budget CPU that won't bottleneck a GTX 970?

[PlayboiCarti]

hi I have a AMD A10 7890K but during games my CPU is at 100% load and my gpu [GTX 1050 2GB] is only doing like 20-30% load maybe 60% MAX, but I want to upgrade to a GTX 970 but I know if my current CPU bottlenecks a 1050 I know it will really bottleneck a 970, but I aslo have 16GB of DDR3 RAM which I don't want to swap up to DDR4 just for the sake of a new cpu and motherboard, so I was wondering if there are any very good, fast yet budget CPU'S that won't get bottlenecked by a GTX 970 and will still be able to hold up in AAA titles like GTA V etc. and that will go on a board that still supports DDR3 RAM I don't mind wether it's intel or AMD just send in the links [preferably from CEX] because I trust them especially when it comes to 2nd hand things etc. but I live in the UK so can the links be for the UK CEX please. 

thanks 

[r2724r16]

Get a used i7 2600, 2700, 4770, or 4790 and a motherboard with a chipset that supports the CPU you buy. These CPUs all support DDR3 RAM and won't bottleneck a GTX 970.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

3 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Get a used i7 2600, 2700, 4770, or 4790 and a motherboard with a chipset that supports the CPU you buy. These CPUs all support DDR3 RAM and won't bottleneck a GTX 970.

Or equivalent Xeons, or X58, or X79 xeons

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, r2724r16 said:

Get a used i7 2600, 2700, 4770, or 4790 and a motherboard with a chipset that supports the CPU you buy. These CPUs all support DDR3 RAM and won't bottleneck a GTX 970.

and of course the x58 xeons if you can find a good board for it

[Jurrunio]

unlocked 4th gen i7 is the way if you consider their price reasonable. Alternatives will be the Asrock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K4/D3 board with 6th gen i7 (even locked ones), just get the non-K OC BIOS and you're good for years.

 

If these aren't cheap enough then just get a LGA 1150 board and an 8 thread Xeon E3 v3

[PlayboiCarti]

but don't only 2nd and 3rd gen i7's support DDR3? not 4th gen?

 

[r2724r16]

Just now, PlayboiCarti said:

but don't only 2nd and 3rd gen i7's support DDR3? not 4th gen?

4th gen Haswell Intel CPUs support DDR3.

[PlayboiCarti]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

and of course the x58 xeons if you can find a good board for it

thanks so much for the speedy reply, also are these boards for the CPU'S available in micro atx size?

 

[PlayboiCarti]

and uhhh will RGB coolers be available for these boards? 

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, PlayboiCarti said:

and uhhh will RGB coolers be available for these boards? 

Most coolers are "universal", especially modern ones. Though do be sure to make sure it actually supports the socket your board is. Chances are, even if the cooler doesn't come with a mounting bracket for the socket, it may have a separate one available.

[PlayboiCarti]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Most coolers are "universal", especially modern ones. Though do be sure to make sure it actually supports the socket your board is. Chances are, even if the cooler doesn't come with a mounting bracket for the socket, it may have a separate one available.

okay thanks, and are all the cpu's listed by people on here better than my current AMD A10 7890K?

 

[LukeSavenije]

7 minutes ago, PlayboiCarti said:

thanks so much for the speedy reply, also are these boards for the CPU'S available in micro atx size?

 

not sure, we're talking enthousiast/workstation platform here, so maybe.

 

1 minute ago, PlayboiCarti said:

okay thanks, and are all the cpu's listed by people on here better than my current AMD A10 7890K?

 

much better. like MUCH better

[PlayboiCarti]

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=scpuinti73820&categoryName=intel-processors&superCatName=computing&title=intel-core-i7-3820-(3.6ghz)-lga2011

Is this CPU good enough for a GTX 970 without ANY bottleneck at all?

 

[PlayboiCarti]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

not sure, we're talking enthousiast/workstation platform here, so maybe.

 

much better. like MUCH better

ahahah that's nice to know thanks :]

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, PlayboiCarti said:

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail?id=scpuinti73820&categoryName=intel-processors&superCatName=computing&title=intel-core-i7-3820-(3.6ghz)-lga2011

Is this CPU good enough for a GTX 970 without ANY bottleneck at all?

 

would choose the 4770k or 4790 above it. you'll also need a lga2011 board for it. those aren't that cheap (as far as I know at least, prove me wrong when I am)

[PlayboiCarti]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

would choose the 4770k or 4790 above it. you'll also need a lga2011 board for it. those aren't that cheap (as far as I know at least, prove me wrong when I am)

ahaha yeah I just looked and a LGA2011 board is like £110  haha i'm not willing to spend that much on a MOBO

[PlayboiCarti]

and uuuhhhhh ultra big issue all these motherboards seem to have a blue PCB   that's a major big issue it has to be black :[

 

[PlayboiCarti]

aaahh fuck thanks for your help guys but all these sockets are super hard to find and all have green PCB's I really need one that has a black PCB and easy to sought after and it has to be micro ATX to fit my case and all of that for such a old socket is hard to find!!

