core Xeon for CHEAP and OC it to 4ghz and put a gtx 1080 in it. X58 is still very potent and games good. I get 70-100fps in BF5.

1080 is a little to expensive for my taste and gaming behaviour ;) Thanks. Also as you might have red I already have a 6-core XEON in there.

 

Thanks for your answers! :)

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Ok, I was looking at your 2009 specs, not sure why you included them? At any rate, you can put in any card you like and not worry about it being wasted.

Black Knight-

Ryzen 3600X, MSI B450-A Pro, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz, Gigabyte RX 5700,

Seasonic Focus GM 750, Samsung EVO 860 EVO SSD M.2, Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 1TB PCIe NVMe, Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon

 

Daughter's Rig;

Dell Optiplex 3010, Xeon E3 1270 V2, 16GB Patriot Viper 1600Mhz , Silicon Power A55 512GB SSD, Sapphire Pulse RX 570, Corsair CX430

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