 

[PlayboiCarti]

5 minutes ago, campy said:

Actually looking into this, the x3440 is only slightly faster than that A10?

You shouldnt be seeing any bottleneck with that A10, i ran my 970 with that specific xeon for a year and never saw any bottlenecking occur in 1080p

mate read that and you'll see what I am experiencing.

[PlayboiCarti]

4 minutes ago, campy said:

You have other problems if you have an A10 at 50c on idle. Its max temp is 72c before it throttles hard, youre seeing cooling problems more than anything.

Its not a bad processor and its not going to bottleneck a 970 in 1080p, i dont know what some of those people are talking about with calling it bad. Like yeah, its an A10 APU, its a poor decision nowadays and definitely was a bad option back then but its not like the thing is complete trash.

 

Get a new cooler before you do anything, because if you can drop those temps down, it can actually operate the way it should, and you should see those issues go away.

Also the slow loading stuff in GTA V is actually more due to cache and whatever media the game is on. A 2tb WD Blue is a 5400rpm HDD, if its not on that SSD, thats why your textures are loading slowly.

I also just read further down you repasted the cooler and your temps dropped, i say get a new cooler anyway because i have a sneaking suspicion this is a prebuilt with that processor and youre probably running the stock oldschool wraith on it. Buy something cheap and effective, 212 Evo or Cryorig H7 if you have the vertical clearance for it.

 

A 970 will not be bottlenecked by your current processor.

wow this helps a lot I will buy a new cooler but it is a wraith max not the standard one it has proper copper heat pipes and everything so why is it struggling with cooling?? it's a big beefy cooler like those aftermarket ones but still does a crap job cooling.

[PlayboiCarti]

also I use a crappy sub brand PSU that's 250W and nvidia recommends 300W for the 1050 could this be a part of my cooling problem? like not enough power getting around the PC??

 

[PlayboiCarti]

9 minutes ago, campy said:

You have other problems if you have an A10 at 50c on idle. Its max temp is 72c before it throttles hard, youre seeing cooling problems more than anything.

Its not a bad processor and its not going to bottleneck a 970 in 1080p, i dont know what some of those people are talking about with calling it bad. Like yeah, its an A10 APU, its a poor decision nowadays and definitely was a bad option back then but its not like the thing is complete trash.

 

Get a new cooler before you do anything, because if you can drop those temps down, it can actually operate the way it should, and you should see those issues go away.

Also the slow loading stuff in GTA V is actually more due to cache and whatever media the game is on. A 2tb WD Blue is a 5400rpm HDD, if its not on that SSD, thats why your textures are loading slowly.

I also just read further down you repasted the cooler and your temps dropped, i say get a new cooler anyway because i have a sneaking suspicion this is a prebuilt with that processor and youre probably running the stock oldschool wraith on it. Buy something cheap and effective, 212 Evo or Cryorig H7 if you have the vertical clearance for it.

 

A 970 will not be bottlenecked by your current processor.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3388192/gtx-1050ti-bottleneck-a10-7890k-significantly.html 

also this is another thread with a guy that is having problems with his 7890k bottlenecking his GTX 1050 TI

[PlayboiCarti]

1 minute ago, campy said:

potentially a lack of airflow to begin with

also replace the psu before you add a 970, you can run a 1050 on a weak little psu like that, youre just really pushing the limit on what it can do since your A10 can draw up to around 120w peaked out already, your PSU can do the 1050 with it but its not ideal 

lack of power wouldnt cause heat problems

it's not lack of airflow I was getting 70c idle with no side panel...

 

[PlayboiCarti]

4 minutes ago, campy said:

potentially a lack of airflow to begin with

also replace the psu before you add a 970, you can run a 1050 on a weak little psu like that, youre just really pushing the limit on what it can do since your A10 can draw up to around 120w peaked out already, your PSU can do the 1050 with it but its not ideal

lack of power wouldnt cause heat problems

and also why does my CPU have like 60% usage with just CAM and Microsoft edge open?? I don't get it.

 

[PlayboiCarti]

Just now, campy said:

no side panel is a lack of airflow, front intake is just diffusing out, ideally you want in from the front and bottom and out through the back and top, no side panel != better cooling performance, if you have stagnant air that just sits in there, then it can be beneficial but that would be a very rare situation of "too many damn fans"

im willing to say you have something else going on thats affecting cpu usage that you cant see

i dont wanna shoot to "lol its a virus" but chances are, theres something going on with the PC thats using the CPU more than you'd want it to

windows 10 for example constantly did shit in the background that caused it to eat two of my cores on an i5 4570 and its the entire reason i moved to linux so i wouldnt have to deal with that anymore

I can prove there is nothing else going on right? task manager should tell me right